What is legitimate to ask is did DWS have any power over changing the rule so that people could switch registrations later?

Would the NYS board have changed the rule had DWS asked?

Anyone who pays any remote amount of attention to politics knows who he is. He used the Democratic party as a springboard for votes and attention. Are we supposed to feel bad that it was a strategy that backfired because a lot of his supporters feel no real affiliation with the Dems and would have cast a one-time vote for a Democratic candidate, then returned to being Independents? He also declared his candicacy in April 2015, BTW.

probably be good to stretch for a bit.

Glad to see "real gratitude" from people who are now trying to label him as some republican plant to ruin Hillary.

Apparently you think that only people with party affiliation are legit voters and that the true face of Hillarey supporters are in line with the repubiucan voter suppression agenda.

Good luck in November - WITHOUT the millions of peope who COuld have voted for you iun November but you have now denied that vote because of your voter privilege to influence other people's future withoiut them having a say in it.
It must be great being god over others who don't get to vote, isn't it?

Your attitudes together with Hillary's even more disgusting attitude will surely not be a winning strategy come November.

Karma always comes back to bite in the most unpleasant ways if you set it up to be that way.

I don't feel that I have a right to go vote on a Green Party or GOP primary.

Your DNC better stop hoping to get those indy's in November since you think that voter suppression is OK as long as the voter suppression and rigging the system in your corrupt candidate's favor.

Not ever body are political junkies like the crowd in here. Some people also have lives. Most people try to get on with their lives and have gotten sick and tired of politicians who lies at every opportunity they get - Hillary included!

What you have been complaining about republicans are doing all these years, you are now endorsing. Tells me something about the true anti-democratic sentiments of Hillary supporters and DWS shills.


And when someone with a fresh voice comes along and ruins the entitled coronation of a political weather vane who don''t give a shit about you, your side have done nothing but act like brats in a mud fight, thinking you have earned our votes, or even earned a proper victory without cheating or rigging the system.
Something is wrong when in some states they can register the same day and you must register in October in NY, 6 month BEFORE the primary during a time when media had a complete blackout of Bernie.

If you don't see how rotten the whole system is, it must be because Hillary and DNX have warped your moral compass. You are making voting in the primary as something exclusive only for the members of the frat. It has become a cult and not a proper democracy

I have a plain solution to election shenanigans.


1. Automatic registration the year the voter turns 18.
2. Open election across the board where you can only vote once during the primary regardless of party affiliation
3. Independent, non party entity to oversea the election in every state.
4. Paper ballots with receipt.
5. REAL primaries and not caucus.
6. Equal and fair coverage from media across the board and not this media blackout they had towards Bernie the fist six months of the election.
7. Money out of politics. Publicly funded elections.
8. Equal debate time for ALL parties - including the Green and independent candidates.


P.S. Isn't it a violation of election laws to campaign at the voting station?
What are the legal consequences for gross violation of this law?

Is there any law against purging voters before an election?

There are plenty of good reasons for checks and balances, which I'm sure you're intelligent enough to look up. For example, where I live, the Democratic caucuses have occurred, but the Republican primaries have yet to happen. What's to prevent me from voting in both? In 2008, in Washington, after the caucus, they also held a Democratic primary a few weeks later (just window dressing, it didn't count). It was held at the same time and place as the GOP primary, and at that primary, I asked the election officials if they were going to check the Democratic caucus list of voters against the GOP primary voters, because to vote in both constituted a felony. They told me that they did not have the personnel to do it, and that they weren't going to.

Obviously, the chance for fraud there was huge. Anyone could have gone to the Democratic caucus in 2008, declared themselves a Dem for a day, then later gone to the GOP primaries and voted again. I'm sure a few people did. This is the type of scenario that make it a good idea for parties to regulate their candidate selection.

Having to follow a few rules to register is not suppression. You can say it and say it, but it won't make it so.

I don't buy your lack of logic in this one.

As long as there is a two party paradigme and gullible voters follow those as lemings, discarding an equal platform for other parties, that is the only way to go.

At least we know that you are not interested in expanding democracy but limit it to that exclusive club with purging power.

If you actually read my list, your "concern" is covered.

Both a paper ballot and an electronic ballot linked to your social security number.

In other words, one person, one vote. One choice.

"Voter fraud" arguments are something that only republicans are concerned about. I am more concerned about corrupt officals that favors one candidate over others, and try to suppress the potential voters for the competing, but stronger candidate. Its fairly stupid to spend a lot of money traveling from state to state just to vote repetadly. What hinders affiliated voters in doing the same?


Oh!

And get rid of super delegates!

I consider your post to be nothing but wind. Concern trolling I call it.

However, excluding a scenario where people were actually thrown off the rolls (by design or error), asking people to register for a party to vote in that party's primary does not constitute purging.

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Has been purged the last 6 months.

The issue is that the vote must be traceable and confirmed.

It's kind of a leap being "concerned" about voter fraud, and then turn around talking a about "Big Brother"..

The thing is that it will only state that you have voted. Not who you voted for. That is on your personal paper receipt. When the election is over, the trace of your vote will be deleted.

