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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:00 AM Apr 2016

Sanders Hits Clinton On Campaign Finance Hours Before New York Votes

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-campaign-finance_us_5715a0f4e4b0018f9cbaf224

NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders accused front-runner Hillary Clinton of apparent campaign finance violations on Monday, ratcheting up the rhetoric against his rival one day before New York state’s crucial primary elections.

Sanders questioned whether Clinton’s campaign violated legal limits on donations by paying her staffers with funds from a joint fundraising effort by Clinton and the Democratic National Committee, or DNC.

Sanders has long maintained that the DNC has favored Clinton over Sanders. The U.S. senator from Vermont is a democratic socialist who has run as an independent in his Senate campaigns.

“While the use of joint fundraising agreements has existed for some time - it is unprecedented for the DNC to allow a joint committee to be exploited to the benefit of one candidate in the midst of a contested nominating contest,” Sanders’ campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, said.
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Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
4. Ok but how is the money supposed to be dispersed?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:05 AM
Apr 2016

I saw in one article that Clinton got 15 million. How much did Sanders get?

Campaign finance is a murky place.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
6. A former general counsel of the FEC had some very choice words for Hillary's fund:
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:06 AM
Apr 2016
Democratic Party fundraising effort helps Clinton find new donors, too

By Matea Gold and Tom Hamburger February 20 2016

~Snip~

“I’ve never seen anything like this,” said Lawrence Noble, a former general counsel of the Federal Election Commission (FEC) who is now with the nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center. “Joint victory funds are not intended to be separate operating committees that just support a single candidate. But they appear to be turning the traditional notion of a joint committee into a Hillary fundraising committee.”...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democratic-party-fundraising-effort-helps-clinton-find-new-donors-too/2016/02/19/b8535cea-d68f-11e5-b195-2e29a4e13425_story.html
 

think

(11,641 posts)
11. Over 7 million small donations from over 3 million donors. He wasn't using funds intended for others
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:17 AM
Apr 2016

to fund his own campaigning efforts. The Sanders campiign has responded to every problem that's come up from having record numbers of donors and donations.

Hillary is playing fast and loose with campaign finance laws. And that's what the former FEC official was getting at.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
12. Anything to deflect from Sanders shady campaign funds.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:21 AM
Apr 2016

FEC

http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/619/201602250300038619/201602250300038619.pdf

http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/988/201602110300034988/201602110300034988.pdf

These aren't from "former" FEC persons. They are from the FEC itself. Do you know Sanders signed the same joint fundraising agreement with the DNC.


Sanders and Weaver are really on unethical ground here. I knew Weaver would go there, a bit surprised how easy it was to get Sanders there. Really shady on their part.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
13. Hillary is playing games with campaign finances. You're posting to accounting issues that have been
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:30 AM
Apr 2016

addressed. Bernie was not in direct control of all those contributions and it requires a large accounting effort to itemize them all and make sure limits were not breached.

These are normal Americans making small donations. Hillary is using a loophole so extremely rich donors can make a onetime donation that is over 130 times larger than the ones Bernie can take from the normal process. Hillary is then using that money first for her efforts. The money that was suppose to go to the down ticket candidates isn't getting to them.

Sanders knows exactly what he's addressing. Hillary is taking funds she raised for other candidates and using that money to help fund her own damn campaign.


So far, the state parties have served only as a pass-through for their share of the funds. Campaign finance records show that nearly $2 million in donations to the fund initially routed last year to individual state party accounts was immediately transferred to the DNC, which is laboring to pay off millions of dollars in debt.

~Snip~

“I’ve never seen anything like this,” said Lawrence Noble, a former general counsel of the Federal Election Commission (FEC) who is now with the nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center. “Joint victory funds are not intended to be separate operating committees that just support a single candidate. But they appear to be turning the traditional notion of a joint committee into a Hillary fundraising committee.”...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democratic-party-fundraising-effort-helps-clinton-find-new-donors-too/2016/02/19/b8535cea-d68f-11e5-b195-2e29a4e13425_story.html



Talk about unethical. Hillary takes the cake...
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
14. You will simply dismiss anything.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:34 AM
Apr 2016

You are playing a game of partisan politics when we actually have one campaign regularly taking part in shady donation practices. That just doesn't play into your game of partisan politics.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
15. I addressed the FEC links. Where is your discussion of what Hillary is doing with her Victory Fund?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:37 AM
Apr 2016

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
2. These are not the actions of a real Democrat ...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:04 AM
Apr 2016

... the Democratic parties of the individual states will not be amused.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
3. Wish he went after this months ago.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:04 AM
Apr 2016

But he chose not to go negative and the media certainly isn't going to their job. Except, some in the media are "doing their job" on behalf of the Clinton Camp.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
5. If the shoe had been on the other foot think of the huge protests that would occur.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:06 AM
Apr 2016

Sanders campaign is really low-ball in more ways then one.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
7. Devine was on Chris Hayes last night ...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:07 AM
Apr 2016

... and he repeatedly referred to the Democratic Party as the Democrat Party.

Wankers.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
8. Sanders signed the exact same contract with the DNC.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:08 AM
Apr 2016

What Sanders is doing here is unethical and malicious. If the DNC and Clinton were as shady as he is they would file suit back for defamation. Really low what Sanders and Weaver are doing.

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
10. Good for Bernie. This should have been addressed much sooner.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:11 AM
Apr 2016

It is a money laundering loophole created by the McCutchen vs FEC decision. It enabled Hill to funnel her funds through state parties and the DNC. No one is saying it is breaking any law but it is morally bankrupt, much like the Clinton family M.O.

The requirement for the 33 states participating is that their super delegates MUST commit to Hill. This all happened before she even announced her candidacy. It was an orchestrated slimy activity. The one person, one vote concept is a fucking miserable joke.

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