2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI'm voting for Hillary because I support a woman's right to choose!
My husband vetoed a very restrictive legislation on late-term abortions and he vetoed it at an event in the White House where we invited a lot of women who had faced this very difficult decision, that ought to be made based on their own conscience, their family, their faith, in consultation with doctors. Those stories left a searing impression on me. Women who think their pregnancy is going well and then wake up and find some really terrible problem. Women whose life is threatened if they carry their child to term, and women who are told by doctors that the child they're carrying will not survive.
Again, I am where I have been, which is that if there's a way to structure some kind of constitutional restriction that take into account the life of the mother and her health, then I'm open to that. But I have yet to see the Republicans willing to actually do that, and that would be an area, where if they included health, you could see constitutional action.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/09/29/hillary_clinton_i_could_compromise_on_abortion_if_it_included_exceptions_for_mothers_health.html
OwlinAZ
(410 posts)are strong advocates for a woman's right to choose. One, no more than the other.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Are they protected? What about late term abortion? Will women's right to choose be supported with available, easy access clinics, financial help for the poor...free birth control?
Hillary thinks abortion should be rare and is open to state restrictions.
Bernie is a better feminist who will protect women's rights.
k8conant
(3,030 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)Hillary gets an amazing amount of "principled" support from those innocently or intentionally unaware that Hillary doesn't have any principles to be happy about.
It's stunning.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)and it dates back to about 30 seconds before I posted the OP!
DookDook
(166 posts)Are we not supposed to talk about it because we know the Republicans aren't going to go after her on her stance on abortion? So as Democrats are all supposed to be good little soldiers and not bring it up? I sure do hope that this isn't what Secretary Clinton meant by, "I'll get things done with Republicans."
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)sometimes it gets confusing when headlines belie the content, but you take the titles you get.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Obviously, it's a free country, and you can DO whatever you want; what I mean is, Hillary stated just last week that she could support constitutional restrictions on a woman's right to choose if that woman hadn't thought about it "enough".
And clearly, what Hillary meant by the word "enough" was if the woman had UNDERthought the decision by an amount of effort/time which is deemed "sufficient" for male lawmakers.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)that's a fine reason to have an abortion.
There's a certain underlying assumption in Hillary's words that abortion is an inherently morally fraught decision.
It can be a moral decision if the mother and others involved make it one, but I don't think morality is inherent to the subject.
Assuming that it's inherently morally fraught means that it's possible to make an immoral decision.
Wanting children, not wanting children... I don't think that's a question of morality.
The only part I see as potentially immoral is forcing an unwanted or gravely disabled child to come into the world.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)Avalon Sparks
(2,566 posts)Yawn
Sad that Dems are now using wedge issues... Just like Repugs always have.
senz
(11,945 posts)They're supposed to turn off their minds.
What do you mean?