2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf you were a Republican, which republican politician would you like to be the nominee?
Pick one.
From the vast field of republican politicians available to you, pick somebody, anybody.
No matter how obscure or little-known.
But he/she must be a Republican and he/she must be moderate enough to siphon at least some democratic voters in the general election.
dchill
(38,498 posts)They might actually do it!
corkhead
(6,119 posts)casperthegm
(643 posts)Well played. Well played...
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)JudyM
(29,250 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)It is so cool, the way it points out that people with a lack of understanding of the issues rely on physical attacks with no substance. I would do one of those for Hillary too since it is so easy to create strawman attacks, but I actually know the issues and don't want to be called sexist.
This that said I agree with the others, Hillary is the best republican she is more liberal on most all of her views than trump.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)That's amazing, Kreskin.
Let's get to your other point and play a game: You choose an issue important to you in this election and state exactly why Sanders's position on that issue causes you to support him. I'll likewise explain why I support my candidate on that issue. Then, I'll choose an issue, and we'll do the same thing in reverse. That way, you can show everyone my lack of understanding of the issues.
Are you going to step up and put some substance behind your bullshit insult? If so, let's go. You first.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)They are very divisive and like your image ad hominem at best. I know why I am voting on Sanders, it has to do with every thing he states in his speeches and in his records on voting. My only area I am not completely on the same boat was his gun vote. I think he was correct about it not being something you can currently sue on, but until the courts rule we could never fully make that claim (and they are still allowing one of the law suits to go through). I have the same issue with Biden being a bit too pro gun for me as well. Hillary is no better, or rather was not better since she morphs to the current trend her voting record WILL change once she is on a national level. Hillary was my first lady in my home state where I grew up, she was on the board in Walmart. Walmart brought money to certain areas of Arkansas to elite people. We gained a bit because our family had direct ties with them. Our state did some things right, but so many things wrong. Whitewater involved one of the banks where I grew up. She claims she is not a natural politician, but she has been a politician depending on how she parses her words since she was in Arkansas (but don't blame her for anything bill did since that is sexist...but do give her any credit they can offer for that same time period). I was for same sex for a long time, well always...Bernie has been too. The fact I can remember some of the things she has said on the issue is not something it is easy for me to get over. I do not like that she is so late to the table, the fact she is pivoting in the primary, and her party is annoyed they have to since they will have to pivot to the left later. Any candidate that pivots is one that does not actually have a real opinion. It is a sign of weakness, and a sign that she will give so much away (she even parsed abortion). I do not like her view on fraking, we don't need to rush to get this fuel to a quick buck (since that is what it is for, quick low yield wells). But more than anything her role in Lybia with google uninstalling the region to mess with Iran? The amount of death she has caused, and the fact she voted for Iraq, I voted for Obama for the fact he did not do it. There is no excuse for that, she voted that way because her opinion is that of what she thinks the common person wants, and after 911 she read a pro-war message and she went for it.
But if you want a stupid image like that, you look as bad as these people...and I do not like these images.
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Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)You did get the point of the post right?
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Your post was rambling and boring and your pictures silly, but within my grasp.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)The idiom of pot and kettle refers to a person that calls out another for an issue they themselves have.
Here are some websites that can explain it better for you.
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/the-pot-calling-the-kettle-black
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pot_calling_the_kettle_black
http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2014/12/22/the_pot_calling_the_kettle_black_is_the_idiom_offensive_racist_or_fair_game.html (funny article)
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/287950.html
FSogol
(45,488 posts)EmperorHasNoClothes
(4,797 posts)Which isn't saying much...
peace13
(11,076 posts)He acts harmless but he has dismantled Ohio in a heartbeat!
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)He's managed to convince people he's a moderate and not some RW loon out to legislate vaginas.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)peace13
(11,076 posts)Acts normal and cuts deep behind closed doors. De funded Planned Parenthood. Took profits from all State Liquor sales and gave them to a private Corp which he founded and is on the board of. He is a thief and not truthful and has implemented the Koch legislations here one after another. You see he is quiet but he gets the dirty work done with a smile on his face. His first day in office he told the citizens, 'You are either on the bus with me, or under it.' Nice guy!
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)...Where the fuck did all the DECENT Republicans go?
peace13
(11,076 posts)corkhead
(6,119 posts)batshit crazy teahadists or they seized control of the Democratic party. It's a big tent you know, unless you are actually a democrat.
