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think

(11,641 posts)
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:07 PM Apr 2016

Amid voting issues, de Blasio calls for ‘major reforms’ at Board of Elections

Amid voting issues, de Blasio calls for ‘major reforms’ at Board of Elections

By LAURA NAHMIAS 5:52 p.m. | Apr. 19, 2016

Mayor Bill de Blasio said Tuesday that "major reforms" are needed at the City's Board of Elections, amid widespread reports of voter purges and problems at polling sites during voting in New York State's presidential primary.

“It has been reported to us from voters and voting rights monitors that the voting lists in Brooklyn contain numerous errors, including the purging of entire buildings and blocks of voters from the voting lists. I am calling on the Board of Election to reverse that purge and update the lists again using Central, not Brooklyn borough, Board of Election staff," de Blasio said in a statement Tuesday night.

The Board of Elections confirmed that it had removed 126,000 Brooklyn Democrats from its voter rolls since last fall, in part because the Board was "a little behind" in updating its voter registration records, the Board's executive director Michael Ryan explained to WNYC.

While election days are always tumultuous in New York City and rare is the electoral contest that passes without some kind of malfunction or SNAFU at city polling sites, there were some indications Tuesday afternoon that voters may be encountering even more problems casting their ballots than usual. ...

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/city-hall/2016/04/8597121/amid-voting-issues-de-blasio-calls-major-reforms-board-elections
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Amid voting issues, de Blasio calls for ‘major reforms’ at Board of Elections (Original Post) think Apr 2016 OP
If they did, it would boost Hillary's win by even more. nt onehandle Apr 2016 #1
...and this is from a Hillary SUPPORTER lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #2
Easy to call for putting new locks on after the burglary has occurred. / FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #6
Well, let's be honest and note that Hillary won Brooklyn 60-40 Dem2 Apr 2016 #7
That makes no sense at all. lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #11
Hillary's headquarters is in Brooklyn too, I think Dem2 Apr 2016 #12
I'm sure it's easier to manage BOE shenanigans when your office is a few blocks away. lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #14
Ridiculous conspiracy theory is all you got? Dem2 Apr 2016 #15
Uh...no - please note that a Hillary ally is demanding an investigation lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #16
Yes he wanted the person he supports, Hillary, to get more votes Dem2 Apr 2016 #17
Cool, so you will support a thorough investigation! lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #19
Of course Dem2 Apr 2016 #20
Or he may just think it's the right thing to do. So do the vast majority of us here. randome Apr 2016 #18
it's like with Clooney--once they're used up, they reveal just how dirty they feel MisterP Apr 2016 #9
Good Dem2 Apr 2016 #3
None of the delegates should be awarded to either. NY BUST! ViseGrip Apr 2016 #4
Haha too little, too late, ass covering tool whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #5
After The Fact..... global1 Apr 2016 #8
It was DEMOCRATS who were purged from the rolls. Dems to Win Apr 2016 #10
126K Dem voters removed... in Brooklyn... Ino Apr 2016 #13

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
2. ...and this is from a Hillary SUPPORTER
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:09 PM
Apr 2016

...I think it points to real, serious problems.

Amazing coincidence that the purges happened in the borough Bernie was born in.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
7. Well, let's be honest and note that Hillary won Brooklyn 60-40
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:11 PM
Apr 2016

so if anybody lost votes, it was Hillary.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
11. That makes no sense at all.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:54 PM
Apr 2016

If Bernie performed at less than statewide average, in his birthplace, something is obviously amiss.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
12. Hillary's headquarters is in Brooklyn too, I think
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:56 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie lost all of the boroughs by a margin like that or worse. It makes perfect sense and she actually lost votes because if more people voted she would have won by more votes. The end.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
14. I'm sure it's easier to manage BOE shenanigans when your office is a few blocks away.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:12 PM
Apr 2016

Brooklyn BOE: 345 Adams St, Brooklyn, NY 11201
Hillary HQ: One Pierrepont Plaza, Brooklyn, NY 11201

Looks like a ten minute walk

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
16. Uh...no - please note that a Hillary ally is demanding an investigation
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:22 PM
Apr 2016

He would have to have his back against the wall to do that!

