2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCNN just reported that Hillary is most likely NOT
Going to reach the required number of pledged delegates to avoid a contested convention.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)must secure a majority of total delegates. She won't do it through pledged delegates alone.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)She's the pre-ordained Queen of the 1%.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)the super delegates who have already endorsed her will be changing their minds.
She didn't make Barack Obama wait till the convention to recognize reality. Bernie shouldn't either, unless he wants to help the GOP.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)She chose to concede in 2008. Otherwise, it could have been quite interesting.
And if Bernie stays in she won't reach a majority of pledged delegates until June 7.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)It's time for Bernie at least to stop with the dirty tricks -- like yesterday's despicable letter -- and ugly attacks.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)And the supers will vote with the winner of the pledged delegates as they always do. Bernie should get out ...he can't win and this latest BS of his sending a letter accusing Hillary of campaign finance Bs...from the pages of Politico hit piece...he needs to get out. He is doing himself and the party and the country no good.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)In a close race. 2008 is the only example of two candidates being close and running it out, but Hillary conceded before the convention, so Obama was the only one standing.
LiberalFighter
(50,943 posts)It makes no sense to say that 50% +1 of 4,765 delegates must be done with only pledged delegates. That 2,383 criteria is 58.8% of just the pledged delegates.
Sometimes I wish I could reach through my tv and stuff their foot up their rear.
polichick
(37,152 posts)Godhumor
(6,437 posts)It won't be contested.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)So there is that. There was no reason for her to win in NY. Of course, there is no reason for her to win anywhere. She isn't what she claims to be and never has been.
Stallion
(6,474 posts)she has easily won each and every California poll
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-california-democratic-presidential-primary
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)There's no reason to think her coalition of diverse voters won't support her in California.
brush
(53,784 posts)Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)With proportionate voting...he could not get a enough delegates...it is over.
amborin
(16,631 posts)We are not Republicans and do not have contested conventions...the super delegates will vote for the nominee who has the most pledged delegates period end of story. And even if we had such a system...this latest ploy by Bernie accusing Hillary of campaign finance wrongdoing which he pulled from a partisan politico story would turn the supers against him. He accused down ballot candidates as well as Hillary and others...they said on CNN he could get sued...very reckless of Sanders...hope someone does sue him. It back-fired though...she trounced him.
Zira
(1,054 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I wonder where they will stand in ten minutes.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)by 20 points.
Stallion
(6,474 posts)this is nonsense
Robbins
(5,066 posts)but super delegates will likely hand it to her at convention.
if bernie couldn't win ny than i fear he will lose the april 26 states.
dsc
(52,162 posts)she will have won the pledged delegates, more votes than him, and thus have earned it. I know it is hard to give her credit for earning things but that is what she will have done.
LiberalFighter
(50,943 posts)Or 2,026 as the first step.
California will lock it up 100% but she will have an additional 60 delegate edge on top of her current 247 by next Tuesday. (+307) Leaving only about 1,074 left and Sanders would need just over 690 of that 1,074. That is over 64%.
RandySF
(58,896 posts)I don't trust their math.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)The post is not accurate
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)gabeana
(3,166 posts)brooklynite
(94,591 posts)Clinton will be ahead in ELECTED delegates; that and the Superdelegates will put her over the top. There won't be a "contest".
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)gets more than half of the pledged delegates --2026 -- that won't be enough. Because more than 700 delegates are supers, and to reach half of the total delegates she must have some of their votes -- which aren't officially cast till the convention.
Of course her super delegates will vote for her, so he's talking about a contested convention for no good reason.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)Philly a contested conv. for the Dems also IMHO
brush
(53,784 posts)Actually, he should be fired for not contesting the southern primaries. Things would have been very different is Sanders had won two or three of those primaries.
LexVegas
(6,067 posts)Stallion
(6,474 posts)nm
Tarc
(10,476 posts)Someone's sails are feeling a little slack in the breeze tonight.
George II
(67,782 posts)...he helped set them up.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)What nonsense.
sentenza607
(22 posts)...but Hillary was already well ahead of her target delegate count (pledged, not counting superdelegates) BEFORE tonight's results to win a majority. Tonight will put her even further ahead of that target, and the polls in the remaining big states look pretty good for her. See stats below:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/delegate-targets/democrats/
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Also WHO on CNN actually said that? A Bernie advocate?
"CNN" ?
Stuckinthebush
(10,845 posts)The pledged and supers vote together when each state is called at the convention. How will it be "contested"? She will have many more total delegates than needed.
It makes no sense. The pledged delegates are just one part of the equation.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)The supers vote for the candidate who has the most pledged delegates.