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B2G

(9,766 posts)
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:58 AM Apr 2016

So what do you want Skinner to do?

Ban supportive Sanders posts? Shut down the primary forum since it's 'over'?

You are asking him to 'call it'. Then what happens?

How can you even propose something like this while Sanders is still in the race? Do you WANT this place to implode?

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So what do you want Skinner to do? (Original Post) B2G Apr 2016 OP
After the primaries are over we should have Election 2016 to replace GD:P. In_The_Wind Apr 2016 #1
And I'm sure there will be B2G Apr 2016 #2
Historically at DU, when it's clear who the Democratic nominee will be gollygee Apr 2016 #3
It's not clear as much as you wish it were. The only thing we came closer tonight is a contested Zira Apr 2016 #20
Uh huh rock Apr 2016 #42
We are on a website called Democratic Underground, no asterisk indicating CTyankee Apr 2016 #23
The admins of this website have already requested MineralMan Apr 2016 #4
If next week's primaries go for Clinton, perhaps Skinner will make the move. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #16
Could be. That's the admins' decision, not mine. MineralMan Apr 2016 #18
the nom will be determined at the covention restorefreedom Apr 2016 #5
Tonights' Powerball is 200 mill. trumad Apr 2016 #7
Purely delusional. Hillary is the presumptive nominee, no matter how deep you stick your head tritsofme Apr 2016 #9
you can declare all you like restorefreedom Apr 2016 #12
The race is over workinclasszero Apr 2016 #15
he is taking a well deserves rest restorefreedom Apr 2016 #19
Sanders is running a vanity campaign at this point. tritsofme Apr 2016 #26
Cut the crap Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #6
At some point, close this entire forum down and start a general election forum instead. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #8
I want Skinner to do just what Skinner has been doing. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #10
It backfired big time in NY BainsBane Apr 2016 #14
I love the transparency of DU, but I'm not so sure you should, nor your ally there: Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #34
I'm not sure what you are going at here but thanks for the reply. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #36
Constantly calling other DU'ers out as hypocrites whilst assuming a mantle of KittyWampus Apr 2016 #37
Whatever was done in 08' should be done now MadBadger Apr 2016 #11
I want him to declare the place in GE mode and tell people to stop trashing the nominee BainsBane Apr 2016 #13
taking a day off is not leaving the race restorefreedom Apr 2016 #21
I don't even have cable TV BainsBane Apr 2016 #27
too bad california has all those delegates. nt restorefreedom Apr 2016 #29
71 % BainsBane Apr 2016 #32
we will see. he has a number of huge wins. besides restorefreedom Apr 2016 #40
ENFORCE THE TOS workinclasszero Apr 2016 #17
Skinner already announced no changes til after the convention AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #24
No, he didn't. BainsBane Apr 2016 #33
I think one of the segments of people who should reread his statement are those with ever Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #35
Hillary supporters are just being condescending and arogant AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #22
Nothing. Dem2 Apr 2016 #25
I think folks should still be able to support Sanders.... Adrahil Apr 2016 #28
Fix the jury system, at least. Sanders supporters are abusing the system to hide posts they dislike. IamMab Apr 2016 #30
I noticed a blatant example of that yesterday Dem2 Apr 2016 #41
Ban bashing of the presumptive nominee. auntpurl Apr 2016 #31
Except that any post calling out Hillarys flipflops, or policy positions is called "bashing". As is peacebird Apr 2016 #39
How about they just let the process play out? demwing Apr 2016 #38
 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
2. And I'm sure there will be
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:02 AM
Apr 2016

But the primaries are not over yet. And they won't be until someone either drops out or secures the nomination.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
3. Historically at DU, when it's clear who the Democratic nominee will be
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:03 AM
Apr 2016

You can no longer bash the Democratic nominee or say you won't vote for them in the general. I assume, based on that, they want people to stop bashing Hillary and saying they won't vote for her in the general. So they want him to say that he believes Hillary will clearly be the nominee and it's time to start enforcing that.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
20. It's not clear as much as you wish it were. The only thing we came closer tonight is a contested
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:28 AM
Apr 2016

election. The DNC voter fraud -turning over 100 thousand Dems to independents in Brooklyn alone, didn't make hillary the winner of the whole primaries, only this stolen primary. Deal with it. Her numbers are STILL snowballing down hill. Sans voter suppression there is no reason to believe Bernie will be out of this race.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
23. We are on a website called Democratic Underground, no asterisk indicating
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:29 AM
Apr 2016

a qualifier if we don't get what we want for our candidate...