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
17. Yes he wanted the person he supports, Hillary, to get more votes
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:23 PM
Apr 2016

So of course he's going to investigate.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
18. Or he may just think it's the right thing to do. So do the vast majority of us here.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:25 PM
Apr 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
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MisterP

(23,730 posts)
9. it's like with Clooney--once they're used up, they reveal just how dirty they feel
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:05 PM
Apr 2016

at having had the bayonets pointed at them

global1

(25,253 posts)
8. After The Fact.....
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:04 PM
Apr 2016

Why don't they call for major reforms before an election? He's just trying to look like he's concerned. There will be 4 years until the next time this issue comes up in such a visible way. Nothing will happen. Nothing will change. They'll have the same problems or worse then.

These types of problems are necessary in order to rig elections. They won't reform things - because then it would be too fair and they might not get a chance to call the shots.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
10. It was DEMOCRATS who were purged from the rolls.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:09 PM
Apr 2016

I'm furious this morning. Massive, widespread fraud and voter suppression, and nothing will be done about it. I can't respect the result of a primary when it looks rigged, plain and simple.

Very interesting, and infuriating, comment on a Guardian article last night. 20% of the Democratic voters in this precinct had to vote an affidavit ballot, which probably will not be counted.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/19/hillary-clinton-wins-new-york-primary-bernie-sanders#comment-72701065

Rheannon 14h ago

Hillary Clinton did not win this fairly. I just got off my 17 hour shift as an election official in East Hampton, NY. I am from this area and went canvassing for Bernie for 4 days here. While canvassing, I found overwhelming support for Bernie in my middle class area -- nearly every house where I actually talked to voters (about 40% of the houses), almost all were for Bernie.
But today at the polls, many of those had disappeared from the voter roll book. In my own ED district, which is the district I was working in, out of 166 Democratic voters, 39 were forced to file affidavit ballots. (ONLY 2 Republican voters had to file affidavits.) That's close to 20%. Let that sink in for a moment.
Many of these voters were long term registered Democrats -- some were in couples where one person was on the rolls and the other was not. Most had not moved since the last election and had voted in the most recent elections.
Hillary won by 11 votes in my ED -- not counting affidavits. THE AFFIDAVITS MUST NOT ONLY BE COUNTED, THEY MUST BE ALLOWED.
It was impossible for me, an election official, to get a straight story on whether the affidavits would be counted. The "coordinator" -- the top person at the site -- let slip that they count the affidavits "proportionately". If she is correct, that means, I assume, they take a sample of the ballots to count. Not all. If that sample is based on the proportion of official ballots cast, then I imagine it would just reproduce the first results WITHOUT the affidavits.
But it's worse than that. If the voter has been purged from the Board of Elections rolls -- like 125,000 Brooklyn voters were -- then it seems the affidavits (because no one could tell me for certain WHAT would happen to the affidavits -- are not counted. If you can't prove you are a registered Democrat, then you won't be counted, it seems. (If you received a voter card, you have some proof. But not everyone did or they may not be able to retrieve it.)
The ruling that came down from the emergency voter protection suit was no remedy. It allowed for getting a court order to vote. The nearest judge is more than an hour from here. And I was strongly discouraged from even informing voters that a court order was an option (I had to fight to be able to tell people of their right to a court order.)
Finally -- this was NOT business as usual. This was my second election. The last one I worked at, exactly ONE voter needed an affidavit ballot in my ED. Every poll worker there, at all the ED tables (there were 4) was shocked at the number of voters who were not on the rolls. Many have been working for years -- and had never seen anything remotely like this.
The whole purging and affidavit process needs to be investigated on an emergency basis BEFORE the election results are decided. Bernie's folks need to be on top of this. They need to fight for an honest election. They owe it to us who have worked so hard for them.

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