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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:50 PM Apr 2016

Amy Goodman & Ari Berman: Millions of New Yorkers Were Disenfranchised from the Primaries!

Millions of New Yorkers Disenfranchised from Primaries Thanks to State's Restrictive Voting Laws
April 19, 2016
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"Democracy Now's" Amy Goodman speaks with Ari Berman of "The Nation:"

Published on Apr 19, 2016

http://democracynow.org - Voters head to the polls today in New York for both the Democratic and Republican primary in one of the most closely watched races of the election. But millions of New Yorkers won’t be able to vote, thanks to the state’s restrictive voting laws. The state has no early voting, no Election Day registration, and excuse-only absentee balloting. The voter registration deadline for the primary closed 25 days ago, before any candidate had even campaigned in New York.

Meanwhile, independent or unaffiliated voters had to change their party registrations back in October—over 190 days ago—to vote in today’s closed Democratic or Republican primaries. Meanwhile, WNYC is reporting there are 60,000 fewer registered Democrats in Brooklyn and no clear reason why. This comes as a group of New Yorkers who saw their party affiliations mysteriously switched filed a lawsuit seeking to open the state’s closed primary so that they can cast a ballot. We speak to The Nation’s Ari Berman, author of "Give Us the Ballot: The Modern Struggle for Voting Rights in America."


Partial Transcript Below the "You Tube."



AMY GOODMAN: While Hillary Clinton urged everyone to come out and vote today, that’s not an option for millions of New Yorkers, thanks to the state’s restrictive voting laws. Last week, Bernie Sanders admitted New York will be a tough primary, thanks to those voting rules.

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS: We have a system here in New York where independents can’t get involved in the Democratic primary, where young people who have not previously registered and want to register today just can’t do it. So this is going to be a tough primary for us.

AMY GOODMAN: That’s Senator Sanders speaking last week in front of 27,000 people in New York’s Washington Square Park. While Sanders has held a series of massive rallies in New York, many of his supporters can’t vote today in the state’s closed primary. Voting rights activists say New York has some of the most restrictive voting laws in the country. The state has no early voting, no Election Day registration, and excuse-only absentee balloting. The voter registration deadline for the primary closed 25 days ago, before any candidate had even campaigned in New York. Meanwhile, independent or unaffiliated voters had to change their party registrations back in October—over 190 days ago, before any debate or any primary or caucus—to vote in today’s closed Democratic or Republican primaries. This will reportedly disenfranchise nearly 30 percent of New Yorkers. Donald Trump’s own children did not manage to change their party registrations from independent to Republican in time to vote for their father.

Meanwhile, WNYC is reporting the number of registered Democrats in Brooklyn dropped by 60,000 since November, and there’s no clear reason why. During that same period, most counties in New York saw an increase in registered Democrats. This comes as a group of New Yorkers who saw their party affiliations mysteriously switched filed a lawsuit seeking to open New York’s closed primaries so that they can cast a ballot. The lawsuit is asking for an emergency declaratory judgment that would make today’s New York primary open, meaning any registered New York voter could cast a ballot in either party’s primary.

Well, for all this and more, we’re joined by Ari Berman, senior contributing writer for The Nation, where he covers voting rights. His latest book, Give Us the Ballot: The Modern Struggle for Voting Rights in America.

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Welcome to Democracy Now!, Ari. You wrote a piece in The Nation, "27 Percent of New York’s Registered Voters Won’t Be Able to Vote in the State’s Primary." Can you explain this?

ARI BERMAN: Yes. Thanks for having me back, Amy. So, nearly a third of New Yorkers can’t participate in the primary because they are not registered with the Democratic or Republican Party, and New York has some of the most restrictive voter registration laws in the country, as you mentioned. People had to change their party affiliations back in October, when no one was paying attention to the New York primary. People had to register to vote 25 days before the election, before any candidate had campaigned in New York. And beyond that, New York has some of the worst voting laws in the country. Unlike 37 states, we don’t have early voting. Unlike 15 states, we don’t have Election Day registration. Our Constitution doesn’t even allow Election Day registration, because you have to register no later than 10 days before an election. We have excuse-only absentee ballots, meaning you have to prove you’re out of town and—or you to prove you have a disability to get an absentee ballot.

