2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSo what do you want Skinner to do?
Ban supportive Sanders posts? Shut down the primary forum since it's 'over'?
You are asking him to 'call it'. Then what happens?
How can you even propose something like this while Sanders is still in the race? Do you WANT this place to implode?
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)But the primaries are not over yet. And they won't be until someone either drops out or secures the nomination.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)You can no longer bash the Democratic nominee or say you won't vote for them in the general. I assume, based on that, they want people to stop bashing Hillary and saying they won't vote for her in the general. So they want him to say that he believes Hillary will clearly be the nominee and it's time to start enforcing that.
Zira
(1,054 posts)election. The DNC voter fraud -turning over 100 thousand Dems to independents in Brooklyn alone, didn't make hillary the winner of the whole primaries, only this stolen primary. Deal with it. Her numbers are STILL snowballing down hill. Sans voter suppression there is no reason to believe Bernie will be out of this race.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)a qualifier if we don't get what we want for our candidate...
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)that DUers "tone down" their attacks on the Democratic candidates. That request appears to have gone unheard, though. The next step is to stop "requesting" and demand that ugly attacks on candidates stop.
I doubt that will happen today, but at some point, it will. Then, it will be up to DUers to decide whether participation here is a good thing or not. In a few cases, some will probably decide to amp up their attacks, forcing the admins' hands, and will no longer be able to post here. Most DUers, however, will decide to stick around and the rhetoric will become somewhat more polite and less full of animosity and bile.
When that happens, I believe we'll see a fairly large number of DUers return to the discussion, instead of avoiding it altogether. I'm hopeful that will happen, sooner than later.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)But not holding my breath.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Like the rest of us, I'm just a guest on their website. I try to follow their wishes as far as rules and suggestions go. I like DU. I hope to be here for many years to come.
I assume the admins are thinking about this and where they want the site to go down the road. I'll just leave the decisions up to them and continue participating.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)and after that, i am sure there will be some forum rearranging.
until then, its primary time
sorry if hillary supporters aren't cool with that. this never was, and never will be, a coronation.
trumad
(41,692 posts)Can you give me the numbers in advance?
tritsofme
(17,379 posts)in the sand. All this denial and angst from the Berners would be humorous if it was not so pathetic.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)this is still a two person race, with a number of states left to vote and one of the persons under criminal investigstion by the fbi, so lets just see how it all shakes out.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Why do you think Bernie and company are licking their wounds in Vermont today instead of being on the campaign trail??
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)and strategizing for the weeks ahead. he said he is in until the convention, and since he is trustworthy and not a liar, i take him at his word
oh and i got an email this morning saying they are going to ca and the convention, and again, i believe them
tritsofme
(17,379 posts)He's down hundreds of delegates, millions of votes, and has no path to the nomination.
He can keep "running" and flushing his supporters money down the toilet as long as the rubes keep writing checks.
But at this point the only purpose of Bernie's campaign is to cut paychecks for his consultants.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)with the gratuitous slash and bern nonsense, the personal attacks, the I WILL NEVER's!!, the fox news-worthy RW garbage, the continuous backbiting, the trash talk thrown at our presumptive nominee...
In short, enforce the TOS.
No one has a problem with supporting Sanders.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I believe Sanders is being destroyed by his own and the image being promoted is very clear here. It is a narrative of the bigger picture. I want people to keep promoting Sanders in this way. It is beyond unfair to Sanders what Weaver and his supporters are doing but it is helping Clinton big time.
Over the last couple of months Sanders has become Mr. Negative campaign. How negative he has become was being talking about on the evening news with Lester Holt last night and on many other outlets as well.
Sanders isn't going to stand for his integrity to continue to be impugned by Weaver and his supporters for much longer. He will make a dramatic shift and start working to bring the non-Paul aspect of his support back into the fold.
I kind of like the transparency of du. It's nice to know who is hoping for indictment and who uses Judicial Watch as a go-to source. I won't be upset if Skinner brings it to a close but the transparency is nice.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Transparent Nasty:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=279260&sub=trans
BB's Greatest Hits:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=291098&sub=trans
It's just odd that people who can't carry on a civil conversation do carry on about how nasty others are. Irony, thy name is Camp Clinton!
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Appreciate it.
You should really look at one of the ops of mine that was hidden in there. You will not like why it was hidden at all. It's the new du.
Be well my friend.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Sanctimony is not civil conversation.
The irony is, since you've done this to me numerous times I finally got around to pointing out your own lack of intellectual consistency to you, yet you still persist.
Since your post was about transparency
Still waiting for you to denounce Sanders fawning over Pope Francis.
Just one of many, many posts where you vigorously denounce Pope Frances and his views and politicians who'd associate with him.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12215843#post4
I could try and find your posts about Rick Warren but m'eh. I don't like doing this sort of thing much. But for you, I make the one exception as posted above.
MadBadger
(24,089 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)and I want people to abide by that.
Sanders is at home in VT. Does that sound like he's in the race to you?
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)please, turn off msnbc...it will do you a world of good
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Sounds to me like you're talking to yourself.
He can't win. Whether he gets back on the trail or not, he's finished.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)That's the percentage of remaining delegates he needs to win the nomination. Clinton can win only 29% at still be the nominee. Even if Bernie got all the delegates in California, he'd still be 500 delegates short. And of course he won't get all of them. Chances are he won't even get 50% of them.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)if he really couldn't win, camp hillary would not be on every 5 seconds trying to convince us he can't win. if it was really impossible math, they would smile and let him go through his paces, confident in knowing that he truly can't win.
except they know he still can.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)or rename this board to Libertarian/Green Underground!
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Reread his statement.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)expanding transparency pages. It's just a thought.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Pay them no mind
This is why people come here - to fight about nothing.
I have no idea why anybody would want to put the kibash on that.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)But I think it's time for the Bernie or Bust posts to go, and It's time to reign in the more egregious name-calling posts, IMO.
The fact is, Hillary is gonna take the nomination. Ripping her up now only serves to help the GOP.
IamMab
(1,359 posts)NOT based on TOS violations.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)That is unfortunate
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Post 500 supportive Sanders posts a day, for all I care. Just stop bashing Hillary. She's going to get enough of that from the Repubs. We don't need to do it to a member of our own party.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)virtually any video posted if Hillary in her own words, if it doesn't hapoen to agree with whatever todays position on whatever the issue is.
Anything not flattering to Hillary is 'bashing', or 'misogenystic'. No matter if it IS 100% the truth.
Yet most Hill supporters seem to think the smears & innuendo against Sanders are perfectly fine, even if there is no truth to them.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Let's not pretend that the national media is watching DU to see what we say about the primary, ok? If any candidate gets their campaign damaged by what happens here, then they're weaker than any of us feared.