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ericson00

(2,707 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:30 PM Apr 2016

After NY, Now is the Time for All Good Democrats to Come to the Aid of the Party & Support Hillary!

Hillary has now won New York in landslide, and now is within striking distance of formally clinching the nomination. Her getting to the magic number is essentially an inevitability. The sooner Democrats unite to beat Donald Trump, the better. So much for the upset Bernie was gonna get. Hillary won with married men, married women, blacks, Jews, tied with whites (in margin of error), won across issues, in a state that has a solid cross section of the Democratic electorate.

Now is the time for all good Democrats to come to the aid of the party and support Hillary Clinton for President!

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After NY, Now is the Time for All Good Democrats to Come to the Aid of the Party & Support Hillary! (Original Post) ericson00 Apr 2016 OP
Like hell it is. think Apr 2016 #1
Democrats support Democrats... FarPoint Apr 2016 #29
Maybe it's time for you to go to bed Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #38
Hahahaha FarPoint Apr 2016 #42
Not a chance Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #44
With ya on that SciFiRK Apr 2016 #79
It's laughable that you think you can tell other Democrats what they must do or how the election think Apr 2016 #45
If you choose to obey ... FarPoint Apr 2016 #52
You're really creepy. Please go away. Obey..... think Apr 2016 #61
Sorry to hear you have issues. FarPoint Apr 2016 #64
Says the person with issues Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #80
Agreed TMontoya Apr 2016 #2
nope never 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #74
Yes, getting Hillary elected as president and the down ticket democrats. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #3
the people who hated hillary long before they ever heard of bernie will not respond to your call nt msongs Apr 2016 #4
vote hillary 3hummingbirds Apr 2016 #32
I was ready to support Hillary before Sanders announced. timmymoff Apr 2016 #36
Mkay. jmg257 Apr 2016 #5
Eh vercetti2021 Apr 2016 #6
Jury Results Gore1FL Apr 2016 #65
No Marrah_G Apr 2016 #7
Fall in line behind the conservative. Broward Apr 2016 #8
No. k8conant Apr 2016 #9
NOT GONNA HAPPEN..n/t monmouth4 Apr 2016 #10
Hillary wins states that look like the Democratic party. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #11
Yes, it's just too bad she doesn't look like the Democratic party. Raster Apr 2016 #17
Oh, Berned >:) Hydra Apr 2016 #25
ha glinda Apr 2016 #30
Ka-boom Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #35
LMAO!!! basselope Apr 2016 #12
K&R Carolina Apr 2016 #19
+ a zillion++++++++ 840high Apr 2016 #84
I will support our nominee. Some of you seem to not be able to do the same. Rex Apr 2016 #13
Rex, this isn't game for us. TM99 Apr 2016 #41
No shit, so why are we going to lose it all by being stubborn about the end results? Rex Apr 2016 #43
What you call stubborn others call principled. TM99 Apr 2016 #48
Nonsense, every politician is connected to the ownership society at her level. Rex Apr 2016 #58
We are done. TM99 Apr 2016 #70
Enjoy being irrational then, it won't have any impact on me or anyone else. Rex Apr 2016 #71
so you BELIEVE in Hillary-interesting indeed azurnoir Apr 2016 #78
There are a lot of people who might still like to vote. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #14
I'm with you! boston bean Apr 2016 #15
Now is the time to donate to Bernie and fight even harder all the way to the convention!!!!!!!!!!!!! amborin Apr 2016 #16
When pigs fly Carolina Apr 2016 #18
No. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #20
But we've been told over and over and over that we are not Democrats azurnoir Apr 2016 #21
Ouch! farleftlib Apr 2016 #92
The hell you say. frustrated_lefty Apr 2016 #22
Not no, but hell no. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #23
Now is the test of the boomerang. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #24
ROFL. Chan790 Apr 2016 #26
na ga da nt grasswire Apr 2016 #27
Not happening. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #28
And the "bad" democrats? Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #31
no glinda Apr 2016 #33
Forget it. Not now. Not till the last drop of CA! highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #34
These same Sanders supporters are on other threads complaining that Hillary supporters are not Trust Buster Apr 2016 #37
This is delusional nonsense. nt appal_jack Apr 2016 #39
Except Sanders is not going to do it, and as I have said before, his followers are like Squinch Apr 2016 #40
What dumb ass bullshit. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #50
^^^^ case in point. We got shit to do and we can't be wasting resources or effort on this nonsense. Squinch Apr 2016 #56
The only nonsense is believing Hillary Clinton is anything other than a corrupt BillZBubb Apr 2016 #60
Whatevs, Bunky. Enjoy your delusion. Moving on... Squinch Apr 2016 #63
Fuckin' bullshit. Splinter Cell Apr 2016 #46
Right FU**IN ON! workinclasszero Apr 2016 #47
No angrychair Apr 2016 #49
Lol Avalon Sparks Apr 2016 #51
Won't vote for a cheater AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #53
no GoldenThunder Apr 2016 #54
Now is the time for all good Democrats to come to their senses and elect Bernie. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #55
Good luck to you. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #57
LOL. What a kidder you are. That's a good one. Really funny. GoneFishin Apr 2016 #59
Nope. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #62
Otherwise will I go to hell? egalitegirl Apr 2016 #66
Not till the convention when it made official. LostOne4Ever Apr 2016 #67
I say until the voting is done democrattotheend Apr 2016 #87
Have you forgotten that the primaries are not over and there people who have yet voted? sueh Apr 2016 #68
Nope. There's a primary season going on bvf Apr 2016 #69
In all fairness, Hillary stayed in 2008 until all votes were cast. Beacool Apr 2016 #72
she stayed in because back then, many Democrats had legitimate doubts ericson00 Apr 2016 #73
all of your post is YOUR OPINION, nothing more. Raster Apr 2016 #75
Thank you Bea Marrah_G Apr 2016 #89
That's because emotions are high on both sides. Beacool Apr 2016 #93
I am waiting for "Home Town Hilliary," to question why 126,000 of her fellow NYC registered GoldenOldie Apr 2016 #76
No. n/t FourScore Apr 2016 #77
You're dreaming. Fuggedabout it! Not going to happen, till the last drop. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #81
No fucking way Pastiche423 Apr 2016 #82
This OP woiuld work better if it were set to the tune of "Good King Wenceslas" and you were wearing Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #83
Landslide? I guess she doesn't need my vote then. rickford66 Apr 2016 #85
Get back to me when she actually clinches it democrattotheend Apr 2016 #86
What's "a democrat"? I'm a liberal. whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #88
It's like kids who keep saying "are we there yet?" Waiting For Everyman Apr 2016 #90
Nope. Not now. Not in November. Not ever. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #91
 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
44. Not a chance
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:56 PM
Apr 2016

