2016 Postmortem

grasswire

(50,130 posts) Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:10 PM Apr 2016

Bottom Line: It would be very bad for us all if Bernie...

...dropped out before America knows the determination of the FBI.

Hillary is running for the border, trying to make it across (or appear that she has made it) before the coppers catch up with her.

Paste a smile on, and run like hell, Hillary!

Shame on the Democratic Party leadership for allowing this to happen. What does it say about us if we the best we can produce is a highly corrupted and tainted candidate?

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Bottom Line: It would be very bad for us all if Bernie... (Original Post) grasswire Apr 2016 OP

How is this post different from one I might see on Free Republic??? Gomez163 Apr 2016 #1

I'd think you'd be a fan of Free Republic considering that you're backing Broward Apr 2016 #4

No. A republican believes in tax cuts for the rich. Hillary does not. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #5

Total bullshit. Hillary was one of the most liberal Senators in Congress redstateblues Apr 2016 #13

If she is so liberal, why is she against marijuana legalization? B Calm Apr 2016 #16

I lump her in with Nixon even though she's a little to his right. Broward Apr 2016 #23

It is a sad day in America when... grasswire Apr 2016 #9

The ignorance, willful or not, of Hillary supporters is astounding. Broward Apr 2016 #11

It's no different... SidDithers Apr 2016 #18

Free Republic is voting for Sanders? Doctor_J Apr 2016 #19

No, but the anti-Hillary rant might as well have been lifted from there. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #20

by next week he will be dismissed as totally unviable. #feelthemath bettyellen Apr 2016 #2

how does one feel math? Hiraeth Apr 2016 #3

I want Bernie to stay in for the comedy. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #6

2 Words knixphan Apr 2016 #7

True - though I wouldn't be surprised if they're saving the indictment... polichick Apr 2016 #8

corrupted and tainted . . ? did you forget something . . historically unlikeable and untrustworthy pdsimdars Apr 2016 #10

yes, it does grasswire Apr 2016 #14

Corrupted? Bernie couldn't name one example of corruption redstateblues Apr 2016 #17

Wait, there are still people who believe the right wing indictment nonsense? Lordy! nt BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #12

I think your head fell into your bowl of oatmeal. grasswire Apr 2016 #15

I want it to go to the conclusion just to see NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #21

Waiting for a Clinton indictment? Don’t hold your breath Gothmog Apr 2016 #22

I don't think the PTB want any part of a Cruz or Trump presidency. They won't let the FBI Doctor_J Apr 2016 #24

Gomez163

(2,039 posts)

1. How is this post different from one I might see on Free Republic???

Reply to grasswire (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:12 PM

Apr 2016

Broward

(1,976 posts)

4. I'd think you'd be a fan of Free Republic considering that you're backing

Reply to Gomez163 (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:13 PM

Apr 2016

a de facto Republican.

Gomez163

(2,039 posts)

5. No. A republican believes in tax cuts for the rich. Hillary does not.

Reply to Broward (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:18 PM

Apr 2016

And it really is the only thing that every Republican must agree to.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)

13. Total bullshit. Hillary was one of the most liberal Senators in Congress

Reply to Broward (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:42 PM

Apr 2016

To lump Hillary in with Ted Cruz et al makes you look foolish and uninformed

B Calm

(28,762 posts)

16. If she is so liberal, why is she against marijuana legalization?

Reply to redstateblues (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:44 PM

Apr 2016

Broward

(1,976 posts)

23. I lump her in with Nixon even though she's a little to his right.

Reply to redstateblues (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:56 PM

Apr 2016

grasswire

(50,130 posts)

9. It is a sad day in America when...

Reply to Gomez163 (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:32 PM

Apr 2016

...a portion of the Democratic electorate (largely the much older portion) refuses to acknowledge what the whole world has come to understand. The evidence is there. It's astounding that those on the right saw the pattern of corruption before the rest of us. I, for one, spent a lot of time defending the Clintons and bought their sad tale of victimization. We were bamboozled.

The shame is ours if we allow the Clintons' graft to continue unabated.

Well, no. The shame is yours.

Broward

(1,976 posts)

11. The ignorance, willful or not, of Hillary supporters is astounding.

Reply to grasswire (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:38 PM

Apr 2016

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)

18. It's no different...

Reply to Gomez163 (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:46 PM

Apr 2016

C'mon, Skinner. Make the call.

