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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:15 PM Apr 2016

Reports of extremely low turnout in Williamsburg, Brooklyn


Benchmark Politics (@benchmarkpol)

4/19/16, 4:07 PM
Reports of extremely low turnout in West Brooklyn, namely Williamsburg. One of the few areas in NYC pro Sanders. pic.twitter.com/0CSLieGqsM


https://twitter.com/benchmarkpol/status/722516947879993344?refsrc=email&s=11

Williamsburg is Hipster Central.
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Reports of extremely low turnout in Williamsburg, Brooklyn (Original Post) geek tragedy Apr 2016 OP
too hip to vote hill2016 Apr 2016 #1
we were at dinner and a couple of 20-somethings were geek tragedy Apr 2016 #4
I was at a dinner Sunday hill2016 Apr 2016 #10
I swear it is the Selfie Revolution. That's the main thing. R B Garr Apr 2016 #56
Today may be beard trimming day? CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #26
+1! nt IamMab Apr 2016 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Bonobo Apr 2016 #58
They were probably lined up for a limited release artisanal shaving cream. onehandle Apr 2016 #2
They're all at Coachella, dood. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #3
Hmmm TMontoya Apr 2016 #5
Don't forget, Williamsburg is also Hasidic Jewish territory... brooklynite Apr 2016 #6
is that community primarily registered as D or R or neither? geek tragedy Apr 2016 #9
Hmmm you are aware there is a republican primary as well nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #11
I live in Brooklyn, so I've had pictures of Ted Cruz and John Kasich geek tragedy Apr 2016 #15
Just making sure nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #16
NYC has very few Republicans. Bronx Republicans geek tragedy Apr 2016 #20
And they vote at lower rates than San Diego nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #24
to that point... thesquanderer Apr 2016 #42
They may be largely non-political brooklynite Apr 2016 #12
that makes sense. Dov Hikind is Borough Park, right? nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #19
Correct brooklynite Apr 2016 #25
if they vote, that should be Clinton territory, but geek tragedy Apr 2016 #28
Hasidic Williamsburg is in the same Council District as I am ("Brownstone Brooklyn") brooklynite Apr 2016 #36
And these days is getting ready for Passover question everything Apr 2016 #18
Is there where they place strings from building to building to create a safe space or something? snooper2 Apr 2016 #59
Not expert, but I think that this is "eruv" and is used for the Sabbath question everything Apr 2016 #63
Shenanigans AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #7
Is that a band? Are they playing today? Is that where all the kids are? Squinch Apr 2016 #8
Is that restaurant with all the goofy shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks? Ace Rothstein Apr 2016 #32
I'll pistol-whip the next person who says "shenanigans!" eom IamMab Apr 2016 #43
Ha! Thank you for the Super Troopers reference. LonePirate Apr 2016 #46
Moral victory SheenaR Apr 2016 #13
hahahah stupid millennials Goblinmonger Apr 2016 #14
What a gross thread. Marr Apr 2016 #17
Same can be said about Sanders question everything Apr 2016 #22
Why would they vote for Hillary? She said they aren't Democrats. Matt_in_STL Apr 2016 #62
It makes ya sad, don't it? Maybe those who WOULD have voted were disheartened after reading DU. nt cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #23
isn't this supposed to be what Republicans do? not Democrats TheDormouse Apr 2016 #27
Thank you. It's unreal that Democrats celebrate low turnout. jillan Apr 2016 #44
It's what conservatives do. frylock Apr 2016 #49
Maybe they'll be able to bring themselves to do the hard work WhiteTara Apr 2016 #37
Yes, of course they're all just lazy and less intelligent than you, WhiteTara. Marr Apr 2016 #38
Who said they were lazy or less intelligent? WhiteTara Apr 2016 #45
Um... you did? Marr Apr 2016 #50
That is what this is for... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #51
Here is the (laughable) source: Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #21
People do have jobs--some may have voted before work or will after work TheDormouse Apr 2016 #29
Williamsburg isn't all that hipster despite what people think thebeautifulstruggle Apr 2016 #30
Agreed. snot Apr 2016 #35
Reports of Independents clogging up polling places insisting on ballots..... suppressing Dem turnout bettyellen Apr 2016 #31
Damn those Independants SwampG8r Apr 2016 #53
I can't respect trying to rewrite the rules at this late date. The GOP would have to cooperate to bettyellen Apr 2016 #54
Spending everybody's tax dollars so a few people can have a party SwampG8r Apr 2016 #55
pretending we can open primaries without the GOP's cooperation is totally dishonest..... bettyellen Apr 2016 #61
I guess there's a difference RandySF Apr 2016 #33
Too bad... Mike Nelson Apr 2016 #34
Reports of HIGH turnout in Queens. Just spoke to a poll worker who said it's been crazy busy. jillan Apr 2016 #39
what part of Queens? nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #41
I didn't ask her - lol. I'm calling from Az to gotv in NY not to interrogate people. jillan Apr 2016 #47
okay, just that Queens is a lot of separate communities that were only combined fairly recently. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #48
thanks for doing your part today! Admirable. bettyellen Apr 2016 #52
False. Just the opposite. closeupready Apr 2016 #57
ok. Still feeling confident in your side of our bet? nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #68
CNN just reported that entire buildings are no longer on the voting list, not sure if this ... slipslidingaway Apr 2016 #60
lol @ Hipster Central melman Apr 2016 #64
Now the 120,000 voter purge in that area, once mysterious, is explained! Dragonfli Apr 2016 #65
"Problems at Williamsburg Polling Station Just One of Many Headaches For Voters" suffragette Apr 2016 #66
multiple polling locations in Williamsburg area nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #67
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
4. we were at dinner and a couple of 20-somethings were
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:17 PM
Apr 2016

