2016 Postmortem

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:08 PM Apr 2016

MSNBC: Both Camps are expecting single-digit win for Hillary.

Just now reported.

That's JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH HILLARY!!

The party leadership has been reported earlier to question her candidacy for the GE with a narrow win in her home state. http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511778273

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MSNBC: Both Camps are expecting single-digit win for Hillary. (Original Post) berni_mccoy Apr 2016 OP

Bernie needs a 25%+ win in New York to still not be viable. nt onehandle Apr 2016 #1

That's just silliness and you know it. morningfog Apr 2016 #5

Bull. Those 548 CA delegates will be in play. nm floriduck Apr 2016 #10

First of all, it's not that many. It's 475. Second of all, he's not going to win there or at least Zynx Apr 2016 #17

Check it out. The total is 548. It includes supers too. floriduck Apr 2016 #33

He can get +548? onehandle Apr 2016 #25

You're like an old LP that keeps skipping, unable to get off its track: no more than backgrnd noise JudyM Apr 2016 #16

So what's the solution? hack89 Apr 2016 #2

So how many delegates does Bernie gain on her in that scenario? jcgoldie Apr 2016 #3

Enough to carry on.....while his campaign continues to GROW!!! ViseGrip Apr 2016 #13

How does he gain delegates in the situation the seminal poster described? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #24

that was uh my point exactly (nt) jcgoldie Apr 2016 #34

If it's good enough to win her the primary, then it's good enough. What Bernie is doing BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #4

Yes, because I believe that a Sanders supporter has an "inside line" to Dem party leadership. IamMab Apr 2016 #6

Only for Bernie and Marco is losing a winning strategy. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #7

What does "not good enough" mean? YouDig Apr 2016 #8

Interesting. That could have a near tie impact on delegates. Kittycat Apr 2016 #9

Who cares? Dem2 Apr 2016 #11

this is the healthy attitute both individually and party wide. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #21

Her "home" state. Svafa Apr 2016 #12

His home state...and he loses lunamagica Apr 2016 #20

I'm not saying it really is a home state for either of them. Svafa Apr 2016 #36

It used to be known as carpet bagging. n/t libdem4life Apr 2016 #47

Not that it isn't already over, but this is the clear ball game if Clinton takes NY. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #14

This is desperate. If she picks up delegates tonight, he's done. Zynx Apr 2016 #15

"You're hoping for utter nonsense" demwing Apr 2016 #26

Maybe as you define them. Zynx Apr 2016 #29

So it depends on what the definition of "is" is? demwing Apr 2016 #31

Only because of "voting irregularities" nt WDIM Apr 2016 #18

hopefully below 5% rather than below 9%. would love to see 1%, 2% Hiraeth Apr 2016 #19

would love to see him win it outright. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #22

Linking your own bullshit isn't validation for the bullshit. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #23

I think its what the kid's call ... JoePhilly Apr 2016 #28

LOL.. "not good enough" for Hillary to win?? DCBob Apr 2016 #27

Imagine... Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #30

So, if Hillary wins and only gets a few delegats, Bernie will have a victory party? anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #32

You go with that Renew Deal Apr 2016 #35

Are you some kind of performance artist? NuclearDem Apr 2016 #37

K&R n/t NYC Liberal Apr 2016 #38

I just heard the guy say it would be difficult for Bernie to gain enough to get it below a 10% n/t tammywammy Apr 2016 #39

Well now... wysi Apr 2016 #40

Absolutely Not!!!! asuhornets Apr 2016 #44

They asuhornets Apr 2016 #41

Hillary = OHYEAH nt OhZone Apr 2016 #42

How's 17% workin for ya, McCoy? Tarc Apr 2016 #43

Bwhahahahahaha !!!!! JoePhilly Apr 2016 #45

So we can assume your truly heartfelt concerns for the legitimacy of Clinton's Codeine Apr 2016 #46

With 73% of the vote in, Hillary's up by 16. nt kstewart33 Apr 2016 #48

... LexVegas Apr 2016 #49

Rub it in guys. It's fine. It is what MSNBC reported at the time berni_mccoy Apr 2016 #50

That's a cool response still_one Apr 2016 #56

Wow! 75% of the votes in and it's a blow out for Hillary!!!! Walk away Apr 2016 #51

Nice. Good luck to your vision of the democratic party Joob Apr 2016 #53

Ooops! George II Apr 2016 #52

88% Reporting - Hillary Clinton 57.4% 104 Bernie Sanders 42.6% Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #54

This is why it is not prudent to make predictions still_one Apr 2016 #55

I'm raising a single digit. I'll let you guess which one. Starry Messenger Apr 2016 #57

