2016 Postmortem

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:43 PM Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders did better in NY than Obama.

2008 NY Democratic Primary:
Clinton: 57%
Obama: 40%

17 point difference

2016 NY Democratic Primary:
Clinton: 57.6%
Sanders: 42.4%

15 point difference

Bernie Sanders was also running against a candidate with Secretary of State experience, which Obama wasn't.

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Bernie Sanders did better in NY than Obama. (Original Post) Eric J in MN Apr 2016 OP

Obama wasnt from NY. Bernie was. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #1

Did they work so hard to keep Obama supporters from voting as they did Bernie supporters? Skwmom Apr 2016 #3

Who is this "they?" Indydem Apr 2016 #6

Hugh, Agent Mike, and all the people just like them. L. Coyote Apr 2016 #16

Please! It happens so often and so blantently in the general election no one here has a problem Maraya1969 Apr 2016 #21

Obama had lived there more recently jfern Apr 2016 #7

Obama went to Columbia University, so he had a NY connection, too. NT Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #9

Oh wait a minute...it was Hillary's home state...wasn't Bernie's yada yada yada... bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #20

K & R for facts. Was feeling pretty good. Now, I'm feeling much better. Thx. desmiller Apr 2016 #2

Hillary won more votes than All Republicans Combined in New York tonight. nt onehandle Apr 2016 #4

Credible showing by him. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #5

I noticed that too. NY matters because of delegates, not so much because it's a closed primary. L. Coyote Apr 2016 #8

Yes, I wish every state had open primaries and Election Day registration. NT Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #13

The 2008 primary was in early February. grossproffit Apr 2016 #10

Obama also had the delgate lead going into New York. NT Adrahil Apr 2016 #11

The election was stolen. Many people were not allowed to vote because someone changed onecaliberal Apr 2016 #12

There is absolutely NO proof to this. Indydem Apr 2016 #17

There IS a shit load of proof. onecaliberal Apr 2016 #19

In a well carried out crime... Triana Apr 2016 #23

Will be interesting to see just how many, to be sure. L. Coyote Apr 2016 #18

I was surprised by his numbers. Rex Apr 2016 #14

Obama is not running. zappaman Apr 2016 #15

interesting, thanks for this info; HRC's 15 point win is rather embarrassing for her amborin Apr 2016 #22

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)

1. Obama wasnt from NY. Bernie was.

Reply to Eric J in MN (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:44 PM

Apr 2016

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)

3. Did they work so hard to keep Obama supporters from voting as they did Bernie supporters?

Reply to JaneyVee (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:46 PM

Apr 2016

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/caucus/2016/02/03/editorial-something-smells-democratic-party/79777580/

Indydem

(2,642 posts)

6. Who is this "they?"

Reply to Skwmom (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:47 PM

Apr 2016

You know you sound like a sour grapes lunatic, right?

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)

16. Hugh, Agent Mike, and all the people just like them.

Reply to Indydem (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:50 PM

Apr 2016

Maraya1969

(22,483 posts)

21. Please! It happens so often and so blantently in the general election no one here has a problem

Reply to Indydem (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:02 AM

Apr 2016

believing it is true. The only ones that say it is not true is the republicans that set up the disenfranchisement because they obviously do not want anyone to know they cheated.

I don't really know what happened but I believe it is unfair to throw names at a person in hopes of
de-legitimizing what they say.

jfern

(5,204 posts)

7. Obama had lived there more recently

Reply to JaneyVee (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:47 PM

Apr 2016

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)

9. Obama went to Columbia University, so he had a NY connection, too. NT

Reply to JaneyVee (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:48 PM

Apr 2016

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)

20. Oh wait a minute...it was Hillary's home state...wasn't Bernie's yada yada yada...

Reply to JaneyVee (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:00 AM

Apr 2016

desmiller

(747 posts)

2. K & R for facts. Was feeling pretty good. Now, I'm feeling much better. Thx.

Reply to Eric J in MN (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:46 PM

Apr 2016

onehandle

(51,122 posts)

4. Hillary won more votes than All Republicans Combined in New York tonight. nt

Reply to Eric J in MN (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:46 PM

Apr 2016

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

5. Credible showing by him. nt

Reply to Eric J in MN (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:47 PM

Apr 2016

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)

8. I noticed that too. NY matters because of delegates, not so much because it's a closed primary.

Reply to Eric J in MN (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:48 PM

Apr 2016

Clinton would not be able to win NY if it were an open primary with same day registration.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)

13. Yes, I wish every state had open primaries and Election Day registration. NT

Reply to L. Coyote (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:50 PM

Apr 2016

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)

10. The 2008 primary was in early February.

Reply to Eric J in MN (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:48 PM

Apr 2016

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)

11. Obama also had the delgate lead going into New York. NT

Reply to Eric J in MN (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:49 PM

Apr 2016

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)

12. The election was stolen. Many people were not allowed to vote because someone changed

Reply to Eric J in MN (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:49 PM

Apr 2016

Their registrations.

Indydem

(2,642 posts)

17. There is absolutely NO proof to this.

Reply to onecaliberal (Reply #12)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:53 PM

Apr 2016

None.

Half baked conspiracy theories.

Stop it. He lost. Go home.

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)

19. There IS a shit load of proof.

Reply to Indydem (Reply #17)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:58 PM

Apr 2016

and trust me when I say, I couldn't be bothered to give two shits about your misinformed opinion. #blocked

Triana

(22,666 posts)

23. In a well carried out crime...

Reply to Indydem (Reply #17)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:34 AM

Apr 2016

...there is always "no proof".

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)

18. Will be interesting to see just how many, to be sure.

Reply to onecaliberal (Reply #12)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:53 PM

Apr 2016

Not that that matters. The beauty stealing an election is you never have to give it back.

Rex

(65,616 posts)

14. I was surprised by his numbers.

Reply to Eric J in MN (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:50 PM

Apr 2016

I didn't think he would do as well as he did in NY.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)

15. Obama is not running.

Reply to Eric J in MN (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:50 PM

Apr 2016

He served 2 terms and that is the limit for a President.
Now you know!

amborin

(16,631 posts)

22. interesting, thanks for this info; HRC's 15 point win is rather embarrassing for her

Reply to Eric J in MN (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:33 AM

Apr 2016

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