a couple of tables over saying "ooh, look at my Bernie selfie" from a rally that afternoon.

Apparently I made a face.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
56. I swear it is the Selfie Revolution. That's the main thing.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:41 PM
Apr 2016

Internet cred with some cool Facebook pictures.

Response to CorkySt.Clair (Reply #26)

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. is that community primarily registered as D or R or neither?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:21 PM
Apr 2016

I know the upstate Satmar are Democrats, but the ultra-Orthodox tend to be R-leaning in the city, moreso than Reform or Conservative.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. I live in Brooklyn, so I've had pictures of Ted Cruz and John Kasich
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:25 PM
Apr 2016

trying to make matzo on the evening news.

Yes, fully aware.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
20. NYC has very few Republicans. Bronx Republicans
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:27 PM
Apr 2016

are the most overrepresented people in either party at the national conventions.

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
42. to that point...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:40 PM
Apr 2016

a reporter at CNN was reporting from Borough Hall (somewhat south of Williamsburg, closer to the Brooklyn Bridge) and just said that, so far, the number of Republicans voting today at that precinct was 100-and-something... number of dems was 1800+.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
28. if they vote, that should be Clinton territory, but
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:30 PM
Apr 2016

who knows since the politics there are ... not my cup of tea

brooklynite

(94,589 posts)
36. Hasidic Williamsburg is in the same Council District as I am ("Brownstone Brooklyn")
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:36 PM
Apr 2016

Represented by Steve Levin (Carl Levin's nephew) who I'd guess is reform Jewish.

For the purpose of the Presidential Primary, they're in the 7th-CD: Nydia Velasquez.

question everything

(47,486 posts)
18. And these days is getting ready for Passover
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:26 PM
Apr 2016

Make sure there are no bread crumbs anywhere, clean the house, replace every day dishes with Passover ones and cook, cook, cook.

question everything

(47,486 posts)
63. Not expert, but I think that this is "eruv" and is used for the Sabbath
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:06 PM
Apr 2016

that begins on Friday sundown and ends Saturday sundown. The "safe place" is to move during the Sabbath, carry items without violation the commandment of not working on the Sabbath.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eruv

is a ritual enclosure that some Jewish communities, and especially Orthodox Jewish communities, construct in their neighborhoods as a way to permit Jewish residents or visitors to carry certain objects outside their own homes on Sabbath and Yom Kippur. An eruv accomplishes this by integrating a number of private and public properties into one larger private domain, thereby avoiding restrictions on carrying objects from the private to the public domain on Sabbath and holidays.

The eruv allows these religious Jews to, among other things, carry house keys, tissues, medicines, or babies with them, and use strollers and canes. The presence or absence of an eruv thus especially affects the lives of people with limited mobility and those responsible for taking care of babies and young children.

=====

Hey no one ever says that rituals, of all types, have reason or logic..


 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
43. I'll pistol-whip the next person who says "shenanigans!" eom
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:41 PM
Apr 2016

ETA: it's a movie quote, jury. Just an FYI.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
17. What a gross thread.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:26 PM
Apr 2016

A bunch of Hillary supporters laughing about excluding people who would have been new voters.

Don't whine about millennials if Hillary gets the nomination and loses the general. This attitude you're displaying here has been showing up all too often with the Hillary crowd.

question everything

(47,486 posts)
22. Same can be said about Sanders
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:28 PM
Apr 2016

If he wins the nomination and loses the general because many of his young supporters won't bother to vote in November.

Actually it is worse. 30% of the Sanderistas said they will not vote for Hillary, but only 15% of Hillary supporters say they won't vote for Sanders.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
62. Why would they vote for Hillary? She said they aren't Democrats.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:04 PM
Apr 2016

Maybe they'll vote for someone more aligned with them then?

