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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:58 PM Apr 2016

I'll tell you what's happening right now in Vermont.

The Sanders campaign and the DNC are agreeing on a plan for Bernie to wind down his campaign and endorse Hillary.

One that gives him a good position to speak at the DNC and some upgraded political status with the party.

He won't drop out tomorrow, likely not even this month, but it will be well before the convention.

Bet on it.

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I'll tell you what's happening right now in Vermont. (Original Post) onehandle Apr 2016 OP
What makes you say that? democrattotheend Apr 2016 #1
He read it on DINO Underground panader0 Apr 2016 #6
There are these new fangled devices... onehandle Apr 2016 #7
We can not say for sure drray23 Apr 2016 #30
And you know this how apcalc Apr 2016 #2
I think they're planning how to campaign in Pennsylvania. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #3
That's part of the discussion, I'm sure. nt onehandle Apr 2016 #4
I would concur that next week's Primaries will be in play. brooklynite Apr 2016 #33
Could be. grntuscarora Apr 2016 #5
Or making plans to run independently casperthegm Apr 2016 #8
I think so too. They'll be some horse trading. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #9
Tad Devine was on TV saying they were going to ratchet redstateblues Apr 2016 #10
I disagree that it had an opposite affect. That's just what they are using to try to continue the Skwmom Apr 2016 #16
He needs some time... Mike Nelson Apr 2016 #11
Thank you for secret agent/psychic news. I will go to the opening of Bernie's headquarters in L.A. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #12
If they were REALLY so confident, they wouldn't be trying to get us to give up! lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #13
Ha! NurseJackie Apr 2016 #46
Wow, thanks for the deep and insightful analysis lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #49
Upgraded political status - you mean so that he can provide cover for the Corporate Democrats who Skwmom Apr 2016 #14
...every candidate... Mike Nelson Apr 2016 #15
Incorrect:HRC stayed in it until the bitter end in 08. sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #18
She dropped out almost three months before the convention. onehandle Apr 2016 #21
She conceded on June 7, 2008 hedda_foil Apr 2016 #25
Not sure how I was incorrect... Mike Nelson Apr 2016 #40
After he loses PA and Maryland Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #17
Maryland will be a landslide workinclasszero Apr 2016 #22
I tossed a tiny pebble on that landslide today. forjusticethunders Apr 2016 #44
Hope you are right workinclasszero Apr 2016 #19
I doubt it. HRC can offer Bernie nothing. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #20
Pure fantasy whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #23
....Like he needs/wants status in the party.... TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #24
Sounds like wishful thinking on the part of Camp Weathervane to me! peacebird Apr 2016 #27
If an endorsement is being pondered, it isn't one for Clinton KingFlorez Apr 2016 #26
Sorry. if HRC died they would dig her up. morningglory Apr 2016 #29
He's staying in due to Hillary's extremely weak... dchill Apr 2016 #28
Lololololololol lololololololol lololololololol. Zynx Apr 2016 #34
Compared to 86 points, yeah. dchill Apr 2016 #35
Her vote margin over Bernie was greater than the vote total in Vermont. Zynx Apr 2016 #36
And the second highest disapproval rate in politics... dchill Apr 2016 #47
Hillary won more delegates in one county than Bernie won in the entire state Renew Deal Apr 2016 #37
I'll tell you right now what's happening in HillaryLand Depaysement Apr 2016 #31
+1 Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #32
What kind of gazing ball do you use? When can I buy one that looks further in the future? Vincardog Apr 2016 #38
A claim made by a supporter of another candidate is hardly reliable. bjo59 Apr 2016 #39
If he loses all five states next Tuesday - entirely likely - he will be out within the week alcibiades_mystery Apr 2016 #41
Better, or I expect... no, demand the Democratic Party come down hard and fast on the man. NT seabeyond Apr 2016 #42
There really is something in the air on Planet Hillary that gives you hallucinations. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #43
Yep. Contrary1 Apr 2016 #45
I didn't know you were there. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #48

drray23

(7,633 posts)
30. We can not say for sure
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:33 PM
Apr 2016

But it is the typical pattern for a candidate when they are reassessing. They get off the campaign trail, regroup and think about it.
More often than not, they then announce the next day they are suspending the campaign. I am not saying that is what Bernie will do but it is not out of the realm of possibilities.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
3. I think they're planning how to campaign in Pennsylvania.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:59 PM
Apr 2016

One last hurrah, then the surrender talks can commence.

