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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:45 PM Apr 2016

New York is not Hillary's "home state"

I'm so tired of hearing Clinton supporters and TV news talking heads referring to New York as Hillary's home state.
She was born in Illinois.
She went to college in Massachusetts and Connecticut.
She was the First Lady of Arkansas for eight years.
She lived in Washington, D.C. for eight years.

The Clintons only moved to N.Y. after they left the White House so she could run for the U.S. Senate,
and launch her campaign for the Presidency.

(carpetbagger: a political candidate who seeks election in an area where they have no local connections)

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New York is not Hillary's "home state" (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Apr 2016 OP
So in reality, she's lived all over the country ... which broadens one's perspective. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #1
LOL @ "all over the country" nt vintx Apr 2016 #9
Well, more places than Bernie. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #14
In other words, she's not a New Yorker and should never portray herself as such... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #23
The silly stuff that gets you guys going is just too funny. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #25
So why even try to portray her as some native then? Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #27
To make the perpetually disgruntled pull their own hair out! JoePhilly Apr 2016 #30
She was never "from" NY... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #31
Stomp your feet more. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #32
What, are you 12? Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #33
I'm old enough to know which issues actually matter. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #34
Throwing mud at Bernie, hoping it will stick with the help... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #35
What mud did I throw at Bernie? JoePhilly Apr 2016 #37
I am talking about the Hillary camp... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #40
Be careful ... JoePhilly Apr 2016 #41
Do you renounce these, or do you prefer to act like that 12 year old.. Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #42
I need not renounce the straw men you build. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #43
Where's the strawmen? Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #44
Then Bernie is going to lose his home state. LexVegas Apr 2016 #2
+1 auntpurl Apr 2016 #11
+1! IamMab Apr 2016 #26
she lives here, votes here, was elected twice geek tragedy Apr 2016 #3
Good thing Vermont is Bernie's home state. onehandle Apr 2016 #4
And the Bernster left New York almost 50 yrs ago. It's more her state than his Tarc Apr 2016 #5
Yeah but we are still going to vote for her again. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #6
Is Vermont, then, Saners' home state? question everything Apr 2016 #7
Hillary has led an amazing life and has lived and worked in many states. She has every right BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #8
Her entire life in white privilege... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #45
So when she wins tonight, it will be all the more amazing! hamsterjill Apr 2016 #10
Home... disillusioned73 Apr 2016 #12
Which town in Vermont was Bernie Sanders born in? NuclearDem Apr 2016 #13
carpet bagger indeed Rebkeh Apr 2016 #15
I can't help but laugh at stuff like this Blue_Adept Apr 2016 #16
Sure it is! She brought the required carpet, bag, and bought a house just in time to be a Senator! Dragonfli Apr 2016 #17
Quit arguing symantics - Hillary votes in NY and Sanders can't CajunBlazer Apr 2016 #18
So then it will be really impressive when she wins it? Zynx Apr 2016 #19
You must be one of those "issue" people rock Apr 2016 #20
Wait until PA is up. She talked about it being a "2nd home" in 2008 bigbrother05 Apr 2016 #21
My apology: Wall Street is Hillary's home! left-of-center2012 Apr 2016 #22
She has a home... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #24
The cause is right, and the time is now! Ignore the polls and the pundits. Vote for Bernie! jmousso75 Apr 2016 #28
Native New Yorker agrees HockeyMom Apr 2016 #29
She just lives there, that's all. oasis Apr 2016 #36
Thanks, we'll put you down as a "no"... brooklynite Apr 2016 #38
We sent her to the Senate....we're sending her to the White House. msanthrope Apr 2016 #39

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
1. So in reality, she's lived all over the country ... which broadens one's perspective.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:47 PM
Apr 2016

That's a nice quality to have ... and one I had not considered.

So thanks for pointing it out!!!