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Then again, I have no idea what his political views are
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)economic policy, and Charles Lindbergh for foreign policy?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)SheenaR
(2,052 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)NV Whino
(20,886 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)All the Repubs I know are either for Trump, which is not many, or else they are shaking their head and don't know what they are going to do. Some are planning to move out of country .... don't know how serious they are about it.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Haveadream
(1,630 posts)Olympia Snowe would have been
Susan Collins
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)I can't think of any living Republicans I'd vote for.
pampango
(24,692 posts)Someone who does not really have a future as a national candidate but may be able to "save" the party's name and image for 2020. A McCain or Romney redux? Or some other old guy who is 'respectable' in republican eyes.
If their convention devolves into picking someone other than Trump, the fracture will be hard to repair by election day. I doubt that any of their politicians who thinks they will have another presidential shot in the future will go for it now.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)Kasich is a sneak, Trump is a Nazi, Cruz is crazy, Ryan is horrible....should I go on? I don't like Romney, but he's not crazy.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Without Q, she's the best republican running.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)runaway hero
(835 posts)Because once he loses, no more will we hear that they need a "true conservative."
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Republican party would be very different today if he had been able to run. Always respected him. Had he been a candidate I think many independents would have voted for him.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)Because he is using his own money. I will not vote for anyone with a superpac. Ever. Jill doesn't have one, so I'm good. But to answer this question? I say Trump. Congress deserves to be a miserable as we are. Fawk em!
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Depaysement
(1,835 posts)are the dead ones.
Fiorella LaGuardia, Abraham Lincoln.
CompanyFirstSergeant
(1,558 posts)Lone_Wolf
(1,603 posts)mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)He is a narcissist and blowhard BUT his whole life is making deals. He has no actual ideology that anyone can identify and is always open to any suggestion that would make him look better. With him in the Oval Office there will be no wars, and probably a world wide pullback of US forces as being too expensive to maintain without money from our allies. The US/Mexico wall will never get built and you will probably see more guest workers coming in.
In other words, there is really no way to know how things will turn out. On the other hand, victims of rape or incest will not be required to carry an unwanted baby to term. Jesus will not sit at his right hand in the White House. And so on and so forth.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Mind you I have interviewed the man, in 2012. He is an old style Ike type
And yes, he is well obscure.
Bayard
(22,075 posts)But then, Teddy Roosevelt.
WhenTheLeveeBreaks
(55 posts)But the answers given seem to be "Given that you are a Democrat..."
I think the correct answer is Rubio.
If the GOP had simply calmed down and didn't throw a tantrum and made the obvious, rational decision, they would have chosen Rubio and truth is, this election may be over by now.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Yeah, I know, he's long dead and buried, but who among us would argue the fact that even though he's in the grave, he'd still be a better POTUS than any living Republican?
B Calm
(28,762 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)He's sort of inoffensive? Empty suit type. Can't imagine he could do THAT much damage.
Paul Ryan is horrible, but he's good-looking with a cute family.
As a Democrat, the Republican I would pick to run is Trump. The one we're guaranteed to beat! That must be why all the Repub establishment are losing their collective minds.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)At least he is sane
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Shrek
(3,980 posts)TheFarseer
(9,323 posts)Or are they all with Hillary on this issue?
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Yes, Hillary Clinton Is a Neocon
April 16, 2016
Exclusive: The argument over whether Hillary Clinton is a neocon may have been settled by her hawkish debate performance on Thursday, which followed her Israel-pandering speech before AIPAC, reports Robert Parry.
By Robert Parry
If there were any doubts that Hillary Clinton favors a neoconservative foreign policy, her performance at Thursdays debate should have laid them to rest. In every meaningful sense, she is a neocon and if she becomes President Americans should expect more global tensions and conflicts in pursuit of the neocons signature goal of regime change in countries that get in their way.
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btw..Bob Parry is as liberal as you get.
Retrograde
(10,137 posts)I'd have to say Pataki - he seems to come the closest to being a rational human.
Otherwise - I dunno. We don't have many Republicans in my neck of the woods. What scares me is that Lindsey Graham is starting to sound reasonable compared to most of the ones getting national coverage these days.
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)All the Republicans are bad on social policy. At least Paul gets foreign policy and civil liberties right. And he'd probably be less likely to get us involved in an unnecessary military entanglement than, not just any other Republican, but (I hate to say it) even Hillary.