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Bernie's swan song.. (Original Post) DCBob Apr 2016 OP
Oh, you! :-P NurseJackie Apr 2016 #1
Bless your heart. There's more to come. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #2
How about these charts of upcoming states.. DCBob Apr 2016 #6
How about them. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #10
Yes, and Hillary is New York New York. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #3
And now Democrats can forget about those pesky things called issues Armstead Apr 2016 #4
Hillary's campaign has been focused on issues from the very beginning. DCBob Apr 2016 #5
You mean chickens in every pot? Armstead Apr 2016 #7
These issues.. DCBob Apr 2016 #8
I've seen those issues -- Some I like, some I don't, some I don't much care about personally Armstead Apr 2016 #9
and a different chicken for every pot at that azurnoir Apr 2016 #13
... SidDithers Apr 2016 #11
Nice! DCBob Apr 2016 #12
 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
4. And now Democrats can forget about those pesky things called issues
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:35 AM
Apr 2016

"If you work hard and play by the rules, I'll be there for you because I am so effective and wonderful."

"Oh those Republicans are so bad."

That'll be the Democrat platform.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
5. Hillary's campaign has been focused on issues from the very beginning.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:57 AM
Apr 2016

I guess you Bernie folks weren't paying attention.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
7. You mean chickens in every pot?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:06 AM
Apr 2016

Same thing is going that happen that always happens. It's like Bill Clinton's endless laundry list State of the Union speeches combined with his Dick Morris V-Chip campaign.

A lot of nice little micro proposals and bright shiny objects, while not discussing the Gorillas in the Room.

"Forget that I just signed laws that encourage Corporate and Banking Monopolies. Forget that I just signed another free trade deal that makes government more accountable to corporations to not interfere with their ability to make a profit. Forget that my economic team is made up of free-market conservatives and banksters."

The country needs a transplant and we'll get bandaids.



 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
9. I've seen those issues -- Some I like, some I don't, some I don't much care about personally
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:28 AM
Apr 2016

But ultimately they're mostly no more likely to see the light of day than Bernie's proposals.

The problem I have with the Clintons is the whole context they have created that has pushed the party overall to the right. It has made the Democrats an accomplice to a series of larger policies and a framewiork that has allowed the country to be sold out from under us...It's not only the Clintons personally, but the while machine and mentality they represent.

And before you accuse me of being an unrealistic malcontent or something -- I am at heart a moderate liberal who has agreed totally with the spirit expressed by Obama in his Big Picture speeches. (But I do wish Obama had more Bernie and less Clinton in him.)

The problem is that in actual practicethe rise of the "centrists" over the last three decades has been contrary to that message in the actual workings of Democratic politics and their cumulative effect on government and the larger society.

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