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Surprising exit poll data (Original Post) redstateblues Apr 2016 OP
We exist in a bubble here on DU. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #1
Yep a Clinton bubble RobertEarl Apr 2016 #15
Thanks for the humorous post Trust Buster Apr 2016 #23
Not humor --- Truth RobertEarl Apr 2016 #24
The math is the only truth that matters. Hillary is the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #25
well said. riversedge Apr 2016 #26
Here is how Bernie wins the nomination RobertEarl Apr 2016 #27
Would they have to give back the money? nt Kokonoe Apr 2016 #28
So to ensure Democracy wins the supers have to IGNORE all the votes Codeine Apr 2016 #32
That's funny. Sanders has essentially called the Super delegates corrupt in his latest attack on the Trust Buster Apr 2016 #33
What is corrupt RobertEarl Apr 2016 #34
You just described why they will not flip. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #35
Because they are corrupted RobertEarl Apr 2016 #37
No, they will not switch because Sanders and his supporters call them corrupt. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #38
So much for the idea that the Bernie supporters are uniquely indispensable. Zynx Apr 2016 #2
Yeah they say that now, Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #3
Moderate republicans who vote Democratic I would guess. PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #4
Independents. You know, the people who actually decide national elections. Barack_America Apr 2016 #16
They did not vote today. PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #17
Which is why it looks like few Bernie voters won't support Hillary. Barack_America Apr 2016 #19
agree PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #21
Of course they did. TM99 Apr 2016 #29
We get it. PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #30
yeah, that surprised me too. DCBob Apr 2016 #5
That is encouraging?? oldandhappy Apr 2016 #6
I thought it would be a lot higher- Those numbers will shrink by the GE redstateblues Apr 2016 #8
Sorry to disappoint, but it's because independents were excluded from voting. Barack_America Apr 2016 #18
For the most part primaries become distant memories come general election time KingFlorez Apr 2016 #7
New York Might be a Tad Different Stallion Apr 2016 #9
Those likely don't represent a lot of Sanders supporters...no indies. nt jmg257 Apr 2016 #10
Good Point-They Ain't in the Exit Polls Stallion Apr 2016 #12
Not surprising to me at all. grossproffit Apr 2016 #11
It's New York. Any Democrat will win New York, just by running as a Democrat. (nt) w4rma Apr 2016 #13
That is surprising democrattotheend Apr 2016 #14
It really isn't surprising TM99 Apr 2016 #31
69-31? reddread Apr 2016 #20
Only 13%? 10% voted for Sarah Palin/McClown. What a bunch of fucks. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #22
Sanders has consistently had more Democrats say they won't vote for him in the general in polling Recursion Apr 2016 #36
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
15. Yep a Clinton bubble
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:14 PM
Apr 2016

And it is about to pop.

Nationwide H is losing. On DU H is losing, but there be much foaming from the H camp here, making it seem bigger than is is.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
24. Not humor --- Truth
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:32 PM
Apr 2016

look at the trends in this election since the first votes were cast. Bernie was 40 points down and now is about tied in NY!

The bubble out there is burst. All that's left on DU is foam. DU now, the nation in a few weeks.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
27. Here is how Bernie wins the nomination
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:40 PM
Apr 2016

H will not get a majority of pledged delegates.

So at the convention the super delegates will decide.

In the meantime we remind the super delegates of what democracy means. What democracy means is; the People.

We don't shout yell and scream at the supers. We tell them how important they are and that we depend on them to ensure democracy wins.

The supers are not dumb. They see us, they see Bernie leading us, and they see the revolution. The revolution is democracy on the rise.

Our job is to help the super delegates feel good about voting for and nominating Bernie.
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
32. So to ensure Democracy wins the supers have to IGNORE all the votes
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:57 PM
Apr 2016

and pledged delegate totals? By that time she'll be up around three million votes and a couple hundred delegates, but none of that matters because "revolution"?

You're a very silly person.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
33. That's funny. Sanders has essentially called the Super delegates corrupt in his latest attack on the
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:45 PM
Apr 2016

DNC. If you think that they'll switch their votes away from the highest vote getter and life long Democrat to an Independent that just called them corrupt, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you......LOL

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
34. What is corrupt
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:48 PM
Apr 2016

It is corrupt that some of the Supers declared, before even the first vote was cast, that they would be voting for H. Those declarations were anti-democratic and a big finger to the people.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
37. Because they are corrupted
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:09 PM
Apr 2016

That means we have to make them really feel the Bern.

good to see you agree they are corrupted.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
38. No, they will not switch because Sanders and his supporters call them corrupt.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:11 PM
Apr 2016

You answer your own question.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
2. So much for the idea that the Bernie supporters are uniquely indispensable.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:50 PM
Apr 2016

Looks like we need the whole party, everyone.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
3. Yeah they say that now,
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:51 PM
Apr 2016

but the prospect of President Trump or President Cruz will concentrate folks' minds wonderfully.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
19. Which is why it looks like few Bernie voters won't support Hillary.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:18 PM
Apr 2016

The number is much higher.

This stat is meaningless in a closed primary.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
29. Of course they did.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:51 PM
Apr 2016

Many registered as Democrats six months ago in order to do so.

Y'all really don't get how this works do you?

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
6. That is encouraging??
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:52 PM
Apr 2016

That 18% will not vote for Bernie? Elections are won or lost on a much narrower margin. Maybe I do not understand. Having that problem a lot lately!

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
18. Sorry to disappoint, but it's because independents were excluded from voting.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:16 PM
Apr 2016

They're the Bernie voters who won't vote for Hillary.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
7. For the most part primaries become distant memories come general election time
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:53 PM
Apr 2016

I imagine that most people will not even remember much of what happened during the primary, because the general will consume their thinking.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
9. New York Might be a Tad Different
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:53 PM
Apr 2016

because of Clinton's history in New York and it maybe less likely to consider the financial capital of the world to be Sodom and Gomorrah. What state in the union has a greater history of fostering International trade for example

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
31. It really isn't surprising
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:54 PM
Apr 2016

when you actually look at the math.

Independents who wanted to vote in this primary could register as a Democrat six months ago and did so.

We already know that few independents vote for Clinton.

It is all about the independent vote. Clinton can't win without them. And even if all 13% polled here are remaining Democrats, she is still very far gone. The Democratic Party can not afford for around 15% to not vote for a GE nominee and also lose the leftist independent vote which she does hands down.

This looks far worse on paper. The only reason Clinton supporters are touting it is to look superior. See, we will still vote for Sanders because he has a D after his name and y'all want. Nothing more.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
36. Sanders has consistently had more Democrats say they won't vote for him in the general in polling
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:52 PM
Apr 2016

That metric is called "depth of support", and it's always been worse for Sanders than Clinton. I think a lot of people forget how ideologically diverse our party actually is nationwide.

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