Even though he's behind by a margin that would be all but impossible to overtake, given the things we don't know yet, I would feel safer having a "runner-up" candidate nearby. I don't want October to come and suddenly find ourselves without a candidate.

and its forced globalization.

that sell out American industry, jobs and people.

Stop TPP!

incentive to chase Third World labor around the globe with or without trade deals.

It's not only good for our economy, it is a sovereignty and national defense issue.

It is kind of funny that "anti-socialists" would rail against the government controlling our means of production, but are quiet when the Communist government of China control our means of production.

And if they don't stop currency manipulation...

... cancel normal trade relations and place an import duty on all products coming from china.

Import duty levels can be tailored depending on the product.
High tech products can have a lower duty (ie. tv sets, cell phones, and computers)
Durable goods and consumer products can have a higher duty.

for the same work. It will be a huge boon to business as they will be able to get three or four workers for what they pay one today. Because of procurement being included in trade deals all those proposed infrastructure programs will likely use guest worker subcontractors because they work for much less. If American firms want that work the next President will have to eliminate the minimum wage.

Either that or US firms will need to automate them completely. Which will eliminate those kinds of jobs for good.

Google:

"Mode Four" AND "movement of natural persons"

You can't tell companies which employees to use since they are supranational.

As long as its not permanently. For example, a company from a less developed country, say Bangladesh, can staff your hospital with nurses for you and you pay the company the US minimum wage.

What they pay their workers is between them and their employer, who likely pays them into their bank accounts back home, so its not information you even know.

That is Mode Four.

"Disciplines on domestic regulations" are being devised to make it happen.

what's been happening in the world the last 20 years.

Because of the US media blockade on news of it.

You can't get more forced than what's happening.

Dismantle the public services and safety nets fast.

... but money flows sure can be.

The largest export of developing countries in terms of monetary value is expected to be services.

Services which it is claimed will create a huge increase in total wealth.

Example: http://www.thefinancialexpress-bd.com/2015/06/01/94876

The Editorial Board

'Mr. Sanders’s presence has made this an immeasurably more substantive race, in which both candidates’ policies have been better vetted, and as a result, better delineated. That’s the best preparation for the general election.

Mr. Sanders has voiced the concerns and energized millions of young people, many of them voting for the first time. His candidacy has forced the party to go deeper on addressing issues like wealth inequality, college tuition costs and the toll of globalization — important points of distinction with Republicans. What’s more, Mr. Sanders’s commitment to small individual contributions has put the lie to Democrats’ excuses that they, too, must play the big money game to win. This is a message too seldom heard in the party that first championed campaign finance reform. That it’s back is long overdue, good for Democrats and good for campaigning. Mrs. Clinton “is clearly irritated by the fact that she has to deal with this guy,” the Democratic strategist David Axelrod said in an interview. “But he’s pushed her on a lot of issues in a positive way, and I think that his young supporters will be bitterly resentful if anyone tries to shove him out of the race.”

Voters are keeping these also-ran candidates going.'>>>

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/20/opinion/sanders-and-kasich-should-ignore-any-pressure-to-quit.html?

That way, more people will hear his message that we should:

- break up the biggest banks
- make public colleges tuition free
- legalize marijuana
- end the death penalty
- end mandatory minimums
- ban fracking

Plus:

Medicare for all provides better care for less $$

Create a revenue stream with a small financial transaction tax

Stabilize Social Security by raising or removing the taxable income cap

Investing in badly needed infrastructure repair and replacement to create hundreds of thousands of good jobs

Stop trade agreements that cost American jobs

RAISE THE FUCKING MINIMUM WAGE!

I'm so tired of the calls for Bernie to go away. They're so afraid because Bernie makes her look like the crook she is. And he's been taking it a lot easier on her than I would've.

There are not only current potential indictments that we know about but there may be some we don't know about. There may be a transaction by transaction investigations of her's and Bill's speeches, their "foundation" and ties to decisions made while she was Secretary of State such as the Swiss bank UBS situation.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/hillary-helps-a-bankand-then-it-pays-bill-15-million-in-speaking-fees/400067/

The bottom line is there are too many risks for her getting elected let alone being allowed to govern due in large part to her's and Bill's actions. Is it true they registered corporations in Delaware? If they did, the only reason one does that unless they live in Delaware is to evade and/or avoid something.

Not this shit again.

Sorry that your ignorance overwhelms you. I covered Watergate and Nixon's impeachment and I know how it can and will work. You should do more homework!

I suggest you take your own advice. This is hardly the same as Watergate and Nixon's impeachment.

Apparently we no longer live in a true democracy, and everyone should just STFU and accept without question the candidate selected by the Powers That Be and shoved down our throats.

Got it.

And you guys wonder why Hillary has become so unpalatable for a lot of people. Her supporters have had a definite hand in that.

Congratulations.

No one else. No one shoved anyone down anybody's throat. I understand you're upset your candidate lost his chance for the nomination. But trying to distort that with false accusations is unbecoming.

And the DNC and media did not decide that Hillary was to be the candidate and effectively do anything they could to shut Bernie out including dispatch hundreds of minions to denigrate him, his record, platform and candidacy from day one.

