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Emergency Voter Suppression Lawsuit Filed In New York (Original Post) raindaddy Apr 2016 OP
this was supposed to be heard at 9 am - any updates? n/t Merryland Apr 2016 #1
Haven't heard anything.... raindaddy Apr 2016 #2
thanks - this is a very important lawsuit. Merryland Apr 2016 #4
All I've heard is that the Attorney General, who was supposed to show up winter is coming Apr 2016 #8
Oh, good grief ... GMAFB! NurseJackie Apr 2016 #3
Ironically there's just one Dem. candidate that benefits from a low voter turnout... raindaddy Apr 2016 #5
The Party's nominee will be selected by actual Party members. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #6
What's left of the Democratic party... raindaddy Apr 2016 #11
Looks like the best way to change the party is to JOIN the party and participate ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #12
That's the kinda the point... raindaddy Apr 2016 #15
People who take seriously the responsibility will register (or change) within the deadline ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #16
People who registered within the deadline have been told there's no record of their change... raindaddy Apr 2016 #17
They were probably mistaken. And based on the twitter call-to-action tweets ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #19
Actually, it is Bernie Sanders. NuclearDem Apr 2016 #7
Hearing has been rescheduled for 2pm. winter is coming Apr 2016 #9
look at that Robbins Apr 2016 #10
Are people really dim enough to think a judge can force a closed primary to become an open one? Tarc Apr 2016 #14
I can't differentiate one Sanders poutrage from the next, which lawsuit is this? Tarc Apr 2016 #13
How Third-Worldy we've become... AzDar Apr 2016 #18
and this is how organized they are...filings the day of voting. nt Sheepshank Apr 2016 #20

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
2. Haven't heard anything....
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:04 AM
Apr 2016

I'm glad this is being exposed and people are fighting voter suppression.. Have a friend who's wife was mysteriously missing from their local voting rolls and had to affidavit vote for Bernie.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
8. All I've heard is that the Attorney General, who was supposed to show up
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:58 AM
Apr 2016

to represent the state, hasn't, and that a summons to compel his appearance was requested.

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
5. Ironically there's just one Dem. candidate that benefits from a low voter turnout...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:20 AM
Apr 2016

And it ain't Bernie Sanders...

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
11. What's left of the Democratic party...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:42 PM
Apr 2016

After the thirty year exodus of progressives who have been marginalized by the neoliberal Democratic party establishment..

The once great FDR populist party once represented half of the US citizenry.. Now they've declined to barely representing a third...

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
12. Looks like the best way to change the party is to JOIN the party and participate ...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:46 PM
Apr 2016

... or not, and just snipe and gripe from the sidelines. Whatever you think works best.

Lessons learned. The hard way, but it's still a valuable lesson.

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
15. That's the kinda the point...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:54 PM
Apr 2016

What good doesn't it do to register from Ind. to Democrat if they won't count your vote?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
16. People who take seriously the responsibility will register (or change) within the deadline ...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:06 PM
Apr 2016

... as set out in the party rules. Voters who were truly engaged and paying attention would have known this.

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
17. People who registered within the deadline have been told there's no record of their change...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:24 PM
Apr 2016

in regestration...

If we were living in a country that still had any real investment in the Democratic process we wouldn't even be having this discussion...

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
19. They were probably mistaken. And based on the twitter call-to-action tweets ...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:45 PM
Apr 2016

... encouraging people lie about their registration status in order to create conflict, it's my estimation that the "no-record" accusations you mention are not very likely to be taken too seriously. Some democracy, huh?

In the end, it's the state party organization who decide who is, and who isn't eligible to participate. There's no constitutional guarantee that anyone must be permitted to participate in party activities. That's reserved for the General Election.

In fact, any state party organization could, if they wanted to, decide to award their delegates based solely on party big-wigs and verbal "aye/nay" votes from their a smoke-filled conference room.

It's pretty clear to me that what we have here are a bunch of enthusiastic (now) so-called "Independents" who've registered that way (for whatever reasons they may have) but who now would like to participate with the Democratic party... and in their anger and frustration, they are willing to say and do anything to make it happen.

While I understand their motivation, I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone who's not conscientious enough to register properly, within the deadlines, and keep their registration active by regularly voting. All these wild conspiracy theories about ONLY the "Bernie voters" being flipped are absolute rubbish. Those tactics only serve to make them appear even LESS engaged and LESS trustworthy, and ultimately isolating themselves, by their own actions, even further.

They're creating their own vicious cycle, then complaining about it. The procedures are already in place for anyone to join the party ... all they have to do is declare their party affiliation within the deadlines. No excuses. No conspiracy. Just do it like they're supposed to and all will be golden.

Good chatting with you. I'll read whatever follow-up comments you may have, but I think we've pretty much exhausted things here and have reached a stalemate.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
7. Actually, it is Bernie Sanders.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:28 AM
Apr 2016

He wins in low-turnout caucuses that are naturally inaccessible to a lot of people, but gets trounced by a million votes in Florida where the ballot is very accessible.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
10. look at that
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:04 PM
Apr 2016

hearing pushed over to 2pm.even if judge rules in favor of lawsuit clinton supporting AG made sure it would be late afternoon
before it would go into effect.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
14. Are people really dim enough to think a judge can force a closed primary to become an open one?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:54 PM
Apr 2016

Really?

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
13. I can't differentiate one Sanders poutrage from the next, which lawsuit is this?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:52 PM
Apr 2016

The one that alleges improper deletions from the voter registrations (possible merit), or the one that alleges that the very concept of a closed primary equates to voter suppression (without merit) ?

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