2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumA list of HRC speeches. Dates, locations, renumerations. For the curious.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)gets paid a lot of money to give speeches based on her remarkable life experience, expertise, and popularity.
And?
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)She's obviously in the tank for CAMPERS everywhere! She cannot make me sleep in a damn tent no way.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)The camping oligarchy is clearly poised to take over the US.
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)Enjoy your stay!
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)Even if its 4 years late
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)when they seem to rack up posts quickly.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)I see the future democratic nominee criticized unjustly on a forum thats supposedly full of democrats.
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)Enjoy your stay!
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Under another name.
I appreciate the welcome though. It's been an ugly primary season. Should be pretty much over by next Tuesday though. I look forward to reasoned discourse prevailing once again!
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)A true-blue Democrat, with progressive ideals and pragmatic plans for implementing them. She is basically my ideal candidate. Can't wait to see her sworn in as Madame President!
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)If you want to understand Hillary's very progressive positions, I suggest you check out her website.
The difference between you and me is that I believe that she will implement as much of her platform as she is able to, while you don't. It comes down, as almost everything in politics does, to character. You think she's an evil liar, I think she's great. If you judge the two candidates issue by issue, there's almost no difference between them. I don't like angry, shouty Bernie. You don't like Hillary. Hence, we each have a vote.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)But then, I suppose it's a difficult day for you. My thoughts are with you at this trying time.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Contrary1
(12,629 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)questionseverything
(9,656 posts)when has either major party nominated a candidate that was under criminal investigation?
never thats when
and there is a reason for that...wether she is indicted or not, she is tainted
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)#releasethetranscripts so we can hear her words of 'wisdom'
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Ash_F
(5,861 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Can't have that! Let's dissolve all businesses and go back to bartering with leaves!
Seriously, sorry for the sarcasm, but it really is ok to be pro-business AND a Democrat. Most of us work for businesses.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)You should watch it; she doesn't talk about business. She talks about camping, about how it's great for kids, and how glad she is that kids can have these wonderful, enriching experiences.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)About Us
Beth El is a warm, open and caring Conservative Jewish community in St. Louis Park, Minnesota. The synagogue reaches out to its 1,250 households, offering educational, spiritual and social opportunities that nourish the intellect, soul and body. In so doing, familial bonds have been formed between members that stretch from generation to generation.
http://www.bethelsynagogue.org/about/
I would especially like to know what exactly she said to this 'conservative' group about Israel and their disproportionate responses.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)There's nothing sinister there. She's openly pro-Israel, AS IS the United States.
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)what exactly did she say to this group specifically?
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)Bet they have winnebagos and those fancy store bought marshmallow sticks!
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)almost 20 years, while Bill was Gov and POTUS. How dare she join a speakers circuit after leaving government service!
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)How dare she be so in-demand? What a pushy broad, being so popular!
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)about how evil these speeches were in all these years...suddenly they are the end of the world.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Somehow. With Bernie math.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)outraged about, so I take it all with a grain of salt.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Okay, there, citizen..
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)The Massachusetts Conference for Women? The American Camping Association? Beth El Synagogue? You think the Camping Association is looking to curry political favour?
Seriously, take a look around. 2.5 million more people have voted for Hillary than for your candidate, because they LIKE her. She's famous, she's brilliant, she's accomplished, and she's one of the most qualified candidates for president we have EVER had. I'm proud to cast my vote for her!
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I'm still wondering why all the connections to the money in your post don't have a damned thing to do with the majority of people who would vote for her. What does any of that have to do electorates?
Have you been distracted by the current oligarchic model? Sorry, but I'm still thinking we have a chance of returning to a democracy.
kennetha
(3,666 posts)the American Camping Association or the Innovation Arts and Entertainment or the National Council for Behavioral Healthcare of the Vancouver Board of Trade (nefarious Canadians that they are) or the US Green Building Council or the Massachusetts Conference for Women.
Why is that?
I assume she didn't write a new speech for each of these gigs. Some of them are back to back to back. Some even on the same day. Probably just variations on a theme.
