2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhether you are for Clinton or Trump, if most of the people view your candidate unfavorably...
Then maybe consider the possibility that you are the one who is not seeing your candidate correctly.
hereforthevoting
(241 posts)That the time to hold your nose and vote for someone you don't love is in NOVEMBER and not one minute before!
creon
(1,183 posts)Basically, they are strangers to you.
You know next to nothing about them; and vice versa.
rock
(13,218 posts)The nice way of saying hated. I.e. misogyny.
creon
(1,183 posts)Hatred, frequently, has no reason worthy of the name.
rock
(13,218 posts)Lone_Wolf
(1,603 posts)How can you have have a misogynist like Trump being more disliked and yet say misogyny is the reason people dislike Hillary? If misogyny was really the reason, then someone like Trump would be doing better.
It makes no sense to blame her unfavorability on misogyny.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)continually, attacks that they do not throw toward men.... I mean wtf? Over hot sauce? Is going to tarnish her. The simple fact she comes up the most honest of ALL the candidates yet, Sanders and supporters can totally promote her "untrustworthiness" and gets away with it, says something.
Kinda like promoting Obama as the angry black man, though nothing further from the truth.
Bigotry gets in the way. Doesn't mean we kick women and blacks to the curb.
Lone_Wolf
(1,603 posts)They aren't asking just one group of people.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)and the right have done well coloring impression, with continual lies. If you really do not get how constant lies colors how a person is perceived then whatever.
They made a war hero Kerry, into a coward.
rock
(13,218 posts)"...someone like Trump would be doing better..."
Better than 1st place?
Bob41213
(491 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)Lone_Wolf's argument is still incoherent.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)I'm starting to think you Hillary supporters should come to my state of Colorado because I'm sure it do our economy good with how some things are legal here.
So it's Misogyny now that people hate Hillary? Is that the new excuse for her low favorability numbers?
You don't think it has anything to do with her being consistent on one thing; lying?
Because you know, everybody loves a liar, right? <3
rock
(13,218 posts)Only guys laugh at misogyny.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)stupid.
This is stupid.
creon
(1,183 posts)I do my own research, do my own thinking.
I take what other say seriously; unless and and until they show otherwise.
I do not follow a band; I do not follow the crowd.
If you have an argument to make -- make it.
I will, then, decide on the merits.
Your call.
Why should I agree with a bunch of people that listen to lies and don't even bother actually objectively researching them?
Just because more people are wrong doesn't make them right.
Google Hillary pre-2006 when everyone thought she was a 'liberal nut job'. Google Sanders pre-2014 before all the made-up crap about him (pro and anti) started appearing.
true
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)our vote? I think not.
Lone_Wolf
(1,603 posts)That's well before the election
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)Go look at 2008 when she ran against Obama http://www.people-press.org/2015/05/19/hillary-clinton-approval-timeline/
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Interesting concept
Check it out yourself and decide for yourself.
That is the best thing to do, imho.