No super delegate has cast their vote. Not one.

oh yes it will.

the people will force some of the superdelegates to switch. if some of these superdelegates do not switch, they will lose their jobs.

citizens are mobilizing against them.

Hillary STILL comes out on top. If you do a winner-take-all scenario (e.g. Sanders wins Michigan, he gets all of Michigan's superdelegates), she is even further ahead, do to haivng won more of the large states.

she won't be able to win enough at the state level.

Bernie just needs to pick off a few supers in order to change the entire ballgame.

Thanks

He is down by over FIVE HUNDRED delegates right now.

That margin will only get worse for him.

If "a few" means a few hundred, then yes... he only needs 'a few' to switch to win. And how exactly is he going to convince hundreds of delegates to go against the will of their voters and choose him, when he has less of the popular vote, less states, less pledged delegates and a narrower voting base than Hillary?

It's ironic that the Sanders supporters were so against the superdelegate system due to it being 'unfair' in their eyes. And now their only hope is that the super delegates will betray the voters, the party, the process and the country and just vote for Sanders because that's what he (and a minority of his voters) want.

Priceless!

i have never seen anything like this before. people aren't going to just acquiesce.

What about all the ones he has lost?

Bernie just needs to pick off a few here and there to deny her the nomination.

Why should he get any of those? His own argument is that supers should vote with their states. Welp, her States represent a majority of the US population already.

Allocating all to the state's winner. Ended up something like 275 Hillary, 115 Bernie so far.
The only states with large amounts of supers that Bernie won were Washington, Wisconsin and Michigan. By contrast Hillary won like 45 from New York alone. Texas, Florida and Illinois were similarly large amounts.
If you use this method then assume he wins California, maybe he catches her? But then this method isn't used so it doesn't really matter...

Clinton is WAY ahead in pledged delegates.

Will you ever be right about anything?

if they do not change their vote, they will lose their jobs.

its as simple as that. the movement to force supers to change is growing very quickly.

it has utterly failed to achieve anything.

The idea that the electorate is going to remember that some supers didn't vote proportionally to the vote outcome in their state is laughable. Supers are, by design, free to vote how they want. They are virtually ALL going to vote for the candidate with the most pledged delegates.

That is not going to change. Bernie is done. He's lost. Time to accept that reality.

Florida supers:
21 to 2

Hillary got 64 so by that rule Bernie needs 6 more from the current allocation. It is math.

not just a proportional amount. Or at least the ones that are demanding a Superdelegate switch.

Really? No they do not, they want it to represent the people. We want 72% of the supers to represent us. Come on, this is beneath you.

What I have heard is that the BS Cheerleaders have said that Superdelegates in a state should vote for the candidate the state voted for.

Do not respond to me with terms like cheerleaders, it is groundless and insulting to our party. We have always said proportional. SHould I add that the fact that the superdelegates have been on her side from the start is close to electioneering by inflating the lead. I am no fan of the supers, but now that or states have voted they need to switch.

I have never heard anyone say proportional ... but even if they had, it's still changing the rules in the middle ... which is a load of crap. Sorry you don't like playing by the rules as they were laid out long before BS became a candidate.

And it makes you look like a hate filled and bitter person. But if that is how you want to look go ahead. Anyways link or did not happen.

When it comes to hate filled and bitter, you're confusing my posts with the BS cheerleaders around here. The only place I see posts as hate filled is when I look over the conversation at Free Republic or in the Yahoo Politics area, the conservatives there are simply embarrassing.

dragging around the victims like posters for your platform, so I can only say I am happy you are voting for HRC, makes me feel like I choose the right candidate twice in a row now.

I love your supporters though...

it's clear you're not a Democrat and simply an interloper, which means I really don't care what you think.

Your party is The Third Way. Please leave ours in tact, if you want to join you are free to, just stop being such a hate filled person.

I am a Democrat, I am liberal, I am progressive.

And I'm not hate filled, I'm just tired of watching the BS cheerleaders lie, smear and sling crap. And then have the gall to say that the Clinton supporters need them and need to treat them better ... and if they don't, they're not going to vote for "Senator Weathervane" and that they're going to take their purity ball, go home and have a sad.

I will not define you is rich from a person saying BS cheerleader. So deep.

Have fun on your trip in Dig Nation!

Your plane is boarding!

He wants all of the superdelegates in states he has won to go along with him.

He has said many times he wants them to represent the people. No discussion here, I have been reading HRC conspiracy theories for weeks now about him plotting to steal the votes. For one you can't steal them, they are people...unless you wait until the caucus, dress up a clone to replace them and then have them vote in place. Secondly they have already voted for Hillary in voice against the rules since they are not supposed to vote until the convention.

end up with the pledged delegate lead and they themselves were crying about how if Secretary Clinton stole the nomination with Superdelegates, against the will of the people, that it would "tear the Democratic Party apart". And the BS cheerleaders did use the term "steal".

Now the shoe is on the other foot, BS won't win the majority of pledged delegates and now the BS cheerleaders are talking about stealing the nomination via Superdelegates, saying that BS is the "more electable" candidate. All I see it as is hypocrisy.

Nothing has changed, she has been cheating using superdelegates she bribed off since the start, that has not changed. We still hope to get the majority of the pledged, and we will win with that. The supers are still our issues, get rid of them or break them up proportionally. But hey you guys seem cool with winning by default. So have at it.

If you don't like the rules, you should have gotten them changed before the primaries started.

And when you start smearing Secretary Clinton with unsubstantiated claims of "bribery", that's when I realize you're not worth my time ... buh bye.

Demanding that an elected official follow the will of the people.

Imagine that...

By a wide margin, too.

in the south does or did?

We are talking about superdelegates in places where Bernie won.

The superdelegates in the south can follow what their voters voted for.

doesn't help him. You would actually easily guarantee she gets to where she needs to be, which she will get anyway.

BTW, the violent rhetoric of your posts is a bit alarming. Not that we're afraid of you, mind, but it does speak to something fundamentally disturbing about your "movement".

"Revolution."

since just today a Bernie super delegate, Gaye Symington from Vermont, announced that she was switching from Bernie to Hillary.

voters will not be able to sway her vote.

Well, good.

If a majority of voters in a district or state demand that an elected official follow the will of the people, you call that blackmail?

her entire adult life. Bernie has been a "dem" for a year or two and he'll probably go right back to socialist once he loses the race. The super-delegates are party loyalists.

I have not seen a single Sanders supporter ask that Arizona super delegate Raúl Grijalva go with the will of his state's popular vote. In fact, I've seen Bernie supporters deluge his Facebook page with thanks while Bernie supporters swamp the pages of Hillary super delegates with abuse, vitriol, and outright threats for not going with their state's popular vote. Super delegates aren't meant to go with the will of anything other than what they seem to be the good of the party. That said, most of them traditionally tend to go with the person who has the most led pledged delegates. Since Bernie supporters have thanked Grijalva for not going with the popular choice in Arizona, it is clear that they don't really believe that super delegates should go according to who won the popular vote of the state. They only believe this for Bernie. Now, it may be fair that supers should go with the percentage of the state vote that their candidate won, but then wouldn't they just be pledged delegates? I don't agree with the use of super delegates, but if they're going to be there, I'd rather they go with percentages rather than the Republican style winner takes all, or perhaps go with the popular national vote. There are times that delegates don't match that number but it would be more fair.

Either way, as long as Sanders supporters are arguing that supers should go with state popular vote and not national or state Delgate count and the my don't ask the same of Grijalva, they are not being honest, either with us or with themselves.

The party is behind Hillary.

And that's being kind.

and not explaining it?