I'm a liberal democrat and always have been. I can't support someone that pushes for illegal wars and war profiteering. If you can, that's your thing. It ain't mine.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
45. It's laughable that you think you can tell other Democrats what they must do or how the election
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:56 PM
Apr 2016

will be handled.

FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
52. If you choose to obey ...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:02 AM
Apr 2016

So be it...I belong to the Democratic Party... I support the Democratic Party.... It's that simple.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
36. I was ready to support Hillary before Sanders announced.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:51 PM
Apr 2016

Then I got to see what a real liberal candidate was about. An honest candidate. She won't have my support. Maybe a vote. Maybe. I wouldn't hold my breath though.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
65. Jury Results
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:10 AM
Apr 2016

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basselope

(2,565 posts)
12. LMAO!!!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:34 PM
Apr 2016

Did you hear the one about the snowman in hell?


I will NEVER vote for Hillary for President and she will NEVER be president (thank the gods)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
13. I will support our nominee. Some of you seem to not be able to do the same.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:37 PM
Apr 2016

Shame. Both are great politicians that are shit on in here day in and day out. Hopefully there are enough of us that will support the nominee over the hyper-partisans running rampant on the ramparts in GD-P.

HRC won NY...that is reality. People need to develop coping skills when their pony doesn't win.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
41. Rex, this isn't game for us.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:53 PM
Apr 2016

This isn't a horse race.

The two candidates represent literally two different viewpoints of the left here in America.

Clinton might net +26 delegates tonight. This is no landslide. This is not over.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
43. No shit, so why are we going to lose it all by being stubborn about the end results?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:56 PM
Apr 2016

So it's a game if Trump wins? Cruz wins? Sorry, game over. Nobody put the hyper-partisans are calling it over...you won't see me saying that at all.

And sorry, but HRC is not even part of the ownership society...why are people pretending she is? Just because it fits?

Horseradishes.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
48. What you call stubborn others call principled.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:00 AM
Apr 2016

If Trump or Cruz wins, it is Clinton's fault. It is not those of us who do not vote for her and won't vote for her.

If you don't realize that Clinton is intimately connected to the ownership society you are simply blinded by party loyalty.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
58. Nonsense, every politician is connected to the ownership society at her level.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:05 AM
Apr 2016

You don't think Bernie has his own SIG? Donald Trump is far more close to the OS then Clinton will ever be. What people fail to come to terms with is that the people that rule over the country are not the politicians we put into office. And then do something about that.