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
4. The admins of this website have already requested
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:10 AM
Apr 2016

that DUers "tone down" their attacks on the Democratic candidates. That request appears to have gone unheard, though. The next step is to stop "requesting" and demand that ugly attacks on candidates stop.

I doubt that will happen today, but at some point, it will. Then, it will be up to DUers to decide whether participation here is a good thing or not. In a few cases, some will probably decide to amp up their attacks, forcing the admins' hands, and will no longer be able to post here. Most DUers, however, will decide to stick around and the rhetoric will become somewhat more polite and less full of animosity and bile.

When that happens, I believe we'll see a fairly large number of DUers return to the discussion, instead of avoiding it altogether. I'm hopeful that will happen, sooner than later.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
16. If next week's primaries go for Clinton, perhaps Skinner will make the move.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:26 AM
Apr 2016

But not holding my breath.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
18. Could be. That's the admins' decision, not mine.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:28 AM
Apr 2016

Like the rest of us, I'm just a guest on their website. I try to follow their wishes as far as rules and suggestions go. I like DU. I hope to be here for many years to come.

I assume the admins are thinking about this and where they want the site to go down the road. I'll just leave the decisions up to them and continue participating.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
5. the nom will be determined at the covention
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:16 AM
Apr 2016

and after that, i am sure there will be some forum rearranging.

until then, its primary time

sorry if hillary supporters aren't cool with that. this never was, and never will be, a coronation.

tritsofme

(17,379 posts)
9. Purely delusional. Hillary is the presumptive nominee, no matter how deep you stick your head
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

in the sand. All this denial and angst from the Berners would be humorous if it was not so pathetic.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
12. you can declare all you like
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:23 AM
Apr 2016

this is still a two person race, with a number of states left to vote and one of the persons under criminal investigstion by the fbi, so lets just see how it all shakes out.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
15. The race is over
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:25 AM
Apr 2016

Why do you think Bernie and company are licking their wounds in Vermont today instead of being on the campaign trail??

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
19. he is taking a well deserves rest
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:28 AM
Apr 2016

and strategizing for the weeks ahead. he said he is in until the convention, and since he is trustworthy and not a liar, i take him at his word

oh and i got an email this morning saying they are going to ca and the convention, and again, i believe them

tritsofme

(17,379 posts)
26. Sanders is running a vanity campaign at this point.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:30 AM
Apr 2016

He's down hundreds of delegates, millions of votes, and has no path to the nomination.

He can keep "running" and flushing his supporters money down the toilet as long as the rubes keep writing checks.

But at this point the only purpose of Bernie's campaign is to cut paychecks for his consultants.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
6. Cut the crap
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

with the gratuitous slash and bern nonsense, the personal attacks, the I WILL NEVER's!!, the fox news-worthy RW garbage, the continuous backbiting, the trash talk thrown at our presumptive nominee...

In short, enforce the TOS.

No one has a problem with supporting Sanders.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
10. I want Skinner to do just what Skinner has been doing.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:19 AM
Apr 2016

I believe Sanders is being destroyed by his own and the image being promoted is very clear here. It is a narrative of the bigger picture. I want people to keep promoting Sanders in this way. It is beyond unfair to Sanders what Weaver and his supporters are doing but it is helping Clinton big time.

Over the last couple of months Sanders has become Mr. Negative campaign. How negative he has become was being talking about on the evening news with Lester Holt last night and on many other outlets as well.

Sanders isn't going to stand for his integrity to continue to be impugned by Weaver and his supporters for much longer. He will make a dramatic shift and start working to bring the non-Paul aspect of his support back into the fold.