I love posts like these Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #58

Looks like the voters confounded them HRC will win by about 15 points. book_worm Apr 2016 #59

Crow. So many ways to eat it... Stand and Fight Apr 2016 #60

onehandle

(51,122 posts)

1. Bernie needs a 25%+ win in New York to still not be viable. nt

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:09 PM

Apr 2016

morningfog

(18,115 posts)

5. That's just silliness and you know it.

Reply to onehandle (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:13 PM

Apr 2016

floriduck

(2,262 posts)

10. Bull. Those 548 CA delegates will be in play. nm

Reply to onehandle (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:17 PM

Apr 2016

Zynx

(21,328 posts)

17. First of all, it's not that many. It's 475. Second of all, he's not going to win there or at least

Reply to floriduck (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:24 PM

Apr 2016

not by very much. Even if he wins by 10, that's less than a 50 delegate pick up to chip away at a 200 delegate lead. Where does he make up the rest?

floriduck

(2,262 posts)

33. Check it out. The total is 548. It includes supers too.

Reply to Zynx (Reply #17)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:00 PM

Apr 2016

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/CA-D

onehandle

(51,122 posts)

25. He can get +548?

Reply to floriduck (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:32 PM

Apr 2016

Cool story, bro.

JudyM

(29,250 posts)

16. You're like an old LP that keeps skipping, unable to get off its track: no more than backgrnd noise

Reply to onehandle (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:23 PM

Apr 2016

Same posts over and over and over...

hack89

(39,171 posts)

2. So what's the solution?

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:10 PM

Apr 2016

hand the nomination to the candidate with fewer pledged delegates and votes?

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)

3. So how many delegates does Bernie gain on her in that scenario?

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:12 PM

Apr 2016

Clocks ticking.

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)

13. Enough to carry on.....while his campaign continues to GROW!!!

Reply to jcgoldie (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:21 PM

Apr 2016

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)

24. How does he gain delegates in the situation the seminal poster described?

Reply to jcgoldie (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:30 PM

Apr 2016

MSNBC: Both Camps are expecting single-digit win for Hillary.

Thank you in advance.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)

34. that was uh my point exactly (nt)

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #24)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:03 PM

Apr 2016

BreakfastClub

(765 posts)

4. If it's good enough to win her the primary, then it's good enough. What Bernie is doing

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:12 PM

Apr 2016

is not "good enough" apparently, or he wouldn't be so far behind. And NY IS Bernie's home state, and he's going to LOSE it.

IamMab

(1,359 posts)

6. Yes, because I believe that a Sanders supporter has an "inside line" to Dem party leadership.

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:15 PM

Apr 2016

Do you not even realize how ridiculous your comment sounds?

ETA: Oh, right, and your source is your own comment. Because of course it is.

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)

7. Only for Bernie and Marco is losing a winning strategy.

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:16 PM

Apr 2016

YouDig

(2,280 posts)

8. What does "not good enough" mean?

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:16 PM

Apr 2016

She's going to add to her delegate lead, and she's going to end up with more elected delegates, and then she's going to be the nominee. It's not a matter of perception or "good enough" or whatever.

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)

9. Interesting. That could have a near tie impact on delegates.

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:16 PM

Apr 2016

With how they are divided up around the state. It's going to be a real interesting watch tonight. I may be drinking coffee, instead of wine again. Darn these late nighters.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)

11. Who cares?

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:19 PM

Apr 2016

We have two candidates running and they both will get their share of votes and delegates and we should be happy about that.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)

21. this is the healthy attitute both individually and party wide.

Reply to Dem2 (Reply #11)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:26 PM

Apr 2016

Svafa

(594 posts)

12. Her "home" state.

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:21 PM

Apr 2016

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)

20. His home state...and he loses

Reply to Svafa (Reply #12)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:25 PM

Apr 2016

Svafa

(594 posts)

36. I'm not saying it really is a home state for either of them.

Reply to lunamagica (Reply #20)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:12 PM

Apr 2016

But she clearly only moved to New York to become senator there so she would have something nice to put on her resume for an eventual POTUS run. Every single thing the Clintons do is the result of careful political calculation.

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)

47. It used to be known as carpet bagging. n/t

Reply to Svafa (Reply #36)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:28 PM

Apr 2016

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)

14. Not that it isn't already over, but this is the clear ball game if Clinton takes NY.

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:21 PM

Apr 2016

There is simply no reasonable argument for Sanders if he doesn't take NY.

Then again, I'm not going to claim a Clinton win until the votes are counted. If she wins it's huge.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)

15. This is desperate. If she picks up delegates tonight, he's done.

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:22 PM

Apr 2016

He won't make up ground next week, largely thanks to Maryland and Delaware. I think PA will be very close. CT and RI are basically irrelevant and will also likely be close. At that point, how does he finish ahead in pledged delegates?

