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abumbyanyothername

(2,711 posts)
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:09 AM Oct 2012

Why the Romney-ites are so confident, and why

we shouldn't be too worried about it.

http://thepage.time.com/2012/10/24/the-latest-view-from-one-prudential-plaza-why-the-obama-campaign-is-still-so-confident-about-beating-romney/

. . . THE COMPOSITION OF THE ELECTORATE:

Jim Messina told reporters on that conference call, “We think that people aren’t getting it always right about who and what this electorate’s going to be comprised of on Election Day. I think we continue to think it’s going to be a higher percentage of minorities and young people than some are forecasting.”

Added Messina:

“The Republicans are anticipating that minority turnout will drop off, but we already know that’s not the case, and that’s important as you look at some polls here. The electorate has been increasingly and consistently more diverse. Minority voting is going to reach an all-time high this year, projected as high as 28% of all voters in the ‘12 election. Most new registrants over the past three months are under 30, and nearly all—four in five—are youth, women, African American or Latino. You know, these are all groups that strongly support the President’s re-election. Voter registration has increased most among Latinos and African Americans…”
And a senior official told me this, “It seems like the Romney campaign is counting on a big drop off in minority voters and young voters to make their theory of the case work but there’s no indication in the historical data or in the early vote data that that’s happening or bound to happen. It seems like it’s been refuted in the polls, right now.” . . .
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Why the Romney-ites are so confident, and why (Original Post) abumbyanyothername Oct 2012 OP
they are like a child whistling in the dark.... oldhippydude Oct 2012 #1
If you think Messina is... Rick ungar Oct 2012 #2
Thanks for your concern abumbyanyothername Oct 2012 #4
Yeah, Messina is a good source and we're GOTV. WIN/WIN Cha Oct 2012 #6
Ludicrous Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #9
Hey Rick. AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #12
Not only that fujiyama Oct 2012 #3
No chance we lose PA or MI IfPalinisAnswerWatsQ Oct 2012 #5
do you seriously expect the romney camp to go around saying "we're losing" lol nt msongs Oct 2012 #7
Robme is Confident Because His People Own the Voting Machinez AndyTiedye Oct 2012 #8
Romnesia acts confident because he has to ItsTheMediaStupid Oct 2012 #15
I wonder if he will give us the stupid-smirky-face when he concedes? n/t jtuck004 Oct 2012 #10
Do these people even know any women? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #11
I hope Messina isn't underestimating Rustycup Oct 2012 #13
We are already seeing this in early voting in OH, NC, and IA. Jennicut Oct 2012 #14
Campaigns MUST project an air of confidence RomneyLies Oct 2012 #16
This MSMITH33156 Oct 2012 #17
Are they also confident about electronic machines loosing votes? MrMickeysMom Oct 2012 #18
What they did... PsychProfessor Oct 2012 #19
 

Rick ungar

(17 posts)
2. If you think Messina is...
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:14 AM
Oct 2012

a good source on this, your not looking at reality. It is going to be close and we need to GOTV.

 

Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
9. Ludicrous
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:25 AM
Oct 2012

Anyone who has been paying attention knows that 4 years of dog whistling and in many cases overt racism would have a cumulative effect on minority voters. To put it simply: they are fucking pissed and they will take their anger out at the polls.

You are a fool.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
12. Hey Rick.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 05:05 AM
Oct 2012

Well, I guess it is possible, simply because the GOP is willing to try anything in the book to steal Obama's thunder, by hook or by crook, and in order to succeed, we need to keep GOTVing as if our lives depended on it, in any way we can.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
3. Not only that
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:14 AM
Oct 2012

but OH is going well due to the auto bailout. WI is doing relatively well.

The SW is strong due to Latino support (NV) especially...

And that is ALL Obama needs beyond the usual states (PA, MI) which I'm not worried about losing.

And that's not even including other potential states like IA, NH, CO, VA and less critical but awesome to have - FL and NC.

 
5. No chance we lose PA or MI
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:19 AM
Oct 2012

Romney campaign has internal polling operations. If Romney campaign thought they had a chance in either they'd be sending Romney there. The fact that he's largely left Nevada now means that they're basically conceding NV to Obama as well. So we're down to 8 swing states with the following current statuses in my opinion:

Colorado: Toss-up
Wisconsin: Likely Obama
Ohio: Leans Obama
Iowa: Leans Obama
Virginia: Toss-up
North Carolina: Leans Romney
Florida: Leans Romney

I think that the O-mentum will bring us CO and VA in the end as well as the lean Obama states.

ItsTheMediaStupid

(2,800 posts)
15. Romnesia acts confident because he has to
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:32 AM
Oct 2012

That is what you have to do at this stage of the game in a national campaign.

If the candidate looks too worried about losing, he's going to kill repugs in the downticket races by supressing repug turnout.

I'm staying focused on what we can control this election cycle, and that's turnout, not voting machines.

Rustycup

(41 posts)
13. I hope Messina isn't underestimating
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 08:21 AM
Oct 2012

the low information voter. I saw a web ad for Romney the other day that said "Recovery not dependency" That needs to be countered not with he is extreme but with a sound bite. That saying resonates with some. I know the Dem's message has been good lately but it really needs to be hounding on the reason things are stalling...showing how republicans are voting no to getting jobs back, how the republicans are for tax cuts but then raise the cost of everything else...has your license fee gone up? Your registration fees? etc.
Even the "socialism" thing...capitalism can't work with out the investment given to them by the government in bond ratings, tax breaks etc.

It is still too close for comfort and I am tired of hearing my coworkers smug remarks. Thank god for the ipod.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
14. We are already seeing this in early voting in OH, NC, and IA.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 08:37 AM
Oct 2012

Lots of AA turnout and younger people. And Obama has the superior GOTV operation. I mean, David Gergen would not have put the Romney operation down if he thought it was better then Obama's. Rachel Maddow made a great point last night. In OH there is a ground game just from the Dems and liberals there that fought Kasich on cutting early voting and the the restrictive collective bargaining law. Ohio is probably one of the best run ground games of the swing states for the Obama people.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
18. Are they also confident about electronic machines loosing votes?
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:48 AM
Oct 2012

I hear that's the latest way to wipe out over 5 million votes.

Vigilance...

PsychProfessor

(204 posts)
19. What they did...
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:20 PM
Oct 2012

I think the efforts to suppress the vote have so seriously backfired in their faces. Think about it. All the calls for people to vote and all the various persuasive techniques that have been used to convince Americans to vote have left us with an electorate that simply does not show up on election day. What the republicans did with their efforts to suppress the vote is radically change the perception of voting. They made it into a scarcity, something that is being threatened, a precious commodity. That threat so enhanced the value of voting. Essentially, any commodity that is scarce is likely to be viewed as valuable. So, their efforts to suppress the vote may be the best way to get people to actual value their own franchise. I don't see the nonwhite vote declining off 2008. People have argued that it would drop off because of the historic significance of an African-American president having lost its appeal. First, those who voted in 2008 for "historic reasons" are just as motivated to have this historic president not be limited to one term. Second, having voted once, it makes no sense not to vote again. In fact, those first time voters in 2008 had an experience that many first time voters do not: Their candidate actually won. Third, again, the attempts to take the vote away have enhanced the perceived value of voting.

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