2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThis Delegate system needs alot of work
I dont care who you're for, voting for a person only to be told that you're vote doesnt matter it's a delegate that decides and they can pick whomever they want in alot of states is just icky.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)MattP
(3,304 posts)The delegates do
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)The revolution will alter it if we can just get it together. Of course the PTB in the party like it just as it is with us squabbling about innuendo and not seeing the PTB on the thrones who obviously don't care about anyone who is not in their club.
What irks me is those not in the club going around waxing the bullcrap of the elites.
MattP
(3,304 posts)Needs work voters should pick the candidate no matter what
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Adam Ruins Everything - Why the Electoral College Ruins Democracy
jonno99
(2,620 posts)elections are manged by the individual parties and their individual states.
It's interesting that 'primary' elections were not open to the general population until early in the 1900's.
More info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_primary
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)For Democrats, Superdelegates are allowed to vote for whoever they want.
Republicans do not have Superdelegates, but do have a bunch of unpledged delegates, which works similar to superdelegates. Their rules for determining who unpledged delegates vote for varies from state to state.
I do agree that the delegate system needs work, but that will be a tall order. The individual states decide how to run elections. It can not be decided by the US Congress, and I don't think the Supreme Court will muck around with the Constitution in that way.
tritsofme
(17,379 posts)These undemocratic and unrepresentative contests are nothing but an exercise in voter suppression.
All races should be primary elections that protect the secret ballot.
Gothmog
(145,303 posts)Texas had a process where two-thirds of the delegates were allocated based on the primary and one third based on a caucus. The DNC required Texas to use either a caucus or primary but not both. I like the new Texas system
Gothmog
(145,303 posts)The two parties have very different selection process. For the GOP, some delegates are pledged and have to vote for their candidate. The candidate has no approval rights over these delegates and so you can have the situation where the pledged delegate only has to vote on the first ballot for their candidate and can thereafter vote for another candidate. That is why Carnival Cruz is trying to prevent a first ballot victory for Trump. In addition many delegates are selected at conventions and there is no requirement that the convention necessarily respect the results of the primary.
Under the Democratic rules, pledged delegates can vote for anyone but the candidate has approval rights over their delegates. In Texas, you file a notarized form and the staff for each candidate get vet their delegates. I have been asked to vet the delegates in my senate district for the Clinton campaign (which includes myself). The Clinton people are taking the vetting responsibility seriously. Delegates have to be apportion in primary states based on the vote in the primary. For example, at the state convention, the Clinton supporters and the Sanders supporters will break into separate caucuses and vote on their delegate to the national convention. It does not matter how many supporters are there, they only get to vote on the number of delegates allocated to their senate district.
I like the Democratic process because it is far more straight forward than the GOP process