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
27. So why even try to portray her as some native then?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:52 PM
Apr 2016

Apparently the cognitive dissonance runs deep among the stooges for corporate cash and dirty politics.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
30. To make the perpetually disgruntled pull their own hair out!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:00 PM
Apr 2016

She lives in NY, and was a Senator from NY.

The fact it makes some lose their collective minds is just icing on the cake.

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
31. She was never "from" NY...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:11 PM
Apr 2016

She's a political opportunist who got NY to pander to the Wall Street hacks.

The only "home" she will ever have in NY is with Goldman Sachs. The bank that helped wreck the Greek economy.

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
35. Throwing mud at Bernie, hoping it will stick with the help...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:20 PM
Apr 2016

of corporate media while whining like crybababies when the dirt tactics have been exposed.

In other words, just like Hillary, nothing but a talking head filled with an arrogance of a RWer who have not yet reached Bar Mitzvah age.

I have yet to read any policy substance from a Hillarybot or any post from the same camp that hasn't been filled with republican talking points and mentality to follow. In other words, not a single sign of honesty.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
37. What mud did I throw at Bernie?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:21 PM
Apr 2016

You posted a bunch of middle school personal attacks .... irony, look it up.

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
40. I am talking about the Hillary camp...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:30 PM
Apr 2016

from day 1!
Smears you seem to be gleefully OK with.

Do you denounce the dogwhistle politics of Hillary? Do you renounce her campaigns accusations of sexism and racism in the Bernie camp? Do you denounce her using the Sandy Hook victims as a political smear campaign against Bernie? The BS poutrage over his tax returns (the same think that Hillary shouldn't give any of the transcripts from Wall Street, but Bernie to be audited up his arse)
Do you renounce her endorsement from Wall Street, oil companies, NRA lobbyists, her dirty campaign against Obama in 2008, her ties to the private prison industry and the Saudis?

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
41. Be careful ...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:33 PM
Apr 2016

... you get up much higher on that high horse and you'll get a nose bleed.

I did get a kick out of your self righteous demands for me to "renounce" things.

I've known Baptist preachers who would love your style.

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
42. Do you renounce these, or do you prefer to act like that 12 year old..
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:36 PM
Apr 2016

And deflect?

But your choice of words are entertaining representing the camp who has been falsely claiming victimhood when lies have been debunked.
When will you denounce the false accusations from the Hillary camp on racism and sexism?

Care to take a look in the mirror, or do you prefer to play in the moral sewer where DNC likes to keep things?

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
44. Where's the strawmen?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:50 PM
Apr 2016

No strawmen here. Just a few pointers.

Why do you support the same tactics against Bernie as used against Obama in 2008?

Are you really that naive to think for a secund that Hillary is the one of the two who have ran a clean campaign?

Do you live so far in the bubble of DWS and the smear merchant in corporate media that you can't see straight?

It's hillariously funny how Hillary supportetrs throw dirt at Bernie and claims victimhood when being called out on it, and then act like ignorants when being confronted with it. It's almost as funny as when Hillary went insane towards a Greenpeace reporter for being a Bernie surrogate out to smear her.

And look at that! Shows that when she denies having taken money from Big Oil, she went to a fundraiser with an old oil lobbyist.
When she accused Bernie of siding with the arms manufacturers against the Sandy Hook victims, she had another fundrqaiser with a former lobbyist from NRA!
So let's talk about smear tactics and the role of media in all of this.

She has represented the merchants of death far better than Bernie has. But some people never grow up and refuse to to give up their safety blanket and insists on another four or eight years of Bill & Hillary in Office.

I wonder if you can conjure up anything remotely as dirty as Hillary and her surrogates have done from the Bernie camp. I wonder if you can find a single dirty tactics from Bernie that you need your queen to be spared for (after all, she's a woman, and calling her out on anything is sexist...

I also wonder if the 120 000 attempted voters purged will be counted in this primary.


 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
3. she lives here, votes here, was elected twice
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:47 PM
Apr 2016

with overwhelming majorities to the Senate from here.