You know the answer, cause Bernie wants to make it look like she was taking money from Wall Street in particular.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Wonder why?
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)...people worked hard at poverty wages to earn the money for those payments.
kennetha
(3,666 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Highly recommend everyone watch it.
amborin
(16,631 posts)Response to TalkingDog (Original post)
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auntpurl
(4,311 posts)How dare she! Pushy lady!
kennetha
(3,666 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)up system that she and almost ALL other politicians are part of, then you will be getting somewhere.
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)n/t
think
(11,641 posts)Rauners GTCR is linked to nursing home deaths and abuse. And one subsidiary company of GTCR defrauded medicaid and the Department of Veterans Affairs. (I didn't have time to go through all the companies.)
Hillary Clinton Got $280,000 for One Speech to Bruce Rauners Former Firm
By Carol Felsenthal - PUBLISHED FEB. 10, 2016, AT 3:14 P.M.
On June 28, 2014, Hillary Clinton, gone more than a year from her job as Obamas secretary of state and obviously preparing to move back to the White House, traveled to her hometown of Chicago to deliver a speech to GTCR. Thats GTCR, the private equity firm that Bruce Rauner once headedthe R stands for Raunerand that earned him the millions he would use in his successful run for governor.
For that one speech, Hillary was paid $280,000almost six times the median income for American households.
This wasnt her only big-money appearance in Chicago. According to her Executive Branch Personnel Public Financial Disclosure Report, covering January 2014 through May 2015, she also spoke to the United Fresh Produce Association ($225,000) and the Advanced Medical Technology Association ($265,000).
Rauner had left GTCR in 2012. I was curious whether he had attended the speech, but email to Rauners press secretary was not answered, nor were calls and email seeking further details from GTCR and from Don Walker, president of Hillarys lecture agency.
If only we knew what she said to those GTCR executives and their clients and investors. For example, did she mention the ugly gubernatorial race that at that moment was pitting Rauner against incumbent Democrat Pat Quinn, for whom Hillary would later campaign in Chicago?...
Full article:
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/Felsenthal-Files/February-2016/Hillary-Clinton-speech-GTCR/
Some background on GTCR for those unfamiliar with GOP Governor Bruce Rauner's former company which is a multi billion dollar healthcare conglomerate that includes a wide variety of companies in the health care industry including but certainly not limited to nursing homes, hospital debt collection,and pharmaceutical companies:
According to NPR GTCR paid Hillary Clinton $780,000 in total to speak to them a few times:
~Snip~
Some Of Hillary Clinton's Honoraria
GE $225,500
National Automobile Dealers Association $225,500
Novo Nordisk $125,000
California Medical Association (via satellite) $100,000
tinePublic Inc $225,000
Xerox Corporation $225,000
Institute of Scrap Metal Recycling Industries $225,000
United Fresh Produce Association $225,000
tinePublic Inc $150,000
tinePublic Inc $100,000
Biotechnology Industry Organization $335,000
GTCR $780,000
Knewton Inc $225,000
Ameriprise $225,500
Corning Incorporated $225,500
Cisco $325,000
Cardiovascular Research Foundation $275,000
Canada 2020 $275,000
Qualcomm Incorporated $335,000
Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce $150,000
Watermark's Silicon Valley Conference for Women $225,500
eBay Inc $315,000
Source:
http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/05/15/407117996/clintons-earned-30-million-from-paid-speeches-and-book-sales
One of the companies under the GTCR corporate umbrella has been convicted for defrauding Medicaid & The Department of Veterans Affairs:
Maxim Healthcare Pays $150 Million in Fraud Case
By DUFF WILSON SEPTEMBER 12, 2011 3:05 PM
Maxim Healthcare Services, a privately held company with 360 offices nationwide offering home health care services, has agreed to pay about $150 million to settle civil and criminal charges over claims of false billings to Medicaid and the Department of Veterans Affairs, the Department of Justice announced Monday.
In addition, nine current and former Maxim employees, including three senior managers, have pleaded guilty since 2009 to felony charges, the government said.
