2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe upcoming states are NOT going to be like NY, berners take heart
there is not going to be the level of disenfranchisement of indys like in ny with a draconian october deadline to change party
here is the info on the tuesday states
ct: date for party affiliation change was jan. ...not great but not as bad as oct in ny
pa: deadline was in MARCH and a local paper reported record numbers of people changing party! this bodes well for bernie
de: feb 26....not great, but much better than ny.,,this could work out well for bernie
ri: unaffiliated can vote IN EITHER PRIMARY ....good news for bernie
md: deadline APRIL 5 to change party..this bodes very well for bernie
i am particularly optimistic about pa, ri, and maybe md because of the late deadline
do not despair!
speaktruthtopower
(800 posts)metroins
(2,550 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Stallion
(6,474 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)k8conant
(3,030 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)People just don't care enough to vote.
Why? Heck, look at all the calls on DU wanting to ban people that are active, and do vote but don't vote for H. Not like a party at all, more like a plantation with the H people as lords.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Turnout is always low in primaries, always lower for Dems, and is low when people are basically satisfied with either choice.
Our contentious little bubble isn't really reflective of the world.
mythology
(9,527 posts)That's how Clinton has built her lead. It's why she won New York by better than 200,000 voters and better than 10% of the available pledged delegates. Because more voters are voting for her than for Sanders.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)The voters didn't vote and anyone proud of that I don't even need to be around. You are now on ignore.
LuvLoogie
(7,011 posts)Stallion
(6,474 posts)you seem so concerned about the Party then I'm sure you are on-board to vote for party nominee
Zynx
(21,328 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Zynx
(21,328 posts)Same goes for Delaware. It's about 22% African American. It looks like he won't do well in PA.
Also, he trails in CT, though that's fairly close.
I think he wins RI, but that's a pitifully small delegate prize.
Zira
(1,054 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Also, have you seen the polls?
He's not close in PA, and he's going to get crushed in MD.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)I heard on Monday that New York was a dead heat.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Just so you know
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)the nxt powerball numbers if you are so inclined....
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)WhiteTara
(29,718 posts)be the usual she cheated comments.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)and coin tosses seem to benefit only one candidate, something smells.
hopefully these states will handle things a bit better, although it looks like iowa did straighten it out in the end.
livetohike
(22,145 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)please no polls. but if you have any thoughts about demographics, etc i would be curious.
livetohike
(22,145 posts)will be strong in Philly and Pgh. Allegheny County (where Pgh is) has the second highest senior citizen population in the U.S. The minority population in Pgh. is about 29 %. Not sure about Philly demographics.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)as well as the older folks. but pa also hit hard and her tpp and free trade position could hurt her with working class and those who lost their jobs
guess we will find out soon enough..
oh and thanks for responding!
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Response to restorefreedom (Reply #29)
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seabeyond
(110,159 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)male and pale.... a nd then all these months.
Fuckin' ...... Triumph.
And you know. That really says a hell of a lot. we can be proud.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)unsure about the number in DE and RI.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)my predictions
pa toss up
ct lean clinton will be close
ri bernie
md lean clinton
de lean bernie
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)Even the most optimistic delegates targets for Bernie to come back have him losing MD by ten.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Godhumor
(6,437 posts)Even ignoring the closed primary thing to start. MD has the 4th largest black population in the country. DE is 8th. Those are very confident early calls for Hillary.
You can check out my super accurate state predictor below. It has a 100% accuracy rate through 6 contests so far.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511576498
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)esp as it relates to md. i suspected that anyway because of the demos. i suppose ri and de may cancel each other out in terms of delegates. so if md goes clinton, bernie will need pa. gonna go look at your link now.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)and ri is a very liberal state with no primary deadline to switch parties. i think 7.5% bernie is low. UNLESS a lot of ri indys grab a gop ballot to vote trump. then that screws it.
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)for some reason i spaced that out. i do think ri has the best shot of being a big win for bernie unless trump scoops up a lot of indy vote.
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)Bernie will have some favorable territory again in May, but he is going to have to suck it up next Tuesday. I will be shocked, as an analyst and not a Clinton supporter mind you, if the spread doesn't get close to 300 delegates after all is said and done on the 26th.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)i am sure he has people doing lots of calculating right now. they have a target for tuesday i am sure. if he doesn't meet it, then he has to consider whether to focus exclusively on polls of him vs gop candidates and the supers. but if he doesn't grab some big wins it will be hard to tilt the supers. i do think he wants to see what happens in the dakotas, oregon, ca and nm. those could all be very good states for him.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)Those states need to do more than lean. They need to fall all over him.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)but i don't pay close enough attention to the details to predict the spread. hence the lean part.
MadBadger
(24,089 posts)Bernie is going to have his clock cleaned in Maryland. He is likely to lose at least PA and CT as well.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)but in states where they are able to participate and there are not draconian deadlines like ny, he tends to do well.
but yes, the dem input will matter as well
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Good God!
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)They're gonna be worse! :-D
Recursion
(56,582 posts)For mostly the same reason.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)for pa and ri then.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)And remember he still has MT and OR coming up, which should be blowouts for him.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Not a good state for him to put it mildly
Recursion
(56,582 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)WV and KY are hard to predict based on 2008. We know they reky dislike Obama, so Bernie has a real chance there.