I know many think HRC is the wrong way to go...I felt that way in 2010 then I looked into her background for myself and there is nothing there. She makes a lot of money at speaking engagements. I can't get angry about that.



 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
70. We are done.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:19 AM
Apr 2016

You are the enemy of the left.

If you believe Hillary Clinton is just another benign pol, just giving some speeches, and equivalent to Sanders, then you are just not seeing reality as it is.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
71. Enjoy being irrational then, it won't have any impact on me or anyone else.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:21 AM
Apr 2016

She is not a corrupt warmongering wall street power monger...but believe what you want to, at least I went and did my own research instead of relying on other people to tell me what to believe in.

Done.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
78. so you BELIEVE in Hillary-interesting indeed
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:18 AM
Apr 2016

it explains why Hillary's supporters believe Bernie can say the word and his supporters will flock to Hillary

amborin

(16,631 posts)
16. Now is the time to donate to Bernie and fight even harder all the way to the convention!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:38 PM
Apr 2016

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
18. When pigs fly
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:41 PM
Apr 2016

You couldn't pay me to support her. IWR did it for me and is the main reason I didn't support her in 2008. Her love of war and regime change is much worse now not to mention the fact that she is owned by all those corporations that paid her big $$$ for 'speeches' (more likely quid pro quo promises). So there is no way I will vote for her ever

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
21. But we've been told over and over and over that we are not Democrats
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:42 PM
Apr 2016

so now you're demanding that we prove our love -reminds me of my ex-husband

frustrated_lefty

(2,774 posts)
22. The hell you say.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:42 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary is vile, a friend to the banksters, a friend to big pharma, a friend to corporations in general.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
26. ROFL.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:47 PM
Apr 2016

Oh...I'm sorry. I thought you were kidding. That's the funniest shit I've read today since my cousin sent me a Facebook invite to a "Gays for Cruz" event to raise support for Senator Ted Cruz in advance of next week's primaries here in CT.

These are both about as likely to happen with my involvement.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
37. These same Sanders supporters are on other threads complaining that Hillary supporters are not
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:51 PM
Apr 2016

treating them well enough tonight to garner their support. Gee, guess why that might be ? Just read this thread and you will have the answer to your question on the other threads.

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
40. Except Sanders is not going to do it, and as I have said before, his followers are like
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:52 PM
Apr 2016

those Japanese soldiers who came down from the mountains in the '70s and asked if World War 2 was over.

Dirtiest, nastiest campaign of my lifetime, and I fear he won't stop it any time soon.

I think we need to simply accept that there are some (not even most, but probably most vocal on this site) Sanders supporters that are never going to vote for her. Let's leave them to beat the dead horse and let's move on. We have work to do in the general and can't be wasting more time on this nonsense.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
50. What dumb ass bullshit.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:02 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary has run a dirty campaign. Sanders has been very easy on her. He should be screaming about the FBI investigation and the corruption of the Clinton Foundation, but like the emails, he won't go there.

Evidently you have the world's shortest memory. The dirtiest Democratic campaign was run by Hillary and Bill in 2008. But that's OK, you Hillbots can't remember anything, that's why you can support Ms. "Golden Sacks".

Bernie needs to stay in the race and offer all the voters a real Democratic alternative against the Third Way republican money grubber.

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
56. ^^^^ case in point. We got shit to do and we can't be wasting resources or effort on this nonsense.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:04 AM
Apr 2016

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
60. The only nonsense is believing Hillary Clinton is anything other than a corrupt
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:07 AM
Apr 2016

republican in disguise.

Splinter Cell

(703 posts)
46. Fuckin' bullshit.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:58 PM
Apr 2016

She is a lying criminal that stands for nothing but her all-consuming ambition. I am a REAL democrat that knows what this party used to stand for. Just because a lot of fools think voting for a war-mongering elitist that wouldn't piss on the working class is ok, because there is a "D" next to their name, doesn't mean I'll throw away my values to vote for slime. Nominate someone distinguishable from the GOP, and I'll be there. Otherwise, good luck trying to polish this turd.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
62. Nope.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:08 AM
Apr 2016

Some people haven't had a chance to vote yet. And some people were prevented from voting. I will not support Hillary with money or campaigning or any of that stuff; the best I can do is vote against whatever orc the Republicans come up with.

 

egalitegirl

(362 posts)
66. Otherwise will I go to hell?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:10 AM
Apr 2016

Will I be sent to a special place reserved for me in hell if I do not vote for Hillary?

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
67. Not till the convention when it made official.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:11 AM
Apr 2016

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#009999]Bernie is a long shot but his chances are still not zero.

Further, even if it were zero, the voters in the states that have no voted still deserve to have a chance to have a say and vote in this primary.