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
37. Maybe they'll be able to bring themselves to do the hard work
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:38 PM
Apr 2016

of registering before November's election. It is a well known fact that 20 somethings often find other things to do rather than do the unsexy thing of getting in a line and casting a ballot, or worse, bothering to register to vote. I assume that civics classes don't teach about voting anymore. Of course, poli sci is really boring too.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
45. Who said they were lazy or less intelligent?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:42 PM
Apr 2016

You seem to have been able to handle the hard work of registering and voting. But they are known to care not as much and I don't think that civics teaches voting responsibilities anymore. And I realize you are being nasty to me, but that's on you, not me.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
50. Um... you did?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:52 PM
Apr 2016

You unambiguously implied that millennials are lazy and poorly educated in your previous post.

Spare me the word parsing and martyr act, if you don't mind.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
51. That is what this is for...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:53 PM
Apr 2016


Their official campaign slogan is...
Hillary, for when you want them to eat cake.
 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
21. Here is the (laughable) source:
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:28 PM
Apr 2016

Benchmark Politics ?@benchmarkpol 14m14 minutes ago
@MATTCORREIA88 Buddy lives in the area, and I found other reports on twitter/reddit saying the same thing. 0 high turnout reports too.

 
30. Williamsburg isn't all that hipster despite what people think
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:32 PM
Apr 2016

used to be

every block has new apartment complexes building up, that rivals the most expensive parts of NYC

Hipsters are more into Bushwick these days

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
31. Reports of Independents clogging up polling places insisting on ballots..... suppressing Dem turnout
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:33 PM
Apr 2016

this is what is has come to!

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
53. Damn those Independants
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:32 PM
Apr 2016

What nerve trying to take part in the political process that their dollars in taxes pay for

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
54. I can't respect trying to rewrite the rules at this late date. The GOP would have to cooperate to
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:38 PM
Apr 2016

allow a true "open primary" which means it is not happening today. There seems to be total ignorance of the fact that there is a process they could have been participating in all along. I'd like the people incorrectly taken off the rolls to be able to vote- but also hope they realize the way to preserve their right is to show up for the smaller elections. And to lobby for the needed changes.


This was a last minute attempt to de-legitimize an election because they knew it was lost. It's bullshit, and I am glad the judge is not having it.

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
55. Spending everybody's tax dollars so a few people can have a party
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:40 PM
Apr 2016

No not going to wash you want my tax money to pay for it you have to open it to everyone

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
61. pretending we can open primaries without the GOP's cooperation is totally dishonest.....
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:02 PM
Apr 2016

but it is how GDP rolls these days. I am floored that people would think it is cool to open only the Dme primary to anyone- including Republicans, at the last minute. Nope.

RandySF

(58,885 posts)
33. I guess there's a difference
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:35 PM
Apr 2016

I guess there's a difference between cheering at a rally with you bros and picking up a pen to vote.

Mike Nelson

(9,958 posts)
34. Too bad...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:36 PM
Apr 2016

...I wish everyone would vote (Democratic, of course)! They are saying high turnout on TV. But they always say that and it turns out to be Republicans. Still, they did say high turnout in Harlem, which I think must lean Democratic

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
48. okay, just that Queens is a lot of separate communities that were only combined fairly recently.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:44 PM
Apr 2016

Flushing, Astoria, Jackson Heights etc.

Demographics vary greatly by location

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
60. CNN just reported that entire buildings are no longer on the voting list, not sure if this ...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:59 PM
Apr 2016

is in the Williamsburg section or not.





Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
65. Now the 120,000 voter purge in that area, once mysterious, is explained!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:18 PM
Apr 2016

Great election fraud brockbro! Bush would be proud of his adopted sister!

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
66. "Problems at Williamsburg Polling Station Just One of Many Headaches For Voters"
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:21 PM
Apr 2016

Is that the same Williamsburg that has had reports of polling station problems?

http://bedfordandbowery.com/2016/04/problems-at-east-williamsburg-polling-station-just-one-of-many-headaches-for-new-york-state-primary-voters/

By the time we arrived just after 12:30 pm, the community center section of the NYCHA public housing complex was buzzing with voters, most of them elderly and many of them Spanish-speaking. Hines, who sat behind a table where she was helping check voters in and verify their registration, informed us that the late opening, “Wasn’t nobody’s fault here.”

According to the site coordinator, Dwain Woods, when the volunteers arrived at 5 am this morning, they found that the site was locked. “Housing didn’t open the building,” he said, referring to NYCHA. According to Woods, someone finally showed up with a key and volunteers were eventually able to open up the polls by 7:30 am. When asked if the experience was frustrating he said, “Yes, but now it’s smooth.”

Unfortunately what might seem like a small snag could have potentially put out dozens or more voters. And across the city, there have been a number of problems. There’s the potentially confusing ballot design thanks to “antiquated New York law,” and the issue of broke-ass machines. Ugh. On top of that, New York has some of the most restrictive voting laws in the country (including no Election-Day registration), potentially disenfranchising a huge number of otherwise totally eligible voters for really no good reason at all.

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