2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWill Hillary Clinton turn into a Richard Nixon?
or has it already happened?
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)Hillary would mock all of this progressive legislation as "unrealistic."
spin
(17,493 posts)Unfortunately his character faults ruined his legacy.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)trying to cover it up.
Why does that sound familiar?
spin
(17,493 posts)in a speach in 1961.
Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.
This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.
http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html
Of course the above is just an excerpt from his speech. The entire speech is well worth reading.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)who is the current front runner. It's too depressing.
spin
(17,493 posts)ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)She is vile combination of programmed (poll and focus group based) responses, yet having no sense of introspection or analysis.
She is as dangerous as Ted Cruz as president.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)or is that complete bullshit as well?
BreakfastClub
(765 posts)Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)She has the NEOCON thing down pat.
4ricksren
(72 posts)hillary is gw bush lite, pandering to multi-trillion-dollar-taxpayer-financed-right-wing war machine in the false mantle of global necessity
only i wouldn't think hillary would be much fun having a lite-beer with
DJ13
(23,671 posts)Thats truly frightening if you think about it.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)spin
(17,493 posts)ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)spin
(17,493 posts)Hillary also believes she is above the law and chances are she is right.
reddread
(6,896 posts)without a doubt
spin
(17,493 posts)does not apply to.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)So after she does win two terms, come back and ask again.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)or has it already happened?
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Bernie said that Fidel's overthrow of the Cuban government excited Bernie and launched his foray into politics (youtube video). So why not?
99Forever
(14,524 posts)If you don't know he difference between Communism and Democratic Socialism, you aren't to be taken seriously. I know 4th graders with a better grasp on types of government than you do.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)BA political science and American history, MBA, Phd, paid strategist in my 20s for 2 Congressional campaigns, and as a college student sued the state University system twice, on civil rights issues and won one of them, in Alabama no less.
Don't let snark pass as ignorance. And consider for a moment, that Sanders' praise of Fidel Castro is one of the many parts of Bernie's biography that the Republicans will use to absolutely destroy him in the general election were he to get the nomination which he most assuredly will not.
Do a little reading of what happened during the Cuban Missile Crisis, the role that Castro played in his partnership with Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev that put nuclear missile sites in Cuba with the capacity of killing one third of the American population, and maybe you might get my point. And don't give me the tiring 'young people don't care about that' because the vast majority of the voting population will care very much about that when the Republicans are done with it. Especially the elderly, the most reliable voters, who remember that crisis, scared to death that we came that close to nuclear war.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)On guns and bullets to overtake 1600 Pennsylvania Ave
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Perhaps that bird told him he is destined to be the monarch of the United States Empire.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)She makes Tricky Dick look like a choir boy.
jfern
(5,204 posts)Also she deleted a lot more than 18 1/2 minutes worth of emails.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)which I suppose is currently about the same level enemy China was
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Zorro
(15,740 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)brewens
(13,589 posts)emulatorloo
(44,130 posts)Squinch
(50,950 posts)"The Brain" from Pinky and The Brain.
Broward
(1,976 posts)chknltl
(10,558 posts)forgot about those!
tularetom
(23,664 posts)She's even more insecure and paranoid than the nutty Nixon.
But there are a lot of parallels.
We'll know for sure when she proclaims that she is not a crook.
Splinter Cell
(703 posts)Likely worse.
reddread
(6,896 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)she's got a pretty good start on it.
However, there are some differences: Nixon wasn't a corporate sell-out and he seemed responsive to environmental concerns.
traditional values.
sacred bonds.
bedrock principles.
I dont think Nixon was a religious opportunist.
ozone_man
(4,825 posts)Hillary is a center Republican.