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
5. Could be.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:00 PM
Apr 2016

And the repukes are waiting to call in every chit, IOU and favor they've got to ensure HRC gets indicted as soon as she's the nominee.

Bet on it.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
8. Or making plans to run independently
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:01 PM
Apr 2016

Who really knows at this point? I expect that he will continue to fight right up until the convention.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
10. Tad Devine was on TV saying they were going to ratchet
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:03 PM
Apr 2016

the attacks down- For one thing-It didn't work-it had the opposite effect. Bernie went from being a good guy to a bitter grumpy guy. Another point is that Tad Devine wants to get future gigs from Democrats-He is still relatively young-If he allows bernie to destroy the party he can forget about future campaigns.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
16. I disagree that it had an opposite affect. That's just what they are using to try to continue the
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:07 PM
Apr 2016

veil of secrecy surrounding Clinton.

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
11. He needs some time...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:04 PM
Apr 2016

...what you've suggested is certainly being discussed as an option. Let's hope he takes the high road.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
12. Thank you for secret agent/psychic news. I will go to the opening of Bernie's headquarters in L.A.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:04 PM
Apr 2016

tonight!

CA with twice as many delegates available as New York.

Carry on!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
13. If they were REALLY so confident, they wouldn't be trying to get us to give up!
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:05 PM
Apr 2016

The Hillarians are clearly terrified of Bernie. If they were really so sure of victory, they'd welcome the chance to vanquish the little people once and for all.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
49. Wow, thanks for the deep and insightful analysis
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:46 PM
Apr 2016

The nervous laugh without any argument whatsoever simply supports my case.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
14. Upgraded political status - you mean so that he can provide cover for the Corporate Democrats who
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:05 PM
Apr 2016

have done nothing but trash him and say he is not a Democrat. Boy is that rich...

I think anyone would be crazy to closely align with the Clintons during the general election. Let those that have already embraced her carry the water (though good luck with that).

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
15. ...every candidate...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:06 PM
Apr 2016

...says they are in until the end - until they drop out early. That's my memory, anyway.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
25. She conceded on June 7, 2008
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:25 PM
Apr 2016
June 7, 2008.
56 Shares.
56 Shares.
Sen. Hillary Clinton conceded the Democratic nomination to Sen. Barack Obama Saturday in Washington.Jun 7, 2008
Clinton Concedes Democratic Nomination; Obama Leads ...
abcnews.go.com › Vote2008 › story

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
40. Not sure how I was incorrect...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:53 PM
Apr 2016

...all candidates say they are not dropping out, when asked - usually after a poor showing... They say they are in it until the end. But, often, they will change their mind and "suspend" their campaign. I'm not sure how Hillary in 2008 disproves this... she did not have a convention fight and she was doing better than Bernie. He could change his mind, after looking at the situation and conferring with Jane, friends and supporters. I don't think it would be a betrayal of trust if he conceded before the convention.

 

forjusticethunders

(1,151 posts)
44. I tossed a tiny pebble on that landslide today.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:01 PM
Apr 2016

Still feels weird, supported Bernie for months and all my friends like him. Maybe the next progressive insurgency won't tell people of color to drop dead though.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
19. Hope you are right
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:12 PM
Apr 2016

Except I hope he drops out by the end of this month at least.

He's lookin to get beat in all the next primaries anyway. Why take the humiliation?

Just to please some die hard fanatics? Makes no sense to me.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
26. If an endorsement is being pondered, it isn't one for Clinton
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:26 PM
Apr 2016

What is happening in Vermont now is probably a scheming session for how to get revenge on Clinton.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
34. Lololololololol lololololololol lololololololol.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:18 PM
Apr 2016

A 16+ point win is weak? Yeah, sure. Whateevr.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
36. Her vote margin over Bernie was greater than the vote total in Vermont.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:21 PM
Apr 2016

I'm sorry, the second smallest state in the country doesn't tell me very much.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
41. If he loses all five states next Tuesday - entirely likely - he will be out within the week
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:57 PM
Apr 2016

I do believe Bernie Sanders is ethical, even if he's been far too flattered by the cheers and far to gullible to the Weaver-Devine grift.

When he gets wiped out again across the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic, he'll wind down in a big way.

Can he even win Rhode Island?

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
45. Yep.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:27 PM
Apr 2016

"Sanders, speaking to reporters late Tuesday night after arriving home in Vermont, said he plans to return to Pennsylvania on Thursday after taking a day off "to get recharged."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/20/politics/bernie-sanders-jeff-weaver-superdelegates/index.html

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