2016 Postmortem

reddread

(6,896 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:52 AM Apr 2016

Is Obama that much better than Hillary?

Seems like the strongest support comes from the staunchest detractors in 2008.

Has she improved that much in the last 8 years?

Or does NAFTA just have a warmer afterglow?

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Is Obama that much better than Hillary? (Original Post) reddread Apr 2016 OP

Pres. Obama's 2nd term, free of the Clinton albatross, has been qualitatively better. delrem Apr 2016 #1

If Hillary were President would we have opened Downwinder Apr 2016 #2

Or anyone who's been paying half ass'd attention to this primary can see Sanders is full of shit and uponit7771 Apr 2016 #3

and then there's this: GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #5

Yes he is way better. Not a warmonger like her. Vattel Apr 2016 #4

Obama is that much better than Bernie. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #6

delrem

(9,688 posts)

1. Pres. Obama's 2nd term, free of the Clinton albatross, has been qualitatively better.

Reply to reddread (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:21 AM

Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton is much much more hawkish than Pres Obama (that's a "well, duh!" statement).

No question that a Hillary Clinton presidency will be a massive step backward, since as POTUS she'll have much more power than as SOS.

Take a gander at the MFers who've paid $200million into the Clinton private accounts, $2billion into their "Charitable Foundation", to buy into just that chance at hitting the jackpot. Remember: political influence is all the Clinton family has to sell. Nothing more, nothing less. This is the purest distilled graft. In fact, the numbers and interests and backroom dealings speak of corruption taken to a level rarely if ever seen before.

In comparison the Obama family is scandal free. In fact, as a model the Obama family is entirely uplifting.
More uplifting than the Kennedys, IMO.
Not so much the Clinton family. To say the least.

It's like day and night.

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)

2. If Hillary were President would we have opened

Reply to reddread (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:00 AM

Apr 2016

up relations with Cuba? Would she be welcome in Latin America?

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)

3. Or anyone who's been paying half ass'd attention to this primary can see Sanders is full of shit and

Reply to reddread (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:09 AM

Apr 2016

... the "we'll see" guy is in it for himself?

The consummate Obama bashing seems to from the least diverse group of people too... that's another tell tale for us.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)

5. and then there's this:

Reply to uponit7771 (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:40 AM

Apr 2016

How pathetic it is that Hillary's supporters can't find anything about HER that they want to talk about and she herself tries to hang her failures on Obama.

Vattel

(9,289 posts)

4. Yes he is way better. Not a warmonger like her.

Reply to reddread (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:13 AM

Apr 2016

LexVegas

(6,063 posts)

6. Obama is that much better than Bernie. nt

Reply to reddread (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:01 AM

Apr 2016

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