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bigtree

(85,996 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:56 AM Apr 2016

Maybe it's not them. Maybe it's you...

Brian Fallon ?@brianefallon (Press secretary for @HillaryClinton for America)

Sanders' targets of late: POTUS, Planned Parenthood, Human Rights Campaign, the "South," the DNC...

Maybe it's not them. Maybe it's you...



Brian Fallon ?@brianefallon
Sanders, last month: "We'll win NY!"
Sanders, last wk: "We'll win NY!"
Sanders, on eve of NY: "Hey look at our bogus allegation abt the DNC"







Hannah Chanpong ?@hannahfc 2h2 hours ago
Hillary and Bill Clinton vote in the New York primary:
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bigtree

(85,996 posts)
8. this talking point attack on the NY election process is a sight to behold
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:17 AM
Apr 2016

... anything goes, because revolution.

This is less of a political movement, than a free-for-all. What the Sanders folks are really hoping for and petitioning for is a disruption of the NY election process; an election day lawsuit filed to allow even republicans to vote in the Democratic primary.

It's a clear picture emerging of what we've known all along about progressive movements. They share the desire of their politically polar opposites to disrupt the party processes rather than work within the party to effect changes. It's not as if the Sanders campaign just decided to run last week. They've had every opportunity to organize and register voters as their Democratic rival.

Now they're showing signs that they've been outplayed (and they DO play cutthroat politics like pros), and they're beginning to shed their folksy, birdy facade to lash out with politics as usual.

I blame his operatives, but I also blame Sanders for failing to manage his organization in a way which was cohesive, responsible, and accountable. That would be the burden of anyone proclaiming themselves a leader of a political revolution. Today, it more resembles a dissembling, flighty rabble than a credible, inclusive movement.

 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
11. "to disrupt the party processes rather than work within the party to effect changes" ON POINT!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:25 AM
Apr 2016

And this goes to the point that Clinton made in the debate, it's easier to loudly diagnose than to roll up one's sleeves and make change happen.

Bernie's career has been one of non-stop complaint, with no real big accomplishments to his name. Nothing like SCHIP, nothing like the Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, nothing like sanctions forcing Iran to negotiate over its nuclear program. NOTHING!

And the people behind him are just as bad, because their record of achievement is nearly as small as Bernie's.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
17. Children who have never been told "no"
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:30 AM
Apr 2016

and angry fringe types do not make a happy combination.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
10. Did he say that about you? Or are you an elected official that takes tons of industry money?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:22 AM
Apr 2016

If the answer to those is "No" then you're making stuff up.

BainsBane

(53,034 posts)
3. If Sanders had an actual concern about potential campaign financing illegalities
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:01 AM
Apr 2016

Why didn't he lodge a formal complaint with the FEC rather than send a letter to the DNC and issue a press release?
He didn't take the legal route available to pursue such complaints. That tells me this is a political stunt.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
5. His campaign becomes more and more unhinged.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:04 AM
Apr 2016

They'll tread into Alex Jones territory to explain why they're losing. I can't imagine how his campaign ends without a total conspiratorial meltdown.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
6. Spreading lies, exaggerations and snarky social-media drivel
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:05 AM
Apr 2016

Strange to see a professional, who is high up in a Presidential campaign--acting like a middle-schooler.

Brian Fallon, ladies and gentlemen...rocking the sub Tweet!



bigtree

(85,996 posts)
9. what a sad revolution
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:20 AM
Apr 2016

...little more left outside of projection and bitterness.

I'm glad that smiley can laugh.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
14. Who's bitter?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:43 AM
Apr 2016

I'm very proud of the Sander's campaign.

Brian Fallon, on the other hand--is an embarrassment. He needs to grow up.

 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
13. "Spreading lies, exaggerations and snarky social-media drivel" Yep, that's Sanders for you.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:28 AM
Apr 2016

Too bad we don't decide the Presidency based on Facebook polls. Then you guys might have stood a chance.

 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
7. This kind of fundraising will be litigated eventually, since it is a clear
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:09 AM
Apr 2016

evasion of campaign finance laws. IMO, it appears to be legal, but it will have to be decided in the courts before it is settled law.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
15. Human Rights Campaign and why I am a critic of them, this is from The Advocate:
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:23 AM
Apr 2016

5 Most Disappointing Things We Learned About HRC's 'White Men's Club'

A new internal diversity report reveals the Human Rights Campaign has a sexist work environment where only 'gay, white, male' employees advance into leadership positions.

“As a woman, I feel excluded every day,” says an employee of the Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest LGBT civil rights advocacy group and political lobbying organization, in an internal diversity report released Wednesday.

The report was compiled by The Pipeline Project, and commissioned by HRC through focus groups and surveys with employees of the company. The report revealed that the organizational structure of HRC perpetuates sexism, while leaders have failed to establish a “real push for diversity,” which has created a “homogenous” leadership culture that is “gay, white, male.”

BuzzFeed News legal editor Chris Geidner first broke the story, revealing "major diversity problems" within the organization. Geidner noted that the report included complaints from many staffers that the work environment at HRC is “extremely judgmental,” especially of women and female-identified people. The workers surveyed called their employer a “White Men’s Club” that only promotes the “good old boys.”
http://www.advocate.com/human-rights-campaign-hrc/2015/06/04/5-most-disappointing-things-we-learned-about-hrcs-white-mens-cl

White Men's Club. Not something I'm interesting in touting as excellent nor as representative of the LGBT community, but thanks for playing!

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