I think it’s sad that we are the fourth bluest state in the country but have some of the worst voting laws. We rank below Texas, below North Carolina, behind all of these states with new voting restrictions, in terms of voter turnout. We ranked 44th in voter turnout in 2012. We got a D-minus from the Center for American Progress on accessibility to the ballot. So, regardless of which candidate you’re for, regardless of whether you’re for open or closed primaries, we should be for making it much easier to vote in New York.

AMY GOODMAN: Why is this, Ari? Why are these laws so restrictive in New York? Who passed these laws, and when did they do it?

ARI BERMAN: Both parties want to protect the status quo in New York, Amy. Democrats, by and large, are happy with the system. Republicans, by and large, are happy with the system. They just want their slice of the pie, and they what to protect it. Incumbents who are in power want to stay that way. So, unlike states like Oregon and California, which have embraced reform, passing policies like automatic voter registration and Election Day registration, New York has not followed this trend for progressive reform. And I think that’s really unfortunate. The one good thing that could come out of this primary, with the Trump kids not being able to register, with so many Bernie supporters not being able to register, is that finally people are paying attention to just how bad New York’s voting laws really are, how many people are shut out of the democratic process here.

AMY GOODMAN: So, can you talk about this piece in the New York Daily News, which recently ran an article, "Hundreds of New York state voters to file suit calling the closed primary 'a threat to our democratic system' after claiming their party affiliation mysteriously changed." The article quotes Joanna Viscuso, a 19-year-old from Long Island. She said she registered to vote as a Democrat during her college orientation at Adelphi University in 2014. Then, she noticed last week that now her voter registration online says she’s not affiliated with a party. Viscuso reportedly called the Nassau Board of Elections, and they told her that she had filled out a form in September to change her party affiliation, and sent it in October. But she claims she never did that. She says she’s a first-time voter. She told the New York Daily News, "As soon as I noticed it was changed I was infuriated, and then when they said there was nothing I could do I was still infuriated. All of a sudden we can’t vote? That’s ridiculous!" she said. How is this possible?

ARI BERMAN: It’s a very mysterious situation. We’ve seen similar things happen in other states. In Arizona, where there were five-hour lines at the polls because they reduced so many polling places, a lot of people also had their voter registration switched without them knowing. So people waited in five-hour lines and still weren’t able to cast a ballot, because they were not registered. In New York, what these voters should do is cast a provisional ballot and try to have that ballot counted after the election. There is going to be a lawsuit this morning to try to open up New York’s primary. Regardless of whether or not that succeeds, people should go to the polls. They should vote today. They should cast a provisional ballot and try to get that counted afterwards.

AMY GOODMAN: A WNYC analysis of New York state voter enrollment statistics found that the number of active registered Democrats dropped there [in Brooklyn] by 63,558 voters between November 2015 and now, April 2016. That translates into a 7 percent drop in registered Democrats in the borough. According to the NPR station in New York, WNYC, no other borough in New York City nor county in the rest of the state saw such a significant decline in active registered Democrats. In fact, only seven of the state’s 62 counties saw a drop in the number of Democrats. Everywhere else saw the numbers increase. Can you explain what’s going on in Brooklyn?

ARI BERMAN: What the Board of Elections in Brooklyn said is that they had changed the number of voters from active to inactive, and that’s why there was such a big drop-off. But 60,000 people are a lot of voters to shift from active to inactive. So, it’s very possible that some active voters are going to be wrongly purged from the polls, and some people are going to show up to vote in Brooklyn, think they’re registered, think they’re active, and not be on the voting rolls. We have seen this in many other states, in Florida in 2000, in Ohio in 2004. I hope—

AMY GOODMAN: Ari, how do you become inactive?

ARI BERMAN: You become inactive—

AMY GOODMAN: What determines this?

ARI BERMAN: —by not voting in the past few elections. That’s how you become inactive. But sometimes people don’t vote for whatever reason and want to vote now. Other times, people are wrongly labeled inactive and wrongly purged from the voting rolls. So, we don’t know enough to say what happened here, but it’s disturbing that some people may have been put on inactive status if they are not in fact inactive.

AMY GOODMAN: Ari Berman, I want to thank you for being with us, senior contributing writer for The Nation, where he covers voting rights. His book is titled Give Us the Ballot: The Modern Struggle for Voting Rights in America. And we’ll link to your piece in The Nation magazine, "27 Percent of New York’s Registered Voters Won’t Be Able to Vote in the State’s Primary." We’ll link at democracynow.org.


