2016 Postmortem

Impedimentus

(898 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:51 PM Apr 2016

Will Hillary Clinton Turn Into Ralph Nader ?

I have a question for Hillary Clinton: Are you going to become a Ralph Nader and try to destroy the Democratic party?

I believe Hillary Clinton has issued a series of attacks that hurt the Democratic Party. Additionally, her extremely high negatives and ever increasing unpopularity may mean that if she is the nominee she will ensure a Republican victory in November, as well as hurt the party's down ticket.

Is Secretary Clinton going to stop attacks that damage Democrats so that she will not hurt those Democrats down the ticket? Is she going to support the party that is in favor of strong and immediate action to address the coming climate catastrophe, ensure that strong and forceful laws and regulations are passed that will protect the 99% from the greedy and power hungry financial elites, reduce the burden of student debt on our young people, end the social security income cap, raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour, stop taking money from financial and fossil fuel interests, try to end the obscene system of money that is corrupting the election system, and stop her campaign from spreading falsehoods about Sen. Sanders positions? Or, will she turn herself into someone who will do what she shouldn't do, and be a Ralph Nader and try to destroy the party when it comes to defeating Republicans in November?"

FEEL THE BERN - 2016

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Will Hillary Clinton Turn Into Ralph Nader ? (Original Post) Impedimentus Apr 2016 OP

I think most people in the non-DU world see this exactly the other way around. With Sanders anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #1

um Robbins Apr 2016 #9

Did you say the same thing in 1992 when Bill Clinton spent the election attacking Democrats? ieoeja Apr 2016 #11

Never, ever, ever... FarPoint Apr 2016 #2

The opposite is true pandr32 Apr 2016 #3

Another copycat thread. Aren't these supposed to be posted in The Lounge? Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #4

good question! seems to be what she's doing; she's persisting, and taking the entire Dem party down amborin Apr 2016 #5

Do you really have to ask that question? tularetom Apr 2016 #6

Yes, I think it is a fair question, especially since the Clinton campaign keeps asking it of Sanders Impedimentus Apr 2016 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Apr 2016 #8

The billionaires are today's comsumers nolabels Apr 2016 #13

Ralph Nader isn't really the villain most Democrats make him out to be. Most THOUGHTFUL ... Impedimentus Apr 2016 #10

Umm, Hillary is a democrat. If anyone is Nader, it's Barnie Sanders. nt BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #12

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)

1. I think most people in the non-DU world see this exactly the other way around. With Sanders

Reply to Impedimentus (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:55 PM

Apr 2016

denigrating the DNC yesterday, it seems that he is on a path to taking his supporters and running as an independent.

No, this is not just spin by a random Hillary supporter, listen to the media today.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)

9. um

Reply to anotherproletariat (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:48 PM

Apr 2016

the media is clinton supporters.

since you clinton supporters attack bernie and his supporters with every name in book you shouldn't care if he runs as independent
and his supporters desert democratic party too.you all seem to think bernie supporters are ilrelvent including those like me who have been voting democratic for years.you don't even seem to care if we are able to vote In primarys.

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)

11. Did you say the same thing in 1992 when Bill Clinton spent the election attacking Democrats?

Reply to anotherproletariat (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:33 PM

Apr 2016

Of course, back then Liberals ran the Democratic Party. So that was probably okay with you guys.

FarPoint

(12,409 posts)

2. Never, ever, ever...

Reply to Impedimentus (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:56 PM

Apr 2016

Sanders, well that fella just may do a U-turn.

pandr32

(11,586 posts)

3. The opposite is true

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Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:04 PM

Apr 2016

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)

4. Another copycat thread. Aren't these supposed to be posted in The Lounge?

Reply to Impedimentus (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:09 PM

Apr 2016

amborin

(16,631 posts)

5. good question! seems to be what she's doing; she's persisting, and taking the entire Dem party down

Reply to Impedimentus (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:10 PM

Apr 2016

with her

if she really cared about the Democratic party, she'd end her campaign now

tularetom

(23,664 posts)

6. Do you really have to ask that question?

Reply to Impedimentus (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:15 PM

Apr 2016

Her priorities are as follows:

1. Get elected president.

That's all. There are no other priorities.

If she has to destroy the party in the process, well, tough shit. She isn't afraid of hippies and liberals, but she does fear neocons and banksters.

Impedimentus

(898 posts)

7. Yes, I think it is a fair question, especially since the Clinton campaign keeps asking it of Sanders

Reply to tularetom (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:26 PM

Apr 2016

I think they raise the false issue of Sanders being a Ralph Nader because the want to deflect attention away from Hillary's many, many negatives, her flip-flopping and her inability to refuse money from some of the most destructive sectors of the American economy. By turning the question on Bernie they are attempting to pretend that Clinton is not the one who could be the real Ralph Nader in 2016 by taking the entire party down with her. Democrats should be much more afraid of Hillary than of Bernie.

FEEL THE BERN - 2016

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nolabels

(13,133 posts)

13. The billionaires are today's comsumers

Reply to Corruption Inc (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:47 PM

Apr 2016

Every increase in productivity and wealth they suck right up like a vacuum cleaner while at the same time the rest of our world gets trashed in the process.

So then if that not the definition of what consuming is then i wouldn't know

Impedimentus

(898 posts)

10. Ralph Nader isn't really the villain most Democrats make him out to be. Most THOUGHTFUL ...

Reply to Impedimentus (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:55 PM

Apr 2016

analyses show that he took away approximately equal numbers of votes from Gore and Bush, or in other ways did not cause Gore to lose. The real reason Gore lost was because of vote rigging and "hanging chads" in Florida, along with a reactionary Supreme Court.

Nader has done a world of good as a consumer advocate, certainly more good for the American people than opportunists like Hillary R. Clinton have or will ever do.

FEEL THE BERN - 2016

BreakfastClub

(765 posts)

12. Umm, Hillary is a democrat. If anyone is Nader, it's Barnie Sanders. nt

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Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:34 PM

Apr 2016

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