Some of us have been paying attention, and this entire primary season has left a horrible taste in my mouth. I've had candidates lose before -- and ones that I was way more invested in than I was Sanders -- so you can shove that assumption where all assumptions belong. It is the attitude from Clinton -- her sense of entitlement to the nomination -- and the way this primary was handled by the aforementioned Powers That Be that has me questioning my loyalty to the Democratic party for the first time in my 35 years of voting.

Don't worry -- Clinton will get my vote in the GE IF she is the nominee. I have never NOT voted in a GE and I'm not about to start now, but I will be holding my nose as I pull the lever.

and that is what the MSM and the Clinton's are hoping for. That 2.5 million are many who are not aware of all the crap that is going down in this election because it is being suppressed by Clinton's her cohorts (billionaires, corporations and MSM).

People are not as researched on what is really transpiring behind the scenes. Corruption. Our Country is really down on the list for integrity in elections..

And I think what makes me saddest of all is that for a lot of people -- specifically, the millennials that the Clinton camp loves to sneer at so vehemently -- this is their first exposure to the primary process, and I fear it may be their last. They don't understand -- like those of us that have been amongst the voting masses for longer than they have been alive -- that the nastiness they are being subjected to is "politics as usual."

We all fret about low voter turn out and what to do about it. When young people witness voters being shut out of the process in primary after primary, what is their likely takeaway to be? We stand a good chance of losing them for good........and when that happens, we all lose.

Even though you think the candidate is a huge mistake -- win or lose the GE -- that the Democratic party will regret for years to come, just follow the party line and all will be well.

Got it.

gets elected. How about you?

QUIT NOW. SURRENDER BERNIE!

“My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don’t understand it [calls to drop out].” She said this at a time when Obama had a pretty much insurmountable lock on the pledged delegates as well. Pretty hypocritical for Hillary supporters to try to push Bernie out now, when nobody fought harder than she did in 2008 to make sure every state got a voice.

It bothers me a lot, I'm epileptic and yes I'm being 100% serious.
That flashing.....
Thank you.

Yet she fought on until the end. In fact, she accused Obama supporters calling for her to drop out of "not wanting people to vote."

"My take on it is a lot of Senator Obama's supporters want to end this race because they don't want people to keep voting," (Clinton) told CBS affiliate KTVQ in Billings, Mont. "That's just the opposite of what I believe. We want people to vote. I want the people of Montana to vote, don't you?"

At this point, for him to continue is just vanity on his part. (And taking bad advice from incompetent campaign advisors.)

Time to focus our energy and money on the GOP and winning the General Election.

He's playing games. He's not serious.

her negative ratings are YUUUUGE! Better pray that Trump can hold on, because she can't beat Cruz or Kasich.

Was she "playing games?"

Just repeat your call for him to drop out without addressing why Hillary had every right to continue well past the point when she had any mathematical chance but Bernie doesn't.

And ignoring reality ... but that's another topic entirely.

before dropping out, and I agree with the things she said then about wanting everyone to have the chance to vote before dropping out. So my point is, why was it ok for her to stay in but it's time for Bernie to drop out? Why do you disagree with your own candidate about letting everyone vote?

It's not about votes or voices, it's never been. It's all about Bernie. It's not about the nomination, it's about Bernie. (He's a smart man. He's not dumb. He knows he's not going to win the nomination. The only question now is how much he's willing to damage and divide the party, and how much he thinks it benefits him by tearing-down the PARTY'S CLEAR CHOICE to be our nominee.)

It's a shame really.



NY was a closed primary, you guys are gonna have to deal with that. We don't have a national primary, that's just the way it is, and the votes from the later states just don't have the same weight or statistical importance when it's OBVIOUS who the nominee is going to be. (And trust me... it's OBVIOUS! It ain't gonna be Bernie.) Again... that's just the way it is, that's the way the math works out. Sorry. Deal with it.

Kwitcherbellieachin and move on.

Goodbye.

Why did she not drop out once it was clear that Obama had an insurmountable delegate lead?

I was going to keep it up throughout the election regardless of the nominee, but the snarky comments from his staff all morning only made me think of petulant children who threaten tantrums if things don't go their way. These past couple of weeks have been so far removed from how I pictured a Bernie campaign, I'm starting to wonder who is running the show.

Thanks for the unsolicited advice anyway.

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First, he isn't dropping out. So cry me a river.

Second, this is bigger than Bernie. We love him, not just for who he is, but what he represents. He represents political ideals that used to be associated with the Democratic party.

Third, now that he's shown us how things could be/should be, we aren't going away, win or lose. We will either force the Democratic party to move away from things like fracking, cozy relationships with Wall Street, bad trade deals, and war mongering policies, OR we will form a new party that carries the ideals that the Democratic party used to.

It aint over. It's just beginning.

The important thing is to put a Dem in the White House...We heard the Bern, and he lost. Time to suspend and work to elect the Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton...even if he tones down his rhetoric and he sicked the lawyers on her yesterday as a 'primary ' surprise...his surrogates won't. We need to elect a Democrat...he only hurts that effort going forward.