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Amy Goodman & Ari Berman: Millions of New Yorkers Were Disenfranchised from the Primaries! (Original Post) KoKo Apr 2016 OP
Why did someone not explain the voting procedures? The rules was posted here on DU last year Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #1
Those that side with the Big Money think they get to gloat. Well have your day. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #13
Do you think Du is the representation of the American voter passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #14
Well, then in the case of a highly informed constituancy there is not a need to inform, all is well. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #15
Where the hell are you getting that? passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #23
Would you have preferred for the potential voters of Sanders who was registered as independents Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #24
Of course I would always prefer that voter information be given before it affects votes. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #25
No, I like to see big voter turnouts, I also like for the rules to be followed, I knew the rules in Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #29
I knew the rules in my state. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #31
Thanks, we need Democrats on every level, this is the way to get progressive ideas passed and will Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #32
Nice dodge. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #35
Defending Republican-style disenfranchisements. Amazing. I have no words. chascarrillo Apr 2016 #36
In the case of Wisconsin under the Red State Walker Regime, new voter restrictions appalachiablue Apr 2016 #30
Once again a Camp Sanders person who does not know what "disenfranchisement" actually means Tarc Apr 2016 #2
We have all been similarly "disenfranchised"... Corporate666 Apr 2016 #12
Good point. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #16
They did it to themselves by not following the rules. Now they are creating Operation riversedge Apr 2016 #3
Exactly workinclasszero Apr 2016 #5
Agreed rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #6
See, you followed the rules and you voted. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceNikki Apr 2016 #4
Recommend/ n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #7
It seems to me that if I were running for President Codeine Apr 2016 #8
Part of getting your voters to the voting booth. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #19
Did DNC workers... ReRe Apr 2016 #40
It's whining. Sparkly Apr 2016 #9
Why would the party switch people to azmom Apr 2016 #10
Dems used to care about disenfranchisement. vintx Apr 2016 #20
They are really reminding me of the Trumpkins. Cry and whine when you remain willfully ignorant tritsofme Apr 2016 #11
This is why after the convention, if she's our nominee, I'm done with this party. vintx Apr 2016 #17
Do you think the candidate who gets the lower number of delegates should be entitled to the Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #21
Me too. n/t djean111 Apr 2016 #27
#BernieOrBust desmiller Apr 2016 #28
It should be #WinOrWhine. randome Apr 2016 #44
Here is something better: #NaughtyList4U desmiller Apr 2016 #45
You'll whine when... pinebox Apr 2016 #46
No, I won't, because he will make a fine President, as will Clinton. randome Apr 2016 #48
Not "disenfranchised." nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #22
No early voting. No day of registration. Restricted absentee ballots. All = disenfranchisement. chascarrillo Apr 2016 #34
That's not disenfranchisement....that's rules. nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #37
Here we go. Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #26
I love the smell of hyperbole in the morning... brooklynite Apr 2016 #33
Ari Berrman on DemocracyNow ReRe Apr 2016 #38
NYT's Maps and Stats from NY Vote that are interesting for future discovery KoKo Apr 2016 #41
Dayam! ReRe Apr 2016 #42
Another Donation.....Definitely. KoKo Apr 2016 #43
I'm going to keep mentioning that today. ReRe Apr 2016 #47
Here is the big lie: the idea that 27% of people who wanted to vote in the primaries could not. pnwmom Apr 2016 #39
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #49

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Why did someone not explain the voting procedures? The rules was posted here on DU last year
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:55 PM
Apr 2016

and it would behoove those interested in getting as many voters as possible in a position to vote for their candidate, seems like someone dropped the ball here.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
13. Those that side with the Big Money think they get to gloat. Well have your day.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:45 PM
Apr 2016

Some day soon the 99% will kick the Rich Fat Cats and their minions to the curb. We are fighting for democracy and some are fighting to hold on to the oligarchy. It's Authoritarian adulation.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
14. Do you think Du is the representation of the American voter
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:52 PM
Apr 2016

We are a highly informed constituancy...not like normal residents of this country, and we still screw up on voting rules.

So, is it OK with you that voters are disenfranchised because of a six month freeze on changing parties that they may not have been aware of?

Do you think voting and voting rules should be this confusing to the common voter...who is often suffering from apathy in the whole voter system that hurts Dems more than Republicans?

Seriously...you are OK with disenfranchisement of dem voters because it helps you in this primary?

