2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy the Romney-ites are so confident, and why
we shouldn't be too worried about it.
http://thepage.time.com/2012/10/24/the-latest-view-from-one-prudential-plaza-why-the-obama-campaign-is-still-so-confident-about-beating-romney/
. . . THE COMPOSITION OF THE ELECTORATE:
Jim Messina told reporters on that conference call, We think that people arent getting it always right about who and what this electorates going to be comprised of on Election Day. I think we continue to think its going to be a higher percentage of minorities and young people than some are forecasting.
Added Messina:
The Republicans are anticipating that minority turnout will drop off, but we already know thats not the case, and thats important as you look at some polls here. The electorate has been increasingly and consistently more diverse. Minority voting is going to reach an all-time high this year, projected as high as 28% of all voters in the 12 election. Most new registrants over the past three months are under 30, and nearly allfour in fiveare youth, women, African American or Latino. You know, these are all groups that strongly support the Presidents re-election. Voter registration has increased most among Latinos and African Americans
And a senior official told me this, It seems like the Romney campaign is counting on a big drop off in minority voters and young voters to make their theory of the case work but theres no indication in the historical data or in the early vote data that thats happening or bound to happen. It seems like its been refuted in the polls, right now. . . .
oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)to keep away the boogie man..
Rick ungar
(17 posts)a good source on this, your not looking at reality. It is going to be close and we need to GOTV.
abumbyanyothername
(2,711 posts)Cha
(297,818 posts)Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)Anyone who has been paying attention knows that 4 years of dog whistling and in many cases overt racism would have a cumulative effect on minority voters. To put it simply: they are fucking pissed and they will take their anger out at the polls.
You are a fool.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Well, I guess it is possible, simply because the GOP is willing to try anything in the book to steal Obama's thunder, by hook or by crook, and in order to succeed, we need to keep GOTVing as if our lives depended on it, in any way we can.
fujiyama
(15,185 posts)but OH is going well due to the auto bailout. WI is doing relatively well.
The SW is strong due to Latino support (NV) especially...
And that is ALL Obama needs beyond the usual states (PA, MI) which I'm not worried about losing.
And that's not even including other potential states like IA, NH, CO, VA and less critical but awesome to have - FL and NC.
IfPalinisAnswerWatsQ
(452 posts)Romney campaign has internal polling operations. If Romney campaign thought they had a chance in either they'd be sending Romney there. The fact that he's largely left Nevada now means that they're basically conceding NV to Obama as well. So we're down to 8 swing states with the following current statuses in my opinion:
Colorado: Toss-up
Wisconsin: Likely Obama
Ohio: Leans Obama
Iowa: Leans Obama
Virginia: Toss-up
North Carolina: Leans Romney
Florida: Leans Romney
I think that the O-mentum will bring us CO and VA in the end as well as the lean Obama states.
msongs
(67,462 posts)AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)ItsTheMediaStupid
(2,800 posts)That is what you have to do at this stage of the game in a national campaign.
If the candidate looks too worried about losing, he's going to kill repugs in the downticket races by supressing repug turnout.
I'm staying focused on what we can control this election cycle, and that's turnout, not voting machines.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Rustycup
(41 posts)the low information voter. I saw a web ad for Romney the other day that said "Recovery not dependency" That needs to be countered not with he is extreme but with a sound bite. That saying resonates with some. I know the Dem's message has been good lately but it really needs to be hounding on the reason things are stalling...showing how republicans are voting no to getting jobs back, how the republicans are for tax cuts but then raise the cost of everything else...has your license fee gone up? Your registration fees? etc.
Even the "socialism" thing...capitalism can't work with out the investment given to them by the government in bond ratings, tax breaks etc.
It is still too close for comfort and I am tired of hearing my coworkers smug remarks. Thank god for the ipod.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Lots of AA turnout and younger people. And Obama has the superior GOTV operation. I mean, David Gergen would not have put the Romney operation down if he thought it was better then Obama's. Rachel Maddow made a great point last night. In OH there is a ground game just from the Dems and liberals there that fought Kasich on cutting early voting and the the restrictive collective bargaining law. Ohio is probably one of the best run ground games of the swing states for the Obama people.
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)Especially campaigns that are losing.
MSMITH33156
(879 posts)They have Joementum.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I hear that's the latest way to wipe out over 5 million votes.
Vigilance...
PsychProfessor
(204 posts)I think the efforts to suppress the vote have so seriously backfired in their faces. Think about it. All the calls for people to vote and all the various persuasive techniques that have been used to convince Americans to vote have left us with an electorate that simply does not show up on election day. What the republicans did with their efforts to suppress the vote is radically change the perception of voting. They made it into a scarcity, something that is being threatened, a precious commodity. That threat so enhanced the value of voting. Essentially, any commodity that is scarce is likely to be viewed as valuable. So, their efforts to suppress the vote may be the best way to get people to actual value their own franchise. I don't see the nonwhite vote declining off 2008. People have argued that it would drop off because of the historic significance of an African-American president having lost its appeal. First, those who voted in 2008 for "historic reasons" are just as motivated to have this historic president not be limited to one term. Second, having voted once, it makes no sense not to vote again. In fact, those first time voters in 2008 had an experience that many first time voters do not: Their candidate actually won. Third, again, the attempts to take the vote away have enhanced the perceived value of voting.