Here in Norway, I get my ballot automatically in the mail.
We don't get to vote for party leaders if we are not a member.

But remember, we have more than 10 parties and they all cackle in each other's mouths, Besides, we don't have the same election system as you do. We elect the PARTY, not a president or a prime minister.

You have only two parites, and they seek to disenfranchise anyone who don't fit into their mole from the poling station. Hence, the systemis rigged against the indy's both parties are desperately trying to woo after you have discarded them in the primaries. Not a way to attract voters.
What I miss from your post is a comment on how you must have been registered at least 6 months as party affiliate before an election, while in other states, you can register online and the same day as election. If you don't see a problem with that, then you are a part of the problem. And you have huge problems in your elections. I won't even call USA a legit democracy anymore since your procedures reminds me more about a banana republic than the "leader of the free world".

In this context, your "concerns" are nothing but faux concern equal to the RWers who makes up draconian bathroomlaws because they think transgender people will go in women's bathrooms and molest small girls.

One of the true moralists of our time.

I'm enjoying the series playing on youtube. Thanks, Bohemianwriter!

I keep playing George Carlin these days in order to keep what is left of my sanity...

He was a gift to all who loathe bullshit. Carlin is the anti-bullshit.

Thank you for passing the gift on to me. I am going to send the link to a friend who's been a little down of late.

Rx: an hour of Carlin a day.

from the reptiles in the Establishment who rigs systems in favor of their own...

People are buyinh into the smear campaigns and gets outrged and plays the victimcard through the media when their smears have been exposed.
Seeking to further alienate and keep people home come election day.

They are following the playbook of Paul Weyrich on his voter suppression agenda.

later...I'll bookmark this.

And I live on the opposite coast. How the shit were NY voters unaware of the main primary challenger until it was too late? Answer --t hey weren't paying attention.

I have!
And the last thing I ever thought of when in NYC was not politics. It was more about getting laid.

not difficult.

i dont agree that the deadline should have been in October, but it was not stolen. and people in NYC are capable of doing more than getting laid

well engaged in their quest for congress.

and now in Bernies home burrough have themselves to blame?

All 120 000 of them?

Way to go to accuse 120 000 potential democratic voters stupid!

The people who cries victimhood on behalf of people who sold out or vote against their own interests are not too good to call 120 000 New Yorkers stupid!

Is this the Hillary "outreach" campaign?

You're not attracting many people with a snotty attitude of a privileged insider who have enjoed insider privileges the entire time. It's apparent that you don't give a shit about expanding the party if it doesn't benefit your flip flopping repubican lite whose money comes from ill begotten cash from Wall Street.

blame is placed on the party leaders because they did not change the rules to cater to that non-party member.

does that encapsulate the whine?

Not sure what the other site is but I'm going to guess we are talking the Onion.

"The minor setback in New York"

That simply can't be seriously written by anyone.

we're not rolling over for filth. Sorry! We have other plans.

I understand the Sanders campaigns future is bright after this minor setback in NY.

Good luck moving forward.

We are up against an unbelievable amount of corrupt money and corrupt power with absolutely no conscience.

It's a true David and Goliath contest. So thanks for your well wishes, we will need all the help we can get.

Now run along, Goliath awaits you.

"we will need all the help we can get. "

Agree. That's why I'm voting for Clinton and you should as well. I will help my brothers and sisters all I can even if they are working against our own best interests.

How sweet ...

Don't know about you, but my best interests lie with the 99% of this country, the ones who have been, and are being, royally screwed by the Hillary crowd.

Add to that her penchant for lying, deceiving, bending the rules to serve her personal ambition and bank accounts, her unabashed greed, her vindictiveness that has much of Democratic D.C. intimidated, her gutter-level politics, her inability to genuinely hold any demonstrably democratic, compassionate, or even remotely noble values -- and I think a person would either have to have their head firmly in the sand -- or be totally nuts -- to support her.

But I could be leaving something out. It is entirely possible that some of her supporters share her views, if not her personal pathology. I suppose they would be the Third Wayers who are almost worse than Republicans because they pretend to be something they aren't.

So ... lol away, dear.

There just isn't much of a reply to what you have written. It has left me with a smile.

part of me wishes I could see your face when you wake up, and part of me would probably cry along with you, so maybe I don't want to see you when the time comes.

Pretty sure I'm fully awake. I understand from our brief moments you have psychoanalyzed me as being asleep. You know impress me.

Happy Wednesday.

and trumpets a blatantly dishonest "victory" for the Clinton machine.

It's supporters are doing their damnedest to stomp down every little bit of truth and hope that pops up in message boards like this one, as if the spirit of goodness were a weed they could destroy with one of Hillary's Monsanto products.

We ARE like a weed, like life itself, like everything that has ever been worth living for.

Money, power, and status are the gods of dead souls.

Thank you for this excellent OP, bkkyosemite! And let's not give up, ever.

that appeals to anything I love, value, and care about in this world.

It's sad. But I'm going to protect myself from bad noise.

Adios. Enjoy the Carlin video as we part ways and watch all the ones to follow, too. Enjoy!

This is in the 99%.

First thing I thought "this person is out of touch with reality"