We're done with the lesser of two evils crap.

and vote for Hillary. She represents everything that's wrong with this country. I am tired of hearing that if we don't vote for her we're giving our votes away to the GOP. How can that be when the DNC uses voter suppression to win?

many years. No more.

You sound ridiculous.

43 here. 12 year DU member...

Bern...it...the fuck...down!

Particularly in the context of your screen name.

A good Bern once in a while is nature's method of renewal and regeneration and it looks like we have a serious case of rot.

Old enough to say, "no more".

Really? See anything stupid in your post?

Shouldn't take long to find.

How old are you?

In general, Bernie voters are intelligent folks, but many gullible people got frightened by the threat that they will go to hell if they do not vote for Hillary Clinton and voted for her.

My wife was telling me that she had a patient today that was saying that they was all for Bernie until they heard that, "Bernie Sanders called Hillary a whore." My wife makes it a habit of not to talk politics with her patients, but when they bring it up she corrected the patient and told them that Bernie didn't say that it was someone speaking at a Bernie Sanders rally, she also pointed out that if a politician is taking money for services, they're not that far off from being a whore, I'm sure she put it much more eloquently.

As are all working people who ' take money for their services'.

to post crap like this?

It is true. Madeleine Albright threatened women that they will go to hell if they do not vote for Hillary.

Thanks to Bernie, I actually decided to become more active.

has gone, hopefully you'll join us in supporting Hillary against Trump or Cruz.

You've got a crystal ball?

Senator Sanders has motivated a significant percentage of voters. Those of us who support Bernie are well aware that we have a lot of hard work ahead of us. We're no longer willing to accept the status quo, and we don't want a lying corporatist war-monger in the White House -- particularly one with the spectre of indictment hanging over her head like the sword of Damocles.

She has made some very wrong decisions".

lt a) literally and b) specifically with regards to Hillary and not about women supporting other women . This type of binary thinking is what we used to believe was typical of Tea Partiers. I'm saddened to see our party now having its own version.

And if they don't show up to the polls, she will not win in November.

If that's what you are hoping for.

But, yes, I hope for all our sake.. she never becomes president. I couldn't think of a worse person to have in the white house.

The only chance we had to keep the GOP out of the White House was to take Hillary's candidacy and ambitions and put them down like Old Yeller.

You and all of her supporters have failed America.

I can think of lots of worse people and that's not even counting Cruz or Trump.

Ted Nugent, Paul Ryan, George Bush, Jeb Bush, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann. I can go on.

And these folks don't understand why we don't take them seriously.

We are not comparing Hillary to Trump or Cruz. We are comparing her to Bernie.

and your trying to distract from that is not working.

And from what I can tell , Hillary is winning.

I read the subthread, I'm not sure what you read, unless it was how to win friends and influence people.

Yeah, you aren't winning at that, but I get it that you think winning is everything.

Problem is, what are you actually winning?

Not some nice dreams and no plans for getting there.

You don't believe anyone can get anything done unless they have big money behind them.

Some of us think you are wrong.

Because you have nothing else I guess.

Maybe you are lying to yourself

Able to read the minds of others, and then pass their holy judgement.

Hilarious.

and voting for.

Sorry, you have all lost credibility with me a long time ago. The condescension here has been so thick, you could cut it with a knife.

Why I don't you try to read my mind again and tell me what's wrong with my thinking as you did above.

They are not "the same", but they both lead to very VERY bad results for America.

Can't keep track. They keep on coming up with these semi-nasty labels nowadays.

I have never kept silent in my life.

Lead on Bernie - whichever way we should go after tonight. I actually think he should stay. Indictments could come.

Just, as a group, they were more accepting. It was the boomers who became the hippies and then the yuppies and thus made more "noise".

This place can become the echo chamber for the new right. Who cares.

Sorry to see you go.

Thanks for reminding me why I could never have supported Bernie.

I am also a lifelong Democrat (Generation X) but I'm leaving the party that no longer represents my values regardless of what happens. I know several other people here in NC who are doing the same. This election has been a real eye-opener in so many ways. I hope both parties crash and burn and we end up with more than a two-party system.

No longer stands for anything of substance.

I intend to fight this insurrectionist fight every day to drive Clinton and her supporters out of the party until they're dead or I am or they get the fuck out.

I'm just tired of them seeing a "D" by my name, assuming they have my support for this bullshit.

I think they need to see what a minority party they've become...then we take it back.

New Democrats for 20 years, I just can't stomach the Democratic Party anymore. If my daughter wants to fight it from within the party I say go for it. I would rather just try and find another party that fits me better.

Give up. You are such a disappointment.

I just won't be a Democrat and I really don't care what you think as far as your disappointment. Many Democrats don't want liberals in the party so they should be happy so many of us are leaving. The Green Party should also be thrilled because that's where many of us are headed.

That's obvious

Leaving to support intolerance and hate? That is the choice. Best of luck.

You do realize you don't have to be registered as a Democrat to vote for Democrats? I am well aware of what is going on in my state and will vote accordingly. However, I will never vote for Hillary and I will no longer give money to the Democratic Party or vote a straight ticket.

