2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDear Bernie:
Taking a break from the campaign after yesterday's NY primary seems like a good idea. I hope you get some rest from the hard campaigning you've been doing. I also hope you'll spend some time thinking about this primary race and where it's heading. I know you're not a man who runs from a challenge, but perhaps it's time to take a look at the reality of this primary season.
Your campaign advisers seem to be trying to convince you that superdelegates will somehow be convinced to switch their support for Hillary Clinton to you at the convention. You know some of those superdelegates from your many years in Congress. Call them. Ask them what the chances are that they'll switch away from the pledged delegate leader. Really, though, I think you know. You know these people. You've worked alongside them. They all know their own minds and will do as they think best.
Then, think about November and the chance that one of the Republicans still in the race might be running. Think about what this country will look like if Republicans control all three branches of federal government. I know you understand what that would mean. You've been observing how the government works from inside of it for many, many years.
Please think long and hard about these things and see if you don't decide that it's time to begin working hard to bring Democrats and other progressives together to prevent the disaster a Republican-controlled federal government would be. Ask yourself whether continuing to campaign against the Democrat who is almost certain to be the nominee is a good idea in reality.
I urge you to take this day off from the campaign and use it in thoughtful consideration of these things. I believe that if you do, you'll understand what your next step in this primary season should be. Whatever you decide, good luck to you. You've made a valiant effort and have obtained a good measure of success.
Thanks for your consideration, Senator Sanders.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)The OP is insufficiently irritating to its targets, the Sanders supporters on DU.
merrily
(45,251 posts)purport to advise him.
On the other hand, since you posted this on DU, rather than attempting to communicate with the campaign, Sanders and his campaign obviously are not your actual target audience. Not sure what you hope to accomplish by pretending otherwise, but, by all means, go for it!
*well, there was that relative brief period between all the times you posted circa 2014 that he was not even going to carry Vermont and the brief time after that that you declared yourself to be a Bernie supporter for whatever reason, but I think we can safely discount that brief time you "strayed" from your otherwise consistent support of Hillary.
As an actual supporter of Sanders, I don't want him to quit. Ever.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)post an open letter to a Democratic primary candidate. You don't like what I wrote. I'm very sorry about that, but I will post on DU what I choose to post on DU. You know that about me.
I have standing, both here and as a long-time Democratic voter. That is all the standing I require.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I find you take many paragraphs to say what you could say in one. So I didn't find the need to read your post.
No, you have no standing to purport to advise the candidate whom my money has supported to get out of your candidate's way. I'm sorry you don't seem to get that, but whether you get it or not is beside the point. You don't have to agree water is wet in order for water to be wet. You have no standing. See also Reply 7.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)President, you see, is not like a U.S. Congress Member, beholden only to voters in one Congressional district, or even a Senator who is beholden only to voters in one State.
So everybody has standing to advise.
My advice to Sanders would be to rechart the direction of his movement.
merrily
(45,251 posts)You and MM don't want him to be President of all the people and neither of you has any standing on the subject of when he should end his primary campaign against your candidate. Only his donors do. Surely, you must see that.
But, whether you see it or not is irrelevant. That has been the case in every primary of which I've ever heard.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)He doesn't have to listen.
I expect he won't.
But we all still have the right to advise the man, just as we have the right to advise or criticise Clinton or Trump or Cruze or anyone who wants to be everybody's President.
merrily
(45,251 posts)That's true, whether you choose to admit/accept it or not.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)she should drop out.
I won't go through the farce of pretending I am writing a letter to her, though.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)But you certainly have the right to bring your concerns to Clinton, who is running to be Everybody's President.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)are allowed to address the candidate? I don't know, but I think there may be something wrong with that thinking.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Why did you do that?
Did you think I was not going to notice?
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Take a hike!
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Will that do?
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Yeah...I'm sure he'll read this.
merrily
(45,251 posts)way and is taking immediate steps to end his campaign.
No, really.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... it's difficult for me to understand why so many here enjoy antagonizing you.
PS: That was a very nice note.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)when writing to a political candidate, I certainly try to be.
Still, I don't feel antagonized by the replies in this thread. They're helping my open letter get viewed by other DUers. I'm always grateful for all replies.
merrily
(45,251 posts)antagonize a majority of DU.
Never lose that perception!
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)to read the OP. I told Bernie nothing. I asked him to consider some things and then make a decision.
merrily
(45,251 posts)is most unlikely to come to Bernie's attention or matter to him if it does. What will matter is what his donors tell him by the donating, and his own intent.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I would not presume to tell him what to do. He is a grown man, four years older than I am. I'm sure he stops to consider things often. I know I do.
But, you see, you said that you did not bother to read my original post. You said that the title line was enough for you to know what I said. I maintain that you are incorrect about that. You've misconstrued what I said, and more than once in this thread.
There is a distinct difference between asking and telling someone anything. It's the difference between being polite and rude.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I have already addressed your tell ask nitpick, so I am not sure what you hope to gain by repeating it. If it's last wordism, be my guest. I have but so much patience for pointless repetition.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)We have interacted quite a few times, and I have made no bones about it. I have been an unabashed unaffiliated individual. I have generally voted for the Democratic candidate on the General Elections as they tend to be the lesser of two evils.
It is only on this primaries that I found myself willing to place a (D) on my name, opening me up to the tribalism once one joins a party. There is a reason for that. It is only now that I have found a candidate that has the values, integrity, priorities, record and humanity that I can get behind on. The closest I've had to that was when John Kerry was running in the General Elections. (How could someone with so many overwhelming positives, get done in by attacking the self-same values that makes them great?)
I have done the early voting for MD, so I am quite happy to say that I actually voted with my conscience this time. You know what? It feels amazing. Why would I advocate for someone to lose the chance to do so? That feels like shades of suppression and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
This self-same calls of leaving the race has been repeated ever since the first states were won by Clinton. At that time, it was too early, and at this time, it is still too early. Most know, that one of the primary reasons Clinton left the race in 2008 was because she was bleeding money and was going broke. In fact, they were getting in to trouble for not paying venues, staff and other incidentals. That is not the case with Sanders. Sanders is still flush with funds to use for the primary season.
I do not see a need for him to leave the primaries, and I would like to keep people involved in the election process voting. Even I was inspired enough to volunteer as an Election Judge, and took the day off to do so next week. Why would I want to limit that? In many ways, calls such as these tend to seem arrogant(no matter how mildly worded) and evoke a sense of entitlement that is distasteful. People will come to the fold or not dependent on their time frame, and it is on them.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)3hummingbirds
(58 posts)I hope Senator Sanders does not leave the race. I want my chance to vote!