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Related: About this forumRachel Maddow Debunks Bernie Sanders’ Claim Of Clinton Campaign Finance Violations
Rachel Maddow Debunks Bernie Sanders’ Claim Of Clinton Campaign Finance ViolationsBy Jason Easley on Tue, Apr 19th, 2016 at 9:18 am
MSNBC's Rachel Maddow and Andrea Mitchell debunked the Sanders campaign's claim that Hillary Clinton and the DNC have violated campaign finance laws.
There is one point about the Sanders allegations that doesn’t add up. Bernie Sanders is the biggest champion for getting rid of Citizens United in the United States. If the Sanders campaign had any evidence that the DNC and the Hillary Clinton campaign violated campaign finance laws, why didn’t they file an FEC complaint?
An FEC complaint would create national headlines and shine a light on the dirty campaign finance system, but the Sanders campaign chose not to do that. The answer to the question of why they didn’t can be found in their carefully chosen language in the letter to the DNC. The Sanders campaign wrote about “concerns” and “apparent violations,” which indicated that they don’t have any hard evidence to back up their allegations.
Campaign finance experts are suggesting that the Sanders campaign is off base with these allegations, and the timing of the claims screams strategic move to try to swing the electorate on the eve of a critical must-win primary.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/19/rachel-maddow-debunks-bernie-sanders-claim-clinton-campaign-finance-violations.html
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Rachel Maddow Debunks Bernie Sanders’ Claim Of Clinton Campaign Finance Violations (Original Post)
workinclasszero
Apr 2016
OP
Rachel Interviewed Mrs. Greenspan who said she and her husband agree that Hillary's innocent.
berni_mccoy
Apr 2016
#1
Another baseless claim of sexism for a long-standing DU moniker for Andrea Mitchell
berni_mccoy
Apr 2016
#11
I suppose we'll just have to defer to Jeff the comic book store owner on these matters.
NuclearDem
Apr 2016
#9
Sanders signed up for the same program with the DNC. During the Kerry and Obama campaigns,
Trust Buster
Apr 2016
#7
Well, once you've been thrown under the Bro-Bus you might as well roll with it
Maru Kitteh
Apr 2016
#17
RM has been shilling for HRC all along' lots of things are legal but also bad, discriminatory, etc.
amborin
Apr 2016
#19
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)1. Rachel Interviewed Mrs. Greenspan who said she and her husband agree that Hillary's innocent.
Response to berni_mccoy (Reply #1)
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berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)11. Another baseless claim of sexism for a long-standing DU moniker for Andrea Mitchell
Why don't you google DU for Andrea Mitchell Greenspan... I'm sure you'll be enlightened.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)13. Yea, I know... you don't exist. n/t
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)2. Sanders is going to have more Pinnochios than delegates in no time.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)21. No doubt
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)3. Well if legal scholar Rachel Maddow says so
Bob41213
(491 posts)4. It wasn't just her. She also talked to friends of Hillary.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)15. Close friends being FEC and Politifact, plus a number of
election experts? Immediately before a critical election Sanders filed "allegations" but didn't offer one shred of proof to back them up. This is dirty politics, guys. You can still support Bernie, but he is not the man his supporters want to believe he is.
Btw, embrace truth, reject lies. That's what grownups do. The other's for fools.
While discussing the Sanders campaign’s allegation that Hillary Clinton and the DNC violated campaign finance laws, Mitchell said:
I’ve talked to as many experts as we could since this first evolved. PolitiFact says it’s mostly wrong. Larry Noble, who had been a general counsel at the FEC, and is an expert on this says that the allegation is not correct. They may be pushing the envelope, but that there really is no underlying corrupt nature to this relationship.
I talked to the DNC, and they say that this is a joint campaign victory fund that was also offered to Bernie Sanders. That the Sanders campaign, they claim, signed an agreement, but they never exercised it, so they never engaged.
I’ve talked to as many experts as we could since this first evolved. PolitiFact says it’s mostly wrong. Larry Noble, who had been a general counsel at the FEC, and is an expert on this says that the allegation is not correct. They may be pushing the envelope, but that there really is no underlying corrupt nature to this relationship.
I talked to the DNC, and they say that this is a joint campaign victory fund that was also offered to Bernie Sanders. That the Sanders campaign, they claim, signed an agreement, but they never exercised it, so they never engaged.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)9. I suppose we'll just have to defer to Jeff the comic book store owner on these matters.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)12. He owns a comic book store?
I like him even more now lol
mythology
(9,527 posts)23. As opposed to the Sanders campaign?
Sanders supporters have had no problem believing their claims unquestioningly.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)5. Yep. Legal...just like subprime loans, ARMs, gun shows. All legal.
Merryland
(1,134 posts)6. I'm so relieved! (not)
Rachel is one of the most brilliant women on earth, second only to Hillary herself.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)7. Sanders signed up for the same program with the DNC. During the Kerry and Obama campaigns,
Sanders was the recipient of this same program. The guy does not have an ounce of credibility in my mind. Shame on the DNC for not requiring that a candidate be a registered Democrat for five years.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)10. Good! I'm very pleased to read this. (Thanks for sharing it!)
I haven't seen the segment, but it's easy for me to imagine that it looked something like this:
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)14. Hill has more dirt than Dirt Mcgirt! More to come.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)16. Yet another fundraising/media attention lie from Sanders and team
He has become such a disappointment
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)17. Well, once you've been thrown under the Bro-Bus you might as well roll with it
right?
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)18. curious about the interns on this show
I am sure people work hard to be accepted as interns on this show and then they work hard to contribute to the show. Wonder if anyone left because they supported Bernie and found it difficult to work in such a pro clinton atmosphere. It would take a very strong person to give up such an assignment.
amborin
(16,631 posts)19. RM has been shilling for HRC all along' lots of things are legal but also bad, discriminatory, etc.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)20. And waves her hands a lot. n/t
Broward
(1,976 posts)22. Maddow is a Hillary shill. Nothing she says should be taken at face value.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)24. rachel debunks thanks for the morning laugh
Triana
(22,666 posts)25. Problem isn't 'whether they violated campaign finance laws'. Problem is the laws themselves.
Hillary takes full advantage of McCutcheon vs FEC (Citizens United II) - uses the legalized bribery system she claims she will later fight against.
She thus lacks integrity.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)26. K&R!
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)27. Wow! Maybe she should get a job in the legal field! That was fast! nt
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)28. Clinton's Cheerleader - Now there's a corporate puppet you can really rely on to tell the truth
