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Will Hillary Clinton turn into a Richard Nixon? (Original Post) reddread Apr 2016 OP
Crossed that threshold ages ago. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #1
The hourly "Hillary is a Republican" thread. Like clockwork. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #2
Well-fitting shoe ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #19
No, Nixon ENDED the draft, created the EPA, signed the Clean Water and Air Acts, passed Title IX. Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #3
In many ways Nixon was a competent president. ... spin Apr 2016 #13
Nixon (a) had some domestic accomplishments but (b) was a war hawk (c) caught being dishonest and Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #14
Dwight D. Eisenhower warned us of the dangers of the military industrial complex ... spin Apr 2016 #15
We have to stop talking about Republicans with a more progressive domestic agenda than the Democrat Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #18
Very true. (n/t) spin Apr 2016 #20
But, also telling how dangerous she is if she was elected. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #30
She'd have to move left whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #4
^^ this ^^ amborin Apr 2016 #24
I was going to post the same comment. nt m-lekktor Apr 2016 #34
Will Bernie Sanders turn into Bozo The Clown? onehandle Apr 2016 #5
lol nt BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #7
She will turn into George W Bush. Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #6
hillary is gw bush lite 4ricksren Apr 2016 #46
She's already Bush with Cheney's brain in place DJ13 Apr 2016 #56
You really should do a little research. You do your rep here no favors with these posts. n/t Lucinda Apr 2016 #8
why do you dread red? snooper2 Apr 2016 #9
Deep deep thoughts. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #10
Hillary has been called Nixon in a pantsuit for good reason. (n/t) spin Apr 2016 #11
Naw, she is far more conservative. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #33
Unfortunately for Nixon he was wrong when he thought he was above the law. ... spin Apr 2016 #40
Hillary wants to move those goalposts reddread Apr 2016 #41
When you live in an oligarchy there are a select few that the rule of law ... spin Apr 2016 #49
She'd have to win 2 terms first. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #12
Will DU turn into a Naderite kindergarten? arely staircase Apr 2016 #16
Will Bernie turn into a Fidel Castro? kstewart33 Apr 2016 #17
You need some basic civics lessons. 99Forever Apr 2016 #26
Whoa there. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #53
He must be spending much of the contributions... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #52
Wil Bernie Sanders turn into Jean-Bedel Bokassa? KingFlorez Apr 2016 #21
She can't get that honest. 99Forever Apr 2016 #22
It already happened. She's a hawk, friends with Kissinger, and has an enemie's list jfern Apr 2016 #23
But she can't open up China and she -hates- Iran HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #25
You obviously dont know a damn thing about Nixon. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #27
Amen to that. Zorro Apr 2016 #32
The Clinton's carried on his tradition of deregulation. basselope Apr 2016 #28
I can totally see her, knocking back the scotch and glowering over her enemies list! n/t brewens Apr 2016 #29
Will reddread turn into Lee Atwater or has it already happened? emulatorloo Apr 2016 #31
Nah. Atwater was an evil genius. Reddread ... well... isn't. Reddread's more like Squinch Apr 2016 #35
The lies and deception, yes. Ideologically? she'd have to move left. Broward Apr 2016 #36
Needs a watch with shifty eyes. chknltl Apr 2016 #37
omg reddread Apr 2016 #39
She'd need some counseling and therapy to do so tularetom Apr 2016 #38
Believe it or not...... Splinter Cell Apr 2016 #42
those 60's radicals were so thin skinned reddread Apr 2016 #43
Secrecy, paranoia, enemies lists, lawlessness ... senz Apr 2016 #44
Kissinger reddread Apr 2016 #45
Certainly not, Nixon was a liberal Republican. ozone_man Apr 2016 #47
in public reddread Apr 2016 #48
Will she announce "peace with honor" as a goal? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #50
for the right honorarium reddread Apr 2016 #51
Hillary "Golden Sacks" Clinton has already surpassed Nixon. She's the master. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #54
Nixon was more liberal than her. PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #55
kick & rec #5 Vote2016 Apr 2016 #57

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
3. No, Nixon ENDED the draft, created the EPA, signed the Clean Water and Air Acts, passed Title IX.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:55 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary would mock all of this progressive legislation as "unrealistic."

spin

(17,493 posts)
13. In many ways Nixon was a competent president. ...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:03 PM
Apr 2016

Unfortunately his character faults ruined his legacy.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
14. Nixon (a) had some domestic accomplishments but (b) was a war hawk (c) caught being dishonest and
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:09 PM
Apr 2016

trying to cover it up.