It seems that many Hillary supporters are like Republicans in that everything is black and white with no shades of gray. No longer being a Democrat does not equal no participation. There are other ways to fight conservative bullshit in both parties.

I'm so disgusted with all the variations of "you HAVE TO vote for the Democrats' nominee, or all hell will rain down upon you!"

I have been un- or under-employed since 2008, and I've seen our party do little to nothing to address the malfeasance of the bankers (and their political peers) who've tanked our economy (let's not forget "impeachment is off the table" Pelosi, either) and left MILLIONS of us struggling to keep food on our tables and roofs over our heads.

In short, that tired old canard will no longer motivate many of your "Democratic" peers -- those of us who've seen the brick wall behind the curtain (nee Zappa).

again.

tonight.

Perhaps your white privilege shields you from the possible fallout of a Trump presidency, but not everyone is as fortunate.

If Trump gets in, my marriage is probably gone and maybe even sodomy laws will make a comeback. So I feel ya, believe me.

One note is all that is needed for simplistic "bernie or bust" nonsense.

Cannot and will not vote for the not-so-lesser of 2 evils.

The corporate puppet masters have won

I will vote Democratic down ticket but I am absolutely not going to vote for Hillary. If the admins demand 100% loyalty they can go ahead and ban me, but I really hope they know that pushing away anyone who does not display that absolute loyalty is not good for the party's long term future.

If Senator Sanders is not the democratic party nominee I'm betting that Dr. Stein will see a windfall of support from progressive voters.

Can't do it..

in a party he just joined, and raised so much money but kept it for himself without helping down-ticket dems?

It was always as much about the fundamental and irreversible unacceptability of Clinton as the Democratic nominee.

It didn't have to be Sanders but it had to not be Clinton if you wanted our support in the GE.

than Sanders, which is why she just beat him soundly in New York.

She won't have my vote and I do believe there are enough like me that you will end lamenting not supporting an acceptable alternative.

anymore to elect a repug. We saw that in 2012 with Romney. The country is browning as we speak.

Apparently there are some angry, left wingers though, but they'll, unfortunately be left behind (their choice) as the Obama coalition will elect Clinton just as we did Obama in '08 and '12.

Right on! The Democratic Party left me 20 years ago with "third way" politics. I guess I will go now and lick my wounds.

I would vote for any Democrat if it means stopping Trump or Cruz from becoming president. In 2008 many of Hillary supporters were heartbroken, we still did the right thing. Obama was a better choice than McCain.

Rolling back ACA, abortion rights, immigration issues, etc. Even if my preferred candidate wasn't going to win the nomination, I'd sure as shit vote for Bernie because I don't want the whole country to suffer under Trump or Cruz.

Is that for some of us, there isn't a difference. It's a lace glove over the same conservative fist.

I would vote for any Democrat to keep Clinton, Trump or Cruz from becoming President.

Hillary is neither Trump nor Cruz. The comparison is actually offensive.

Based on trend lines, you are attempting to elect one of the most untrustworthy and unfavorably candidates in modern times. Her numbers hit their lowest since they started tracking her numbers in 2001.

Getting elected will be hard enough. Down ticket will suffer dramatically. Midterms will be a nightmare. We'll be out in the cold for decades.

If anything, no one polls as unfavorably as Trump.

To my point. if you feel she is going into the GE, on the heels of a two-term Democratic president, with that trend line, you should be very worried. Especially if your under the delusion that your competition is tRump. He has very little chance of winning at the convention. Everyone already knew he would win NY, especially after what Cruz said. His prospects going forward are a lot less in his favor. The competition is Cruz. Maybe even Kasich as his VP. Her national polling against them, which does matter in April, is pathetic.
Smaller Dem turnout and almost zero turnout with Independents will not carry the election against Cruz/Kasich. No coat tails will will brutalize us in state and national down ticket races. We will be out in the cold for decades.
At the end of day, if it is her, it's a no win situation unless her and Sanders can make nice and she can shift to the left and give up her center right policy positions.

They are banking on Trump. The delegates are only beholden to Trump on the first vote which he probably will not get. Cruz has been putting his delegates in line for the the second round of votes. Be prepared for Cruz unless the GOP steps in. Cruz is glide past Hillary, especially with all the civil lawsuits heating up. Bernie has not brought up her server debacle and lack of care for national security but you can damn well bet the GOP is.

This march for "It's my turn"Hillary is really bizarre. The Dems have an opportunity to bring in a flood of fresh blood with Bernie and they are like "No thanks, we like it here in our underground bunkers"...Go Hillary".

Way to go.

machinery, and you knew your agenda was going to have not just a seat at the big table but the catbird seat at that.

You were always getting everything you wanted anyway except the person you preferred but that different personality had the same agenda and appointed the same people.

Your only issue was that of avatar selection so it actually made zero practical or functional difference in the direction of the party.

The situations are not analogous.

We're not racists. Stop listening to blow hard Billo.

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as the campaign goes on! No sense deleting yourself