Sid

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)

19. Free Republic is voting for Sanders?

Reply to Gomez163 (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:48 PM

Apr 2016

Gomez163

(2,039 posts)

20. No, but the anti-Hillary rant might as well have been lifted from there.

Reply to Doctor_J (Reply #19)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:50 PM

Apr 2016

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)

2. by next week he will be dismissed as totally unviable. #feelthemath

Reply to grasswire (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:12 PM

Apr 2016

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)

3. how does one feel math?

Reply to bettyellen (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:13 PM

Apr 2016

#feelthebern

Gomez163

(2,039 posts)

6. I want Bernie to stay in for the comedy.

Reply to grasswire (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:18 PM

Apr 2016

knixphan

(4,442 posts)

7. 2 Words

Reply to grasswire (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:22 PM

Apr 2016

Phonebank.
PENNSYLVANIA.

polichick

(37,152 posts)

8. True - though I wouldn't be surprised if they're saving the indictment...

Reply to grasswire (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:22 PM

Apr 2016

to take her out in the general - which might not work out as planned if Trump is the R candidate.

Either way, staying in til the end is probably Bernie's best move.

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)

10. corrupted and tainted . . ? did you forget something . . historically unlikeable and untrustworthy

Reply to grasswire (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:35 PM

Apr 2016

in national polls. That matters too.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)

14. yes, it does

Reply to pdsimdars (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:43 PM

Apr 2016

On another thread, a Hillary fan told me that it was okay to recognize/discuss the "truthful indiscretions" of the Clintons but not the "untruthful ones."

SMH, SMH

The candidate of the righteous old Democratic Party gets a pass on "truthful indiscretions."

SMH.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)

17. Corrupted? Bernie couldn't name one example of corruption

Reply to pdsimdars (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:45 PM

Apr 2016

After making that a centerpiece of his campaign. All Bernie has is slogans. No solutions.

BreakfastClub

(765 posts)

12. Wait, there are still people who believe the right wing indictment nonsense? Lordy! nt

Reply to grasswire (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:41 PM

Apr 2016

grasswire

(50,130 posts)

15. I think your head fell into your bowl of oatmeal.

Reply to BreakfastClub (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:44 PM

Apr 2016

Wake up.

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)

21. I want it to go to the conclusion just to see

Reply to grasswire (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:54 PM

Apr 2016

how wide the divide is between progressives and corporatists in the Democratic party. Besides that, I really don't see anything wrong with letting the people in remaining primary states to have a vote and a voice.

Gothmog

(145,299 posts)

22. Waiting for a Clinton indictment? Don’t hold your breath

Reply to grasswire (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:54 PM

Apr 2016

I a m amused by the Sanders supporters and republicans praying for an indictment http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/waiting-clinton-indictment-dont-hold-your-breath

The fact remains, however, that such a scenario is pretty far-fetched. Politico’s Josh Gerstein took a closer look today at the legal circumstances, and the reasons Clinton’s foes shouldn’t hold their breaths.

The examination, which included cases spanning the past two decades, found some with parallels to Clinton’s use of a private server for her emails, but – in nearly all instances that were prosecuted – aggravating circumstances that don’t appear to be present in Clinton’s case.

The relatively few cases that drew prosecution almost always involved a deliberate intent to violate classification rules as well as some add-on element: An FBI agent who took home highly sensitive agency records while having an affair with a Chinese agent; a Boeing engineer who brought home 2000 classified documents and whose travel to Israel raised suspicions; a National Security Agency official who removed boxes of classified documents and also lied on a job application form.

Politico’s examination seems to have only been able to find one person who sincerely believes Clinton will face prosecution: former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R), who was a prosecutor and a Justice Department official before his partisan antics made him something of a clownish joke.

Among more objective observers, the idea of Clinton facing an indictment seems, at best, implausible. This is very much in line with a recent American Prospect examination, which reached the same conclusion.

TPM’s Josh Marshall published a related piece in February, after speaking to a variety of law professors and former federal prosecutors about the Clinton story. “To a person,” Josh wrote, they agreed the idea of a Clinton indictment is “very far-fetched.”

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)

24. I don't think the PTB want any part of a Cruz or Trump presidency. They won't let the FBI

Reply to grasswire (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:18 PM

Apr 2016

sink Hil and put the nation in the hands of either of those two crackpots. they can abide corruption in their president, but not insanity and unpredictability.

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