How sick is that?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
15. Well, then in the case of a highly informed constituancy there is not a need to inform, all is well.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:58 PM
Apr 2016

Tells me the NY voters knew they needed to change their registration six months ago and did not change their party. No problem.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
23. Where the hell are you getting that?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:05 PM
Apr 2016

I said DU member are unique in being more informed than the average voter, and even here there were members who did not know about the six month restriction on changing parties in NY.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
24. Would you have preferred for the potential voters of Sanders who was registered as independents
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:10 PM
Apr 2016

to be told they must change their party registration before October or not? I saw this information last year, the open, semi open and closed primaries. There are cut offs on registration and other rules, if the deadline for changing passed, it passed.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
25. Of course I would always prefer that voter information be given before it affects votes.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:16 PM
Apr 2016

Don't you?

I don't know where you "got" this information, but apparently many voters did not get it in time to make them eligible to vote.

and as a dem, you don't see that as a problem, considering often republicans win from low numbers of dems voting?

Cause right now you are making it sound like you don't give a shit if voters are informed or not.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
29. No, I like to see big voter turnouts, I also like for the rules to be followed, I knew the rules in
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:37 PM
Apr 2016

my state. This is why it would have been good for voter education to have begun a long time ago. To come in here now and make accusations against myself is not going to change the rules. I said something about educating voter, you seemed to take offense. I am not to blame for this failure.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
31. I knew the rules in my state.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:46 PM
Apr 2016

So you, a politically savvy voter (which is not common) is smarter than all those losers who did not keep up?

Got it. And your superior attitude somehow helps us win votes how?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
32. Thanks, we need Democrats on every level, this is the way to get progressive ideas passed and will
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:49 PM
Apr 2016

be of great help to us.

chascarrillo

(3,897 posts)
36. Defending Republican-style disenfranchisements. Amazing. I have no words.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:52 PM
Apr 2016

But hey, as long as your candidate wins...

appalachiablue

(41,132 posts)
30. In the case of Wisconsin under the Red State Walker Regime, new voter restrictions
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:42 PM
Apr 2016

were implemented over years by measures like eliminating early voting, requiring new, additional and often expensive voter IDs, the closure of many DMV offices needed to obtain DLs and documents, an extreme reduction in polling hours for voting, and more. And there was state MONEY APPROPRIATED FOR EDUCATION OF CITIZENS ABOUT NEW, EXTENSIVE VOTING RULES, but the funds disappeared somehow. Imagine that..

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
2. Once again a Camp Sanders person who does not know what "disenfranchisement" actually means
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:55 PM
Apr 2016

This is a vote for a party nominee, not a vote for the president. Political parties set their own rules as to when an how a person has to be registered wit the party in order to participate in that party's elections. No one prevented you from registering; you were not harassed, intimidated, or defrauded of your right to join the Democratic Party. You simply did not register by the date specified.

Missing a deadline is not "disenfranchisement", so please, build a bridge and get the fuck over it.



Corporate666

(587 posts)
12. We have all been similarly "disenfranchised"...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:27 PM
Apr 2016

by the 49 out of 50 states that don't let each of us vote in their primaries.

riversedge

(70,223 posts)
3. They did it to themselves by not following the rules. Now they are creating Operation
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:55 PM
Apr 2016

Chaos for those who followed the rules.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
6. Agreed
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:10 PM
Apr 2016

Amy Goodman should know better, how disappointing.

No one was "disenfranchised." New York's rules have been the same for 40 years.

I speak from experience. I registered Independent after Obama won in 2008 and have not voted in a Dem primary since then until today.

Back in October I knew to change my registration -- at the time because I *wanted* to vote for Bernie as a protest vote (figuring Hillary had it in the bag and needed to be pulled left). I did it with weeks to spare. I got calls from the Sanders campaign reminding me at the time, lol.

By today I had changed my mind fully -- thanks BS supporters for convincing me misogyny is still the issue -- and voted for Hillary. I walked in at 8am and out at 8:10am.

I have lived in New York for 25 years. I've never had any problem with my voter registration or the voting process. Suggesting a longstanding system that routinely produces high levels of minority representation (among other things, a reliably blue state in presidential and congressional elections) is "voter suppression" smells badly of butthurt.

Response to KoKo (Original post)

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
8. It seems to me that if I were running for President
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:17 PM
Apr 2016

and my success was riding on young and independent voters then I would be well-advised to start an educational drive early in the process to get my people registered or get their party affiliation changed in a timely manner.

