2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSurprising exit poll data
Only 13% of Sanders' supporters say they wouldn't vote for Hillary while 18% of Hillary supporters wouldn't vote for Bernie. That's encouraging as I think those numbers would get a lot smaller by November
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)And it is about to pop.
Nationwide H is losing. On DU H is losing, but there be much foaming from the H camp here, making it seem bigger than is is.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)look at the trends in this election since the first votes were cast. Bernie was 40 points down and now is about tied in NY!
The bubble out there is burst. All that's left on DU is foam. DU now, the nation in a few weeks.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)riversedge
(70,239 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)H will not get a majority of pledged delegates.
So at the convention the super delegates will decide.
In the meantime we remind the super delegates of what democracy means. What democracy means is; the People.
We don't shout yell and scream at the supers. We tell them how important they are and that we depend on them to ensure democracy wins.
The supers are not dumb. They see us, they see Bernie leading us, and they see the revolution. The revolution is democracy on the rise.
Our job is to help the super delegates feel good about voting for and nominating Bernie.
Kokonoe
(2,485 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)and pledged delegate totals? By that time she'll be up around three million votes and a couple hundred delegates, but none of that matters because "revolution"?
You're a very silly person.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)DNC. If you think that they'll switch their votes away from the highest vote getter and life long Democrat to an Independent that just called them corrupt, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you......LOL
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)It is corrupt that some of the Supers declared, before even the first vote was cast, that they would be voting for H. Those declarations were anti-democratic and a big finger to the people.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)That means we have to make them really feel the Bern.
good to see you agree they are corrupted.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)You answer your own question.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)Looks like we need the whole party, everyone.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)but the prospect of President Trump or President Cruz will concentrate folks' minds wonderfully.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)The number is much higher.
This stat is meaningless in a closed primary.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)Many registered as Democrats six months ago in order to do so.
Y'all really don't get how this works do you?
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)Good news.. I think.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)That 18% will not vote for Bernie? Elections are won or lost on a much narrower margin. Maybe I do not understand. Having that problem a lot lately!
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)They're the Bernie voters who won't vote for Hillary.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)I imagine that most people will not even remember much of what happened during the primary, because the general will consume their thinking.
Stallion
(6,474 posts)because of Clinton's history in New York and it maybe less likely to consider the financial capital of the world to be Sodom and Gomorrah. What state in the union has a greater history of fostering International trade for example
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Stallion
(6,474 posts)nm
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)w4rma
(31,700 posts)democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Hasn't it been the other way around almost everywhere else?
TM99
(8,352 posts)when you actually look at the math.
Independents who wanted to vote in this primary could register as a Democrat six months ago and did so.
We already know that few independents vote for Clinton.
It is all about the independent vote. Clinton can't win without them. And even if all 13% polled here are remaining Democrats, she is still very far gone. The Democratic Party can not afford for around 15% to not vote for a GE nominee and also lose the leftist independent vote which she does hands down.
This looks far worse on paper. The only reason Clinton supporters are touting it is to look superior. See, we will still vote for Sanders because he has a D after his name and y'all want. Nothing more.
reddread
(6,896 posts)WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)That metric is called "depth of support", and it's always been worse for Sanders than Clinton. I think a lot of people forget how ideologically diverse our party actually is nationwide.