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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:18 AM Apr 2016

The day I inadvertantly jammed $27 into a very angry hornet’s nest

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/19/the-day-i-inadvertantly-jammed-27-89-into-a-very-angry-hornets-nest/

On Monday, I wrote a piece exploring what I considered an interesting question: Why was it that Bernie Sanders's average campaign contribution had stayed at $27 for months? It was a question I'd seen on Twitter on the not-infrequent occasions in which Sanders brought it up, and it's something that I figured I could answer. So I answered it. The reasons? First, averages involving millions of numbers change slowly. Second, the campaign encourages a $27 donation explicitly (with a button on its fundraising page) and implicitly (by making it a point of pride). And, third, it actually does waver from that point, apparently by decent margins, but the effect is still the same.

Shortly after the piece went live under a headline that highlighted the fact that the $27 isn't constant, I began receiving a steady barrage of negative feedback on social media from Sanders supporters. That by itself isn't uncommon and isn't actually representative of the real world. (I wrote about this in February.) But the tenor and volume of that feedback was unusual — particularly given that the piece was innocuous, as I saw it. It wasn't a fact-check; it was a math lesson. But by the end of the day, I'd received thousands of negative tweets, negative comments on Facebook, and any number of emails — excluding the scores of spam emails I'm getting because someone signed me up for them in bulk. Someone called my editor to complain. Someone else posted my home address on Twitter.

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And, fourth, there is an obvious willingness by Sanders supporters to assume that institutions of power are out to get them — and to lash out in response. This goes back to the original point. I'm not owed the benefit of the doubt that my goal was not to disparage Sanders's contributions but to explain them. But neither I nor anyone else writing critically about Sanders deserves the sort of response that has been received. No, Twitter isn't life. But irrational fury that leads to abusive behavior isn't the sort of thing that should be ignored.


Campaigns built on indignation and anger stochastically produce this kind of response. It remains to be seen whether this will get better or worse, and whether Senator Sanders will show true leadership on that count.
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The day I inadvertantly jammed $27 into a very angry hornet’s nest (Original Post) geek tragedy Apr 2016 OP
I don't want this element in my party RandySF Apr 2016 #1
Good luck with that! astrophuss42 Apr 2016 #2
You know RandySF Apr 2016 #5
"Nuts" as you call them, are responsible for their own behavior astrophuss42 Apr 2016 #8
Those people....the unwashed masses. Armstead Apr 2016 #3
Posting home addresses is ok? RandySF Apr 2016 #6
No it sucks. I condemn it. Armstead Apr 2016 #7
I understand. I don't want to belong to a party infested with neocons! nt m-lekktor Apr 2016 #14
maybe they shouldn't tweak headlines so much that they are no longer accurate Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #4
Maybe if he wasn't a liar? beedle Apr 2016 #9
That money is lining Tad's pockets now. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #10
Cry me a river. 99th_Monkey Apr 2016 #11
What did the poor fellow expect? Universal applause and a Pulitzer prize? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #12
It's a lack of maturity along with bullying and groupthink. This reporter BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #13
The same people that will tell you there is no intimidation will then cheer it on Renew Deal Apr 2016 #15

RandySF

(58,835 posts)
5. You know
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:37 AM
Apr 2016

I can think at least one case in Asia of reporters being killed by candidate supporters. And before you scoff, we already have had elected officials who've been shot by nuts who were inspired by the Internet or talk radio.

astrophuss42

(290 posts)
8. "Nuts" as you call them, are responsible for their own behavior
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:48 AM
Apr 2016

Honestly more mental health services would be nice but that managed to exit from the gun problem narrative a while ago. Maybe the Vermont to NY gun pipeline or gun manufacturer immunity became the new talking points.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
3. Those people....the unwashed masses.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:36 AM
Apr 2016

Some of them are so .....human.

Hand me my handkerchief please. There's too much dust in the air, and you know I am so sensitive to allergies.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
9. Maybe if he wasn't a liar?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:21 PM
Apr 2016

Interesting questions?

Bernie Sanders keeps saying his average donation is $27, but his own numbers contradict that


$27 isn't really accurate
snip ..
But is the average $27 every day? Not according to data from the campaign.



The 'real' average that 'contradicts' the $27 claim? $27.88!!

No one was fooled by the so-called "innocence" of this hit piece.
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
11. Cry me a river.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:48 PM
Apr 2016

This habit of obliquely attacking Sanders because of his "mean nasty supporters" is nothing
more than whining & playing the victim by people who should know better. When people
in public life (public officials, journalists, writers, reporters and such) express opinions, they
should expect responses, some favorable some not so much. So fucking what? That's what
they signed up for by virtue of their chosen profession.

The Sanders campaign is built on a deep & powerful love and respect for life, truth and beauty,
not on "indignation and anger" as you falsely insinuate. Just like in any large group of millions,
their will always be a few who comport themselves poorly or who have occasional lapses of
judgement, e.g. publishing someone's personal information.

Mostly what this illustrates is how desperate Hillary supporters are for some shred of
negativity to project onto Bernie's bid for the nomination, or to conjure some "issue" out
of thin air to express faux-outrage about. Starting with inane quibbling re: whether Bernie's
average donations are $27 or $27.88, Mr Bump just can't help himself from taking criticism
poorly and blaming Sanderistas for "over-reacting" when they question the relevance or
significance of his hit-piece.

Perhaps Mr Bump needs to find a new line of work if he cannot handle the heat in the
public kitchen.

BreakfastClub

(765 posts)
13. It's a lack of maturity along with bullying and groupthink. This reporter
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:09 PM
Apr 2016

is experiencing what women experience every single time they write or publicly say anything related to feminism or sexism. They are harassed (probably by some of the same people) relentlessly, get death threats, threats of rape, etc. It is a big problem, and nobody is addressing it in any fundamental way. Women have had to go into hiding simply for writing an op-ed about women in gaming. The people who behave this way do NOT want any woman to be president under any circumstance. They're probably afraid their fun will be over.

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