See #3.

What's the point of electing a "Democrat" if that person is not a Democrat but rather a moderate Republican? And this is not rhetoric. I've laid out specific issues that used to be strictly gop talking points. Now they are part of Clinton's platform. If anyone disagrees, I'm open to discuss any of those issues I cited.

I'd vote for Hillary if she really was a Democrat. She is not.

I mean, at this point, he has NO CHANCE to win. And he should acknowledge that by changing the nature of his campaign. He should start directing his fire against the GOP candidates. Ya know, the ones who are the ACTUAL enemy. He could actually do a lot of good by keeping his supporters engaged and focusing their ire on the GOP instead of the fake outrage at Clinton.

If he continues to attack her as he has been, he's an asshole and proving he's only in it for himself. It is time for him to be a gentleman, and drop out and give Hillary 100% of his support. It's time to rebuild and win in November!!!

Of course not the same as him when it came to gun bills. She is not rightwing.

It is when she did not vote with Bernie that counts. She voted for wars and Wall Street corporate welfare including the Bush bailouts.

Please explain how that isn't sexist.

How low will you go for her? You sound like Sarah Palin.

This is a smear;



How she opposed TPP, sold weapons in shady deals, was involved with the Honduras coup, how she makes $250k per speech and voted for Iraq isn't a smear, these are facts. There's nothing falsifying in that, no matter how you spin it.

He must change the negative smear campaign he's currently running, that's for sure. If he doesn't do that, it is proof positive that he doesn't care a whit about the Democratic Party and is happy to drive it into the ground for his own ego.

But if he tones down the divisive crap and focuses on his own pet issues, I'm happy enough for him to continue. Not because I want him in the race, good god no. I find him incredibly off-putting, but then I've never liked angry, ranty old men. But because we will need at least some portion of his supporters to vote Hillary, and I don't want Hillary's camp to give the impression that she's forced him out of the race. I want him to lose, fair and square, as he's been doing so far, so that his supporters know that the chosen candidate is the will of the people.

Go Bernie go, all the way to the convention!

Imagine yourself as 2008's runner-up, and plan to maximize your influence on a Democratic administration.

The FBI must indict... no way out.

But, if next Tuesday goes the way I think it will, Bernie should tip his hat to Hillary. I think this is a fair position.

I almost always agree with your posts. You say it the way I wish I'd said it, lol.

But he will not do it, because it is all about him and his ego.

Democrats do not behave this way.

Ah, but then. Sanders is not a Democrat, is he and he does not have our best interest at heart, does he.

Let all the states vote and all the people who'd like to vote D in the fall for a person not bought by big money. Keep going Bernie.

now

Oh wait...

And those delegates will be voting on the party platform and other issues at the convention.
If Camp Weathervane thinks Sanders is rough, they'll be in for a rude awakening against Trump. Poor delicate flowers.

... but, this is no longer a race for the nomination.

He can continue hoovering up as many votes as he can get and have a strong progressive influence at the convention, but he needs to change the tone of his rhetoric and refrain from bullshitting his supporters.

His choice now is whether to positively build his movement or burn down the establishment to the detriment of his legacy.

Is your candidate using too much of her mud reserve, it is time for yours to drop out before she it she first femal candidate to cost the DNC the presidency, the house, and the senate.

I will vote my conscience so I can live the next four years knowing I did the right thing.

If so you are doing a bang up job!!

She doesn't need our votes, right?!? Go for it!

keep on I guess.

Does condescendence and arrogance come with an off switch??

Bernie is bringing up important issues that would otherwise be ignored.

Clinton supporters can't control everything and they're not going to be able to control the Sander's campaign.

I'm sure they don't find that appealing, but just like the toddler who throws a tantrum because he can't get a Snicker's--you need to get over it and realize that you don't always get everything you want--just because you want it.

But then if he is still behind I think it's time for him to bow out gracefully. I don't see any point in staying in after people are done voting. However, I do not think he should release his delegates. In the unlikely event that Clinton is indicted or otherwise has to drop out, he will still have all the delegates he has won and thus will have the strongest claim to the nomination of anyone, whether or not he is still running. Moreover, even assuming she does win the nomination and is nominated at the convention, I still want Bernie's delegates counted at the convention.

In 2008, she accused Obama supporters calling for her to drop out of "wanting people to stop voting." Guess it's now her supporters who want people to stop voting.

You are right about responsibility for our votes. But that doesn't mean that Hillary is a shoo in for Pres ... and won't mean that Berners are responsible should she lose. That's a false equivalency. Hillary has to win the election. We don't have to vote for her if we choose not to.

He should keep campaigning though, and continue to build a movement. The primary campaign is just a distraction to that at this point.

He should have dropped out after the bro revolutionary army failed to show up and save his ass in Nevada.

But I will accept a surrender now at this late date!

run her through the mud bernie.

It's my right to do so.

If that makes me evil, so be it.

P.S. I live in a solid blue state.

say he wants his name put in on the floor, but start supporting Clinton and working on registering voters and working down ticket. Give him a few days to think it over and get on board. Anything else would be narcissism.

been running into brick walls again have you?