Instead I recall the Sanders campaign bitching that there were no DNC workers registering people at the Sanders rallies.

Amateur hour.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
40. Did DNC workers...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:39 AM
Apr 2016

... register voters at the Hillary rallies? If so, then I wonder what else the DNC workers did for Hillary that they didn't do for Bernie? Do you reckon the DNC didn't realize Bernie changed his party affiliation to Democrat when he entered the race?

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
20. Dems used to care about disenfranchisement.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:03 PM
Apr 2016

We're now seeing the fruits of the turd way fuckers' efforts.

We have this kind of shit in this once preferable party.

tritsofme

(17,378 posts)
11. They are really reminding me of the Trumpkins. Cry and whine when you remain willfully ignorant
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:23 PM
Apr 2016

of the rules. The failure belongs solely to Sanders campaign.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
17. This is why after the convention, if she's our nominee, I'm done with this party.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:01 PM
Apr 2016
Both parties want to protect the status quo in New York, Amy. Democrats, by and large, are happy with the system. Republicans, by and large, are happy with the system. They just want their slice of the pie, and they what to protect it.


From lifelong yellow dog Dem to 'fuck this shit' in less than six months.

Good job, DNC!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
21. Do you think the candidate who gets the lower number of delegates should be entitled to the
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:04 PM
Apr 2016

nomination? Now that would not be very democratic. So far, Hillary is up by 2.4 m votes, would that be fair?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
44. It should be #WinOrWhine.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:50 AM
Apr 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
48. No, I won't, because he will make a fine President, as will Clinton.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:16 PM
Apr 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"
[/center][/font][hr]

chascarrillo

(3,897 posts)
34. No early voting. No day of registration. Restricted absentee ballots. All = disenfranchisement.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:50 PM
Apr 2016

You may stop using Republican arguments any time you wish.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
38. Ari Berrman on DemocracyNow
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:31 AM
Apr 2016
K&R

Koko, wonder where the ACLU lawyers were? The proverbial shit ought to hit the fan this morning. We'll see. If the M$M doesn't report on this, I guess that means it didn't happen. Wrong. It did happen and c. 27% of voters were disenfranchised, 7% of which was in Brooklyn alone!

And I want to add one thing: Shame on you Hillary supporters for acting the bully in this thread. What Is wrong with you? Shake yourself, will yuz? Bet you'd be howling if the shoe was on the other foot. For the love of democracy, stop and think before you post. This is a serious problem, election after election after election! If you truly don't care if 27,000 people tried to vote and couldn't yesterday,
how can you call yourself an honest to God Democrat?????

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
41. NYT's Maps and Stats from NY Vote that are interesting for future discovery
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:52 AM
Apr 2016

Instead of watching CNN/MSNBC I watched the NYT's Election Center as the votes were coming in and this is worth a look. I think more will come out in the coming weeks about issues that "Democracy Now" pointed out. Bernie's in it for the long haul, thankfully, and what is being revealed about our election system in many states needed to be revealed.

If you look at the map of NYS and the Bernie Vote in NYC and the Borough's compared to Bernie's votes in the rest of the state, it's very interesting. Scroll down and look at the neighborhoods in New York City

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/new-york

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
42. Dayam!
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:20 AM
Apr 2016

What I do is mute the TV so I don't have to listen to the propaganda. At 9:01 pm MSNBC called it. Elections are not like they used to be. Used to, they wouldn't actually call an election until 50% of the vote was in. Now it's less than a minute after the polls closed.

I did look at your link. I need to bookmark the NYT's Election Center and just turn off the TV. Thanks for telling me about it. That is unbelievable. Shame on NYC. Who knew they are so bad at putting on an election? You and me and my sister could go up there and show them how to do it.

Yeah, Bernie is allot of things, but he's no quitter. I'm off now to go make a mode$t donation into his campaign.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
47. I'm going to keep mentioning that today.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:10 AM
Apr 2016

We get so swept up in these childish spats with the Hillary crowd.
I'm going to keep my mind on the PRIZE: Go Bernie!

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
39. Here is the big lie: the idea that 27% of people who wanted to vote in the primaries could not.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:38 AM
Apr 2016

Many of those people are active members of other, smaller parties and do not want to have any part of Republican or Democratic politics.

Here is a list of political parties in NY. There is no evidence that all the members of these official parties REALLY wanted to vote for Bernie Sanders.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_New_York

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