Federal prosecutors have been highlighting their efforts to root out health care fraud in recent years. The government has added scores of health care investigators and prosecutors since 2009.
Fraudulent billings and false statements to health officials became a common practice at Maxim from 2003 through 2009, according to a statement from the United States attorneys office in Newark, N.J.
The acts included falsification of time sheets, training records and caregiver qualifications, the government said in a criminal complaint. Most of the nine people await sentencing in the United States District Court in Trenton. Two have been sentenced to probation....
Source:
http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/12/maxim-healthcare-pays-150-million-in-fraud-case/?_r=0
The DOJ report on Maxim's fraudulent activities:
http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/maxim-healthcare-services-charged-fraud-agrees-pay-approximately-150-million-enact-reforms
Another company is a debt collection service for HealthCare:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/11/accretive-health-debt-collector-hospitals_n_1509329.html
Here's some more fun articles on GTCR and fraudulent activity:
https://www.altassets.net/private-equity-news/by-news-type/deal-news/lawsuit-accuses-gtcr-of-fraud-over-227m-aps-healthcare-sale.html
http://www.chicagonow.com/kelly-truth-squad/2014/01/company-owned-by-bruce-rauners-firm-gtcr-tried-to-cheat-employees-for-millions-lawsuit-claims/
http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/5-Developments-in-Rauners-Nursing-Home-Drama-277106111.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/doug-ibendahl/rauners-gtcr-settled-rack_b_5375061.html
By DOUG IBENDAHL January 22, 2014
Republican gubernatorial candidate Bruce Rauner pledges to run Illinois government like a business. In light of some disturbing facts which have come to light through multiple lawsuits involving Rauners former private equity firm, voters had better do their homework into what exactly the catchphrase like a business means to Mr. Rauner.
The nursing home industry came under serious stress in the wake of the Balanced Budget Act of 1997. The law significantly changed Medicares reimbursement system. Where before Medicare had reimbursed nursing homes for their costs plus a profit, now there were strict limitations on reimbursements and new regulations on how long patients could stay in nursing homes for certain conditions.
In 2000 The Wall Street Journal said: The vultures are circling the carnage in the nursing-home industry. With some of the largest nursing-home operators under bankruptcy protection and others heading in that direction, a number of deep-pocketed investors are preparing to swoop in on the choice morsels.
Bruce Rauners Chicago-based investment firm GTCR, LLC (formerly known as GTCR Golder Rauner) decided to get in on the action and one vehicle it used was Trans Healthcare Inc. (THI). THIs launch to acquire nursing homes appealed to GTCR because a new prospective payment system for Medicare was just being implemented, said Ned Jannotta Jr., then a GTCR principal....
Source:
http://republicannewswatch.com/wp/?p=13297
Here is a complete list of all the companies GTCR owns. (I have only researched a handful of them):
AllFinancial Services & Technology Healthcare
Technology, Media & Telecommunications
Growth Business Services
Accretive Solutions
Actient Pharmaceuticals
Adra SystemsAdvanced Robotics
AETEA Information TechnologyAligned
Asset Managers
Alliant Resources Group
Alpha Q Inc.(REB Industries)
American Broadcasting (Betacom)
American Habilitation
American Healthcare
American Income Holding
American Medical Laboratories
American Mediserve
American Sanitary
AnswerThink
Anthonys Manufacturing
AppNet
APS Healthcare
Argent Healthcare
Financial Services
AspireAssuredPartners
ATI Physical Therapy Inc.
