2016 Postmortem

matt819

(10,749 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:48 PM Apr 2016

Perhaps I'm being too sensitive

Here's a current headline in the NYT: Bernie Sanders Already Turning His Attention to Pennsylvania - http://www.nytimes.com/live/new-york-primary-2016/bernie-sanders-already-turning-his-attention-to-pennsylvania/

Am I being sensitive? As I read that headline, I infer negativity, i.e., Sanders is giving up on NY, Sanders doesn't care about NY, NY is in Sanders' rear view mirror, etc.

What do they want him to do? Hang around? If he wins, he can celebrate and be interviewed in PA. If he loses, well, he loses. Shit happens. It's not as if this is the general election. There are numerous states where primaries have yet to be held. Of course he's going to move on to those states to maximize his presence on the ground.

Or I'm just whining and see anti-Bernie sentiment and Sanders Derangement Syndrome everywhere.

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Perhaps I'm being too sensitive (Original Post) matt819 Apr 2016 OP

The Times has been on choie Apr 2016 #1

They've been doing this to Bernie forever. To make him look bad they use anything they can. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #2

If one thinks they are going to win the NY primary. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #3

Win or lose nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #8

Will do on the quoting. Thanks. Nt NCTraveler Apr 2016 #12

What that I do not remember if they were in VT nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #13

Roger. Nt NCTraveler Apr 2016 #19

Personally I would say yes jcgoldie Apr 2016 #4

It was not turning attention to that bugged ne matt819 Apr 2016 #21

Every politcal operative knows that in the primaries it is best to be in the next state JimDandy Apr 2016 #5

No, they have a purpose to it. Hillary group says hes given up. Its all just bs to make litlbilly Apr 2016 #6

Sanders has done that with every primary nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #7

But not the caucuses? He stayed in Iowa. bettyellen Apr 2016 #17

I actually read it intended as... JSup Apr 2016 #9

I'm over-sensitive too. pat_k Apr 2016 #10

they didn't let the press photograph him getting on the plane. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #11

There is only so much time for campaigning. Marrah_G Apr 2016 #14

But there is always a couple spare days to jet off to Rome n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #16

Because that is the same thing.... Marrah_G Apr 2016 #18

i take it as more positive. We know he will lose NY JI7 Apr 2016 #15

where he will suffer another resounding loss. eom MoonRiver Apr 2016 #20

choie

(4,111 posts)

1. The Times has been on

Reply to matt819 (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:53 PM

Apr 2016

Clinton's side from since Bernie entered the race. You're not being too sensitive!

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)

2. They've been doing this to Bernie forever. To make him look bad they use anything they can.

Reply to matt819 (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:54 PM

Apr 2016

He is going on to PA and other states. What can he do today in NY...nothing.

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)

3. If one thinks they are going to win the NY primary.

Reply to matt819 (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:55 PM

Apr 2016

They stick around for a speech. The momentum alone would make it worth it.

" If he wins, he can celebrate and be interviewed in PA. If he loses, well, he loses. Shit happens."

We are kind of past the "shit happens" phase.

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)

8. Win or lose

Reply to NCTraveler (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:03 PM

Apr 2016

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They have done that with every primary. Jesus on a pogo stick, serious. We were checking returns in San Diego at the press pit while recording the speech. I guess those of us not playing gotcha noticed a while ago. Iirc the only exception was VT, but do not quote me please.

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)

12. Will do on the quoting. Thanks. Nt

Reply to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:51 PM

Apr 2016

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)

13. What that I do not remember if they were in VT

Reply to NCTraveler (Reply #12)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:52 PM

Apr 2016

Or not? I don't. But I know they have done that for every other fucking primary

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)

19. Roger. Nt

Reply to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #13)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:10 PM

Apr 2016

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)

4. Personally I would say yes

Reply to matt819 (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:56 PM

Apr 2016

"turning attention to" does not imply anything negative except what you are reading into it.

matt819

(10,749 posts)

21. It was not turning attention to that bugged ne

Reply to jcgoldie (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:18 PM

Apr 2016

It was "already," as if he were done with NY, that he couldn't be bothered to stick around. Probably petty, but it bugged me.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)

5. Every politcal operative knows that in the primaries it is best to be in the next state

Reply to matt819 (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:57 PM

Apr 2016

up to bat when the results come, because if you win, when you give your thank you speech there, it helps genearate enthusiasm in that next state, especially if it's at a televised rally in front of tens of thousands of people! If you lose, well, you are already where you need to be.

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)

6. No, they have a purpose to it. Hillary group says hes given up. Its all just bs to make

Reply to matt819 (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:58 PM

Apr 2016

Bernie people give up. It will not work.

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)

7. Sanders has done that with every primary

Reply to matt819 (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:00 PM

Apr 2016

Serious.

He was here in San Diego diego during returns in another state. He was not in Muchigan when those came in. Check that yourself

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)

17. But not the caucuses? He stayed in Iowa.

Reply to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:01 PM

Apr 2016

JSup

(740 posts)

9. I actually read it intended as...

Reply to matt819 (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:04 PM

Apr 2016

...'Sanders Moving on to Next Target'.

I can't tell if you're being 'over-sensitive' to it, though, cos it really could be meant either way. Funny how we all, as humans, can read things differently.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)

10. I'm over-sensitive too.

Reply to matt819 (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:21 PM

Apr 2016

I saw this WaPo Headline

New York primary: Clinton and Trump look to cement front-runner status

And then looked at link
clinton-and-trump-hope-ny-primary-cements-their-front-runner-status

And thought. Hey, why'd they change "hope ny primary cements" to "look to cement"? To make it sound more like "it's curtains for Bernie"?

Than I thought. Hey, you're reading to much into this shit. It's trivial compared to some of the more blatantly damaging memes the media noise machine has pushed.