You're hoping for utter nonsense.

demwing

(16,916 posts)

26. "You're hoping for utter nonsense"

Reply to Zynx (Reply #15)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:33 PM

Apr 2016

Funny, that's what I keep telling Hillary supporters that think that Hillary will give two shits about progressive principles once elected.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)

29. Maybe as you define them.

Reply to demwing (Reply #26)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:43 PM

Apr 2016

demwing

(16,916 posts)

31. So it depends on what the definition of "is" is?

Reply to Zynx (Reply #29)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:56 PM

Apr 2016

Here come the Clintons, once again making up knew definitions for old words...

WDIM

(1,662 posts)

18. Only because of "voting irregularities" nt

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:24 PM

Apr 2016

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)

19. hopefully below 5% rather than below 9%. would love to see 1%, 2%

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:24 PM

Apr 2016

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)

22. would love to see him win it outright.

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:27 PM

Apr 2016

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)

23. Linking your own bullshit isn't validation for the bullshit.

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:30 PM

Apr 2016

Jeebus.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)

28. I think its what the kid's call ...

Reply to Buzz Clik (Reply #23)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:35 PM

Apr 2016

... a one man "circle jerk".

DCBob

(24,689 posts)

27. LOL.. "not good enough" for Hillary to win??

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:35 PM

Apr 2016

But its good enough for Bernie to lose??

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)

30. Imagine...

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:46 PM

Apr 2016

How it would be if there wasn't a year long Bernie Sanders media blackout... Even with the press ignoring Sanders for so long, he has done this well. Imagine if he had Hillary or Trump level coverage...

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)

32. So, if Hillary wins and only gets a few delegats, Bernie will have a victory party?

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:59 PM

Apr 2016

Can't wait to see it!

Renew Deal

(81,859 posts)

35. You go with that

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:05 PM

Apr 2016

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)

37. Are you some kind of performance artist?

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:47 PM

Apr 2016

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)

38. K&R n/t

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:10 PM

Apr 2016

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)

39. I just heard the guy say it would be difficult for Bernie to gain enough to get it below a 10% n/t

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:12 PM

Apr 2016

wysi

(1,512 posts)

40. Well now...

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:12 PM

Apr 2016

I guess that's not going to happen.

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)

44. Absolutely Not!!!!

Reply to wysi (Reply #40)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:24 PM

Apr 2016

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)

41. They

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:13 PM

Apr 2016

did not say that...

OhZone

(3,212 posts)

42. Hillary = OHYEAH nt

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:19 PM

Apr 2016

Tarc

(10,476 posts)

43. How's 17% workin for ya, McCoy?

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:24 PM

Apr 2016

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)

45. Bwhahahahahaha !!!!!

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:26 PM

Apr 2016

Codeine

(25,586 posts)

46. So we can assume your truly heartfelt concerns for the legitimacy of Clinton's

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:27 PM

Apr 2016

campaign have been assuaged?

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)

48. With 73% of the vote in, Hillary's up by 16. nt

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:28 PM

Apr 2016

LexVegas

(6,063 posts)

49. ...

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Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:29 PM

Apr 2016

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)

50. Rub it in guys. It's fine. It is what MSNBC reported at the time

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:31 PM

Apr 2016

But have your fun nonetheless. You earned it.

still_one

(92,190 posts)

56. That's a cool response

Reply to berni_mccoy (Reply #50)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:18 PM

Apr 2016

Walk away

(9,494 posts)

51. Wow! 75% of the votes in and it's a blow out for Hillary!!!!

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:33 PM

Apr 2016

This is a lot better than anyone thought it would be! What a night!!!

Joob

(1,065 posts)

53. Nice. Good luck to your vision of the democratic party

Reply to Walk away (Reply #51)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:09 PM

Apr 2016

We'll still fight for ours! But, yes.. Was well earned. I'd say she defended her home state..

George II

(67,782 posts)

52. Ooops!

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:06 PM

Apr 2016

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)

54. 88% Reporting - Hillary Clinton 57.4% 104 Bernie Sanders 42.6%

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:10 PM

Apr 2016

still_one

(92,190 posts)

55. This is why it is not prudent to make predictions

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Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:17 PM

Apr 2016

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)

57. I'm raising a single digit. I'll let you guess which one.

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:18 PM

Apr 2016

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)

58. I love posts like these

Reply to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:19 PM

Apr 2016

They make me smile

book_worm

(15,951 posts)

59. Looks like the voters confounded them HRC will win by about 15 points.

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Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:21 PM

Apr 2016

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)

60. Crow. So many ways to eat it...

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Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:23 AM

Apr 2016

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