building. Trump would be called first and get the red beams right before his speech, and then Clinton would finally be called giving way to the change to blue right before her speech.

CNN = Insufferable corporate media hacks.

Ick. And for the most part, I usually like CNN. ICKY!

Nate Silver called out the CNN presentation of the exit poll data early,saying their analysis showed only a 10 point lead by Clinton in NYC, completely out of synch with Clinton's performance in other urban centers. CNN corrected their exit polling results soon thereafter. They just fucked it up. Other sites using the same data (NYT, ABC) did not screw it up and when they published the data, it was correct.

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Something happening there,
what is is pretty clear,
there is a machine over there,
counting votes and you un-aware.

I think they held out because, you know, ratings. Who the hell would keep watching if they called it the second after the polls closed, which they should have because the EP results made it damned obvious it was Hillary's.


Same data set
http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/ny/Dem

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/04/19/us/elections/new-york-primary-democratic-exit-polls.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=b-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

Anyone who's taken even one statistics course should be able to look at that data set and call bull on CNN's 52/48 number. Whoever pulled that out of their ass should be looking for a job today.

another "my candidate lost, it must be FRAUD!!!!!!" post.

Oh, boy!

items: Ohio 2004 (which after the fact counts show Kerry won) and AL Frankin 2008 and current senator that contested the election and low and behold, they found votes by hand counting.

The problem is, 16 points looks like sore losing. I would have contested MA and MO before even getting to AZ and NY. Those were much closer races and hand counts probably would have discrepancies.

BTW, in 2008, there were some similar numbers going on in primary with regards to Obama and Clinton with the exit polling and tabulation totals at the end. During the GE, it was pretty much insured that everyone had to come out and vote in such overwhelming majority, that the Republicans couldn't actually steal the election results... Then again, once everyone started seeing the cabinet, there was some buyers remorse. Rahm Emanuel, Geitner at treasury, Clinton at state... So, maybe the numbers weren't so massaged during the GE as they would normally be.

I'm furious this morning. Massive, widespread fraud and voter suppression, and nothing will be done about it. I can't respect the result of a primary when it looks rigged, plain and simple.

Very interesting, and infuriating, comment on a Guardian article last night. 20% of the Democratic voters in this precinct had to vote an affidavit ballot, which probably will not be counted.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/19/hillary-clinton-wins-new-york-primary-bernie-sanders#comment-72701065

Rheannon 14h ago

Hillary Clinton did not win this fairly. I just got off my 17 hour shift as an election official in East Hampton, NY. I am from this area and went canvassing for Bernie for 4 days here. While canvassing, I found overwhelming support for Bernie in my middle class area -- nearly every house where I actually talked to voters (about 40% of the houses), almost all were for Bernie.
But today at the polls, many of those had disappeared from the voter roll book. In my own ED district, which is the district I was working in, out of 166 Democratic voters, 39 were forced to file affidavit ballots. (ONLY 2 Republican voters had to file affidavits.) That's close to 20%. Let that sink in for a moment.
Many of these voters were long term registered Democrats -- some were in couples where one person was on the rolls and the other was not. Most had not moved since the last election and had voted in the most recent elections.
Hillary won by 11 votes in my ED -- not counting affidavits. THE AFFIDAVITS MUST NOT ONLY BE COUNTED, THEY MUST BE ALLOWED.
It was impossible for me, an election official, to get a straight story on whether the affidavits would be counted. The "coordinator" -- the top person at the site -- let slip that they count the affidavits "proportionately". If she is correct, that means, I assume, they take a sample of the ballots to count. Not all. If that sample is based on the proportion of official ballots cast, then I imagine it would just reproduce the first results WITHOUT the affidavits.
But it's worse than that. If the voter has been purged from the Board of Elections rolls -- like 125,000 Brooklyn voters were -- then it seems the affidavits (because no one could tell me for certain WHAT would happen to the affidavits -- are not counted. If you can't prove you are a registered Democrat, then you won't be counted, it seems. (If you received a voter card, you have some proof. But not everyone did or they may not be able to retrieve it.)
The ruling that came down from the emergency voter protection suit was no remedy. It allowed for getting a court order to vote. The nearest judge is more than an hour from here. And I was strongly discouraged from even informing voters that a court order was an option (I had to fight to be able to tell people of their right to a court order.)
Finally -- this was NOT business as usual. This was my second election. The last one I worked at, exactly ONE voter needed an affidavit ballot in my ED. Every poll worker there, at all the ED tables (there were 4) was shocked at the number of voters who were not on the rolls. Many have been working for years -- and had never seen anything remotely like this.
The whole purging and affidavit process needs to be investigated on an emergency basis BEFORE the election results are decided. Bernie's folks need to be on top of this. They need to fight for an honest election. They owe it to us who have worked so hard for them.

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Did anyone pay attention to the CNN Republican exit polls last night? Did they get it right? Were the initial exit polls reported equal to the final results?

Please, no more, I can't take it any more!

that I saw this day coming in 2000. I did. When nobody, not one single Dem made
a noise about the obviously stolen election and republican-owned and operated
voting machines that enabled it, that someday they'd reap some sort of reward for
their silence.

And here we are, 16 yrs later and those pesky machines are still in use and the exit
poll anomalies are blatantly pointing of election fraud, nobody says a word because
an Establishment owned and operated candidate is being helped by the owned and
operated machines. Jesus wept. I wish they would cover this on Nat'l TV. I know, I know,
not in this lifetime.