She's been a New Yorker 15 years longer than Sanders has been a Democrat.

question everything

(47,479 posts)
7. Is Vermont, then, Saners' home state?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:51 PM
Apr 2016

Is Illinois Obama's?

Real pathetic how people here are trying to find anything to smear Clinton.

You know, it is spring in many parts of the country. And, I am sure there are plenty of books that you'd like to read (you do, right?) so why not take time off from this site until... well, tomorrow?

Or until after the California primaries?

BreakfastClub

(765 posts)
8. Hillary has led an amazing life and has lived and worked in many states. She has every right
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:53 PM
Apr 2016

to consider New York her home. Sorry if you don't like it, but you don't get to decide where her home is.

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
45. Her entire life in white privilege...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:03 PM
Apr 2016

in the upper echelons in society.
Never been racially profiled (though she has been using the dog whistle as well as bait to demonize her opponent for political gain)
Never been harassed by cops, never had to worry about whether she will have a home or a job, or food or medicines next week) Yet still she claims to resonate better with poor, minority working families who have at least one member of the family falling victim of Bill's mass incarceration "solution".

She has lived a very privileged life far from the struggles of average people. Never have she seen the bombs she and her dept. sent to blow up Syria and Libya. Never will she be forced to drink unfiltered water, risking dysenthery like the victims of her husbands' sanctions against the people of Iraq did in the 90s, resulting in a half a million deaths.
Never has she or will she have to worry about the next meal.

And the 150 million $ she took from Wall Street was from "hard work", unlike Bernie who has been feeding himself from the public trough being corrupted like the rest of them (unlike Hillary who would never let 150 million dollars influence her relations to business and finance and will off course push for policies AGAINST her donors on behalf of the voters and union workers)...

If she calls New York home, then she shouldn't call Illinois or Arkansas the same.

I guess if you are rich and powerful you are above the law. If you are black or latino, you risk losing everything you have even if you are innocent.

I suspect that Hillary like so many of her colleagues suffer from Affluenza and lack of real human emotions.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
16. I can't help but laugh at stuff like this
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:14 PM
Apr 2016

It's reaching so hard to make a thing out of something just to add to the overall wall of crap that keeps getting built.

The Bullshit Mountain is being built once more.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
18. Quit arguing symantics - Hillary votes in NY and Sanders can't
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:31 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary is a resident of NY, Sanders isn't

"Home state" means different things to different people.

One person was born in NY and left the state at 18 (as soon as he could) and has been lived in Vermont for 50+ years.

The other person voluntarily became a resident of NY in early 2001 and has lived there ever since and served as the state's Senator for 6 years.

Which person has greater claim to to the State of New York; which one can call the state "home"?

I have my opinion, but who the hell cares?

There real question is: Who will win NY?

Hillary Clinton

rock

(13,218 posts)
20. You must be one of those "issue" people
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:35 PM
Apr 2016

Yeah, the real issues like; Does she cheat at dominoes? Is NY her home state?

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
21. Wait until PA is up. She talked about it being a "2nd home" in 2008
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:48 PM
Apr 2016

Recalling visits as a child.

Guess she's waiting until after NY to avoid confusion for those paying attention.

 

jmousso75

(71 posts)
28. The cause is right, and the time is now! Ignore the polls and the pundits. Vote for Bernie!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:16 PM
Apr 2016

Thank you for the post. I am so sick of hearing this crap. All points correct!

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
29. Native New Yorker agrees
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:55 PM
Apr 2016

Born in, raised, in and spent 58 years in NY. Far more than Hillary can say. Lived in Florida for the past 9 years (now moving back). I count New York, as my home, where my roots are, where my children and grandchildren are. I know Floridians would hate me for saying this but one cannot erase all those decades, or change the place of your birth. I am not a Floridian simply because I hang my hat here.

Hillary. New Yorker? Because this is where she hangs her hat? No. (Despicable) Donald Trump? Unfortunately, Yes, a New Yorker.

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