2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumEnd The Talking Point: Crowd Size
After last night's large defeat for 'native son' Bernie Sanders, can we officially end the talking point about crowd size? For weeks now, all we've been hearing about is the massive size of the crowds Bernie has been drawing. It didn't make a difference in Texas, or Florida, or Ohio, but it was supposed to matter here in NY. This was different.
No, it's wasn't.
Bernie's big crowds look to be the entirety of his support in some areas of NYC, and they were not even close to enough to have him catch up to Hillary's support. Also, let's keep in mind that in the most populated city in the country, Bernie was drawing crowds that Syracuse University draws for a random basketball game... when there's a foot of snow on the ground.
Crowd size does not matter. It has been proven.
Votes matter.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Just don't pretend it doesn't exist, when Sanders has won more delegates in some contests.
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)He draws crowds in every place, but only wins in some places. Therefore, it doesn't have any effect.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)It's a factor, but only one factor.
IamMab
(1,359 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)That's a big one too!
ecstatic
(32,707 posts)at the rallies. Not just from Bernie, but from his surrogates and fellow participants. The negative tone might be a turn off.
Can someone describe what Bernie's rallies are like from a neutral perspective?
peace13
(11,076 posts)Hillary Clinton...not so much. But trust that she will have your best interests at heart later.
rock
(13,218 posts)Welcome aboard.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)50,000 people in Washington Square Park! Yahoo!
Bernie lost every borough in New York City. He didn't win a county south of the Tappan Zee. His New York losses were massive: 60-40 in Brooklyn, 70-30 in the Bronx, 66-33 in Manhattan! (Psst: Washington Square Park is in Manhattan). A complete ass kicking.
The more they make the crowd size argument, the sillier they sound.