I kind of like the transparency of du. It's nice to know who is hoping for indictment and who uses Judicial Watch as a go-to source. I won't be upset if Skinner brings it to a close but the transparency is nice.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
34. I love the transparency of DU, but I'm not so sure you should, nor your ally there:
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:57 AM
Apr 2016

Transparent Nasty:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=279260&sub=trans

BB's Greatest Hits:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=291098&sub=trans

It's just odd that people who can't carry on a civil conversation do carry on about how nasty others are. Irony, thy name is Camp Clinton!

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
36. I'm not sure what you are going at here but thanks for the reply.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:01 PM
Apr 2016

Appreciate it.

You should really look at one of the ops of mine that was hidden in there. You will not like why it was hidden at all. It's the new du.

Be well my friend.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
37. Constantly calling other DU'ers out as hypocrites whilst assuming a mantle of
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:12 PM
Apr 2016

Sanctimony is not civil conversation.

The irony is, since you've done this to me numerous times I finally got around to pointing out your own lack of intellectual consistency to you, yet you still persist.

Since your post was about transparency…

Still waiting for you to denounce Sanders fawning over Pope Francis.

Just one of many, many posts where you vigorously denounce Pope Frances and his views and politicians who'd associate with him.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12215843#post4

I could try and find your posts about Rick Warren but m'eh. I don't like doing this sort of thing much. But for you, I make the one exception as posted above.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
13. I want him to declare the place in GE mode and tell people to stop trashing the nominee
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:23 AM
Apr 2016

and I want people to abide by that.

Sanders is at home in VT. Does that sound like he's in the race to you?

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
27. I don't even have cable TV
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:31 AM
Apr 2016

Sounds to me like you're talking to yourself.

He can't win. Whether he gets back on the trail or not, he's finished.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
32. 71 %
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:37 AM
Apr 2016

That's the percentage of remaining delegates he needs to win the nomination. Clinton can win only 29% at still be the nominee. Even if Bernie got all the delegates in California, he'd still be 500 delegates short. And of course he won't get all of them. Chances are he won't even get 50% of them.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
40. we will see. he has a number of huge wins. besides
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:12 PM
Apr 2016

if he really couldn't win, camp hillary would not be on every 5 seconds trying to convince us he can't win. if it was really impossible math, they would smile and let him go through his paces, confident in knowing that he truly can't win.

except they know he still can.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
35. I think one of the segments of people who should reread his statement are those with ever
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:00 PM
Apr 2016

expanding transparency pages. It's just a thought.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
25. Nothing.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:30 AM
Apr 2016

This is why people come here - to fight about nothing.

I have no idea why anybody would want to put the kibash on that.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
28. I think folks should still be able to support Sanders....
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:31 AM
Apr 2016

But I think it's time for the Bernie or Bust posts to go, and It's time to reign in the more egregious name-calling posts, IMO.

The fact is, Hillary is gonna take the nomination. Ripping her up now only serves to help the GOP.

 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
30. Fix the jury system, at least. Sanders supporters are abusing the system to hide posts they dislike.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:32 AM
Apr 2016

NOT based on TOS violations.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
31. Ban bashing of the presumptive nominee.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:32 AM
Apr 2016

Post 500 supportive Sanders posts a day, for all I care. Just stop bashing Hillary. She's going to get enough of that from the Repubs. We don't need to do it to a member of our own party.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
39. Except that any post calling out Hillarys flipflops, or policy positions is called "bashing". As is
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:16 PM
Apr 2016

virtually any video posted if Hillary in her own words, if it doesn't hapoen to agree with whatever todays position on whatever the issue is.

Anything not flattering to Hillary is 'bashing', or 'misogenystic'. No matter if it IS 100% the truth.

Yet most Hill supporters seem to think the smears & innuendo against Sanders are perfectly fine, even if there is no truth to them.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
38. How about they just let the process play out?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:12 PM
Apr 2016

Let's not pretend that the national media is watching DU to see what we say about the primary, ok? If any candidate gets their campaign damaged by what happens here, then they're weaker than any of us feared.

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