Why does that sound familiar?

spin

(17,493 posts)
15. Dwight D. Eisenhower warned us of the dangers of the military industrial complex ...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:27 PM
Apr 2016

in a speach in 1961.


Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.
http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html


Of course the above is just an excerpt from his speech. The entire speech is well worth reading.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
18. We have to stop talking about Republicans with a more progressive domestic agenda than the Democrat
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:38 PM
Apr 2016

who is the current front runner. It's too depressing.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
30. But, also telling how dangerous she is if she was elected.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:16 PM
Apr 2016

She is vile combination of programmed (poll and focus group based) responses, yet having no sense of introspection or analysis.

She is as dangerous as Ted Cruz as president.

 

4ricksren

(72 posts)
46. hillary is gw bush lite
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:29 PM
Apr 2016


hillary is gw bush lite, pandering to multi-trillion-dollar-taxpayer-financed-right-wing war machine in the false mantle of global necessity

only i wouldn't think hillary would be much fun having a lite-beer with

spin

(17,493 posts)
40. Unfortunately for Nixon he was wrong when he thought he was above the law. ...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:35 PM
Apr 2016


Hillary also believes she is above the law and chances are she is right.

spin

(17,493 posts)
49. When you live in an oligarchy there are a select few that the rule of law ...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:36 PM
Apr 2016

does not apply to.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
17. Will Bernie turn into a Fidel Castro?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:33 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie said that Fidel's overthrow of the Cuban government excited Bernie and launched his foray into politics (youtube video). So why not?

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
26. You need some basic civics lessons.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:13 PM
Apr 2016

If you don't know he difference between Communism and Democratic Socialism, you aren't to be taken seriously. I know 4th graders with a better grasp on types of government than you do.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
53. Whoa there.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:47 PM
Apr 2016

BA political science and American history, MBA, Phd, paid strategist in my 20s for 2 Congressional campaigns, and as a college student sued the state University system twice, on civil rights issues and won one of them, in Alabama no less.

Don't let snark pass as ignorance. And consider for a moment, that Sanders' praise of Fidel Castro is one of the many parts of Bernie's biography that the Republicans will use to absolutely destroy him in the general election were he to get the nomination which he most assuredly will not.

Do a little reading of what happened during the Cuban Missile Crisis, the role that Castro played in his partnership with Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev that put nuclear missile sites in Cuba with the capacity of killing one third of the American population, and maybe you might get my point. And don't give me the tiring 'young people don't care about that' because the vast majority of the voting population will care very much about that when the Republicans are done with it. Especially the elderly, the most reliable voters, who remember that crisis, scared to death that we came that close to nuclear war.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
21. Wil Bernie Sanders turn into Jean-Bedel Bokassa?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:08 PM
Apr 2016

Perhaps that bird told him he is destined to be the monarch of the United States Empire.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
23. It already happened. She's a hawk, friends with Kissinger, and has an enemie's list
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:11 PM
Apr 2016

Also she deleted a lot more than 18 1/2 minutes worth of emails.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
25. But she can't open up China and she -hates- Iran
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:13 PM
Apr 2016

which I suppose is currently about the same level enemy China was

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
35. Nah. Atwater was an evil genius. Reddread ... well... isn't. Reddread's more like
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:20 PM
Apr 2016

"The Brain" from Pinky and The Brain.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
38. She'd need some counseling and therapy to do so
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:25 PM
Apr 2016

She's even more insecure and paranoid than the nutty Nixon.

But there are a lot of parallels.

We'll know for sure when she proclaims that she is not a crook.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
44. Secrecy, paranoia, enemies lists, lawlessness ...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:00 PM
Apr 2016

she's got a pretty good start on it.

However, there are some differences: Nixon wasn't a corporate sell-out and he seemed responsive to environmental concerns.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
45. Kissinger
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:12 PM
Apr 2016

traditional values.
sacred bonds.
bedrock principles.
I dont think Nixon was a religious opportunist.

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