And, even if it was impossible, every vote for Bernie is another person saying the type of democratic party they want. Bernie was never supposed to get this far, and the fact that he has just shows how upset a huge portion of the democratic voters are with the establishment.

To ignore that, is to risk bringing upon the democratic party in a future election what the Republican party has brought upon itself this election with Trump.

I will be with whoever gets the official nod at the convention or till one of them drops out, but till that happens I will be pushing Bernie all the way.[/font]

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
87. I say until the voting is done
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:42 PM
Apr 2016

If he is behind in the pledged delegates and popular vote after the DC primary I think he should bow out gracefully and use the support and power he has earned he has earned to influence the party platform, help unite the party, and support progressive down-ballot candidates.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
69. Nope. There's a primary season going on
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:14 AM
Apr 2016

and a little thing called a "convention" yet to be held. You should look that up to see what it means.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
72. In all fairness, Hillary stayed in 2008 until all votes were cast.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:27 AM
Apr 2016

Sanders has the right to do the same. Hillary will be the nominee, there's no doubt about that, she has more than double the pledged delegate lead that Obama had in 2008. But, it's not a smart thing to push too hard. People need to feel that they had a chance to vote for Sanders in their state. Shorting the process would be counterproductive. Hillary will need Sanders' supporters in the GE, just like Obama needed hers.

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
73. she stayed in because back then, many Democrats had legitimate doubts
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:32 AM
Apr 2016

about whether Obama, the front-runner, could win. That was the unsaid part. Also, the Clintons were/are party heroes then and now.

Doubt about the front-runners ability to win is not widespread as it was in 2008. Therefore, Bernie has no business staying in.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
75. all of your post is YOUR OPINION, nothing more.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:49 AM
Apr 2016

The Clintons party heroes? Seriously, not in my book. I have been a faithful party member for over 40 years. THEY ARE NO HEROES OF MINE. Sorry, buddy, not in my book.

And the doubt about the "front-runner's" ability is just as much a concern now as it was then, perhaps even more so. If Hillary Clinton is our party's nominee, she will be one of the most - if not the most - hated Democratic nominees in my lifetime. All this hoopla over Hillary's latest "win" don't mean shit in the General Election.

No, Bernie has very right and every business to stay in the race until the convention. And neither you, nor Hillary, nor Brock, nor anyone can take that away.

Bernie is staying in, because many of us DEMOCRATS have legitimate doubts.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
89. Thank you Bea
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:46 PM
Apr 2016

I think you "get it" because of the 2008 primary trainwreck that was DU. I don't hate Hillary, I just want to be able to cast my vote and see this through. Then, if Hillary is the candidate I will try to switch to her. It's a strange thing to see some Hillary supporters now be as mean as many of the Obama supporters were back then.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
93. That's because emotions are high on both sides.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:11 PM
Apr 2016

Hopefully, once the nomination process is over, we will unite as a party. As we did in 2008.



GoldenOldie

(1,540 posts)
76. I am waiting for "Home Town Hilliary," to question why 126,000 of her fellow NYC registered
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:00 AM
Apr 2016

voters were scrubbed and not allowed to vote????


If she does'n't even care about the citizens from her "Home State," who were not allowed to cast their very basic right to vote, why would anyone think she gave a damn about anything that involved any average middle-class or poor person as POTUS???? Same with Trump. Just asking???

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
83. This OP woiuld work better if it were set to the tune of "Good King Wenceslas" and you were wearing
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:56 AM
Apr 2016

a floppy felt jester hat.

You need a bugle, too.

Huzzaah!

Just a suggestion.

rickford66

(5,524 posts)
85. Landslide? I guess she doesn't need my vote then.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:39 PM
Apr 2016

I'll probably vote Green Party. They need to stay on the NY ballot.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
86. Get back to me when she actually clinches it
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:41 PM
Apr 2016

Before that, to quote Hillary, surely you don't "want to end this race because they don't want people to keep voting," now do you?

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
90. It's like kids who keep saying "are we there yet?"
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:57 PM
Apr 2016

You're at least 2+ months early.

It doesn't take much to win a "home" state, in a closed primary, where only 29% of those in the party vote, where major voting irregularities take place, and most of Bernie's voters are not eligible. Color me unimpressed by that "landslide".

Spoiler: Hillary is going to walk right into a buzz saw as soon as she takes on Trump (he'll hit her with all the things the FBI wants to talk to her about). And btw, she could take on Trump now if she wants to, no one is stopping her.

I think she should go ahead and bravely do that.

Sanders is going to run his campaign wihout her input all the way to the convention, as he has always said. Get over it.

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