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Renew Deal

(81,860 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:58 AM Apr 2016

The choice for Democrats: Incremental Change vs Stagnation

Even Hillary's opponents suggest that Hillary offers "incremental change." She can move the gears of government.

Bernie offers a dream with no plan to make it come true. In the choice between progress and stagnation, Democrats are better served with achievable progress.

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The choice for Democrats: Incremental Change vs Stagnation (Original Post) Renew Deal Apr 2016 OP
well I guess that settles it navarth Apr 2016 #1
carry on then creon Apr 2016 #6
not only is a lack of a plan an issue - if he had a plan, he has no support to move his DrDan Apr 2016 #2
Progressive Change Domestically & Peace Abroad vs Stagnation Domestically & Hostile Intervention Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #3
This an election creon Apr 2016 #9
There will be no "political revolution" creon Apr 2016 #4
I don't suggest that hereforthevoting Apr 2016 #5
Wrong, if Sanders wins, he results, ultimately, in massive change. joshcryer Apr 2016 #7
We've had 8 years since the Bush fiasco griffi94 Apr 2016 #8

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
2. not only is a lack of a plan an issue - if he had a plan, he has no support to move his
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:01 AM
Apr 2016

initiatives forward. And his refusal to assist down-ticket candidates guarantees a continued lack of support.

Look at how many Senate colleagues have endorsed him - 1 (I think that is still accurate - not looking it up)

creon

(1,183 posts)
4. There will be no "political revolution"
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:05 AM
Apr 2016

This is not a revolutionary situation.

None of the factors showing that it is exist.

It is a choice between incremental change vs stagnation.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
7. Wrong, if Sanders wins, he results, ultimately, in massive change.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:06 AM
Apr 2016

That presumes he wins. He's not winning, I'm not deluded, but I argue that if he won at the rates he needed to win, there would be a significant number switching the Senate and Congress. For better or worse, we're looking like another safe, establishment nominee. And Sanders, because he's a man of good character, will support her.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
8. We've had 8 years since the Bush fiasco
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:06 AM
Apr 2016

Things have gotten better. It's been slow but it's been steady.
President Obama has had to compromise and just keep pushing the rock.

Hillary will continue to make steady if slow prgress.
Bernie will be the same idealistic all or nothing and end up with nothing.

The perpetually disgruntled are always great about pointing out what they hate.

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