ATM Network ManagementAutomated Correspondence
B R Industries
BankServ
Barefoot Grass Lawn Service
BelvedereBenchmark Services
Benesource
Black Hawk Holding
BrienceBulk LogisticsBurnham Service
Bush C-IIICable Design Technologies Intercole)
CAK
California Fashion
Camax Systems
Cambridge Protection Industries Holdings
Capella Healthcare LLC
Cardinal Logistics Management
CCC Information Services
CellNet Technology
Cellular Network
Certus Enterprises
Cherrydale Farms
Classic Media (Boomerang Media)
Clicklogistics
Coinmach Corporation
CompBenefits Corporation
Compression Labs
Comsys Technical Services
Continental Medical Systems
Convergence
Cord Blood Registry
CrellinCrystal Products
CuraScript
Curo Health Services
Datakey
Dataspeed
Davis Vision
Delite Outdoor Advertising
Dental Health (CompBenefits)
Devicor Medical Products
Dickson Media
DigitalNet
Dimac
DRG Funding Corporation
Dynacare
E G & GEmc McdataEnvision
Financial Technologies (Users)
Ero Industries
Esquire Communications
Excaliber Tubular
ExcelerateExcelus
HRFairmount
FiderusFinancial Services Merchandising
First Systems
ForeFront Education
Frontline GroupFundtech
FutureNext Consulting
GeneraMedix Pharmaceuticals
GenpassGensar (formerly TPI)
Geographic SystemsGlobal Imaging Systems
Golden Gate Logistics
Golf Enterprises
Graceway Pharmaceuticals
Graphic Packaging
GTC Acquisition
GTC AUTOMOTIVE (discontinued IC)
Haddon Craftsmen
Hawkeye Communications
HCR ACQUISITION (discontinued IC)
Health Care Tech.
Health!
QuestHealthSpring
Heritage Golf Group
Heritage Propane
Higmark
HomeBanc Mortgage Corporation
Hospital Group of America
HSM Electronic Protection Services
InfoHighway
IntecapInternational Check Services
International Computer Graphics
InterspecInvenergyIPS Paystation
ITI Marketing ServicesIVI Management Systems (Execunet)
IxoKeystone GroupKKR
Investment PoolLab
PortalLand Lease Group
Landmark FBO Holdings
Lason SystemsLeapsource
LifeCare Management Services
LighthouseManaged Health Care Associates
Marquest Resources
Maxim Healthcare
MC Industries
Medical Care International
Medical Trans of America
MedplusMedsouth
Meridian Communications
Merlin MediaMetamor Worldwide (CORESTAFF)
MHAMorton Grove Pharmaceuticals
Mountain Valley Water
MS Financial
MSP Television
MidlandNational Computer PrintNational Equipment Services
NaviSite
New Hope Pain Centers
Nicholstone Printing
Northern Investment
NPCNSC Communications
Nu-MedOpti-CraftOtrona Advanced Systems
Ovation Pharmaceuticals
Paging Network
Palladian Financial
Paragon Family Services
Phenix Venture Acquisitions
Physicians Radio (Sage)
Polymer Group / PolyporePremium Credit Limited
Prestige BrandsPrime Succession
PrivateBancorp
Protection 1
Province Healthcare
ProximusProxy Message Center
PT ComponentsPTN Holding
QFour
Qualicare
Quantum Medical Systems
Rehab Hospital Services
Remco American
Republic Telecom
Republic Telecom Systems
Restaurant Mgmt (formerly Florida Food)Restaurant Mgmt Services
ReSurgeRisk Management AlternativesSage Broadcasting
Scandia DownSelect Medical Corporation
Service NetShadhill
ShapeSherwood Hennes Broadcasting
Six3 Systems
Skylight Financial
Solera
Sorenson Communications
Southern FoodsSovereign
Specialty Chemicals
Student Transportation of America
Sullivan Graphics
Summit Oilfield
Swergold Chefitz & Sinsabaugh
Synagro Technologies
Syniverse Technologies
SystemsNet, Inc.
TFS AcquisitionThe Newtrend Group
TNSTrans Healthcare, Inc.
Transaction Network Services
TransFirst
Transform Logic
TriadU.S. AggregatesU.S. Security
Ullo International
US FleetVanteon
VecTour (Travelways)
VeriFone
Vicom Systems
Vigic
Vista Information TechnologiesVLI Corporation
Wallace Theater Corporation
Willow Springs Prem
WaterWilton Brands
Zefer
Zenlogics
Zenta
kennetha
(3,666 posts)VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)classist DINO who will drive our country into the ground to try and pay back her sponsors. There's a less verbose phrase for that that used to be bandied about here prior to the Tumblr brigade decrying it as "sexist"...