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Related: About this forum“It’s the corruption, stupid”: Hillary’s too compromised to see what Donald Trump understands
Its the corruption, stupid: Hillarys too compromised to see what Donald Trump understands
By Bill Curry - TUESDAY, FEB 23, 2016 05:00 AM CST
The key 2016 issue is outrage over a rigged system by special interests. There's a reason Hillary doesn't get it
In 1992, James Carville, Bill Clintons senior campaign strategist, scribbled a terse memo containing three instructions. Two are long forgotten. The third may live forever. Its the economy, stupid became a meme because it nailed the issue that drove that election. One overarching issue drives this election, but neither Hillary Clintons campaign nor the Democratic Party got the memo. Any swing voter could tell them what it says: Its the corruption, stupid.
~Snip~
Poorly written and atrociously reasoned, Citizens United rests on three simple, absurd precepts: Money is speech; corporations are people; and corruption is OK so long as it is sanctioned. OK, the third one isnt so simple, but it sure is absurd. It pertains to what Justice Kennedy, the opinions author, calls soft corruption, by which he means the entire system: big donors, lobbyists, lush retreats, revolving doors, exorbitant speaking fees. The whole shebang.
Kennedy says that unlike hard corruption (bribery, mainly), soft corruption harms and offends no one, so Congress cant regulate it. The issue hadnt come up at trial, so there was nothing about it in pleadings. Theres tons of data about how evil it is and how much we hate it, but Kennedy ignored it. He offered no proof to support his finding. He just said it was so and now its the law.
~Snip~
Clinton calls it an artful smear to suggest that she, Obama or any Democrat is influenced by the money they say corrupts every Republican. Her anger is partly a pose. But any card-carrying member of the establishment will take any suggestion that the system is compromised as a personal insult. This is true of elite reporters as well as politicians.
The Times David Brooks recently praised Obamas superior integrity, calling his years in office remarkably scandal free. Its all true, but recall Anthony Kennedys clueless distinction between hard and soft corruption. He said soft corruption was better but its worse really. Soft corruption is systemic corruption; a cancer on the body politic. We kill it or it kills us, and sooner than you may think.
Asked about her Goldman Sachs speaking fees, Hillary offered two rationales. One was the perennial favorite everyone does it. The other was equally flippant. (Thats what they offered.) Since leaving the White House she and Bill have hauled in $153 million in speaking fees. Her deepest flaw is she doesnt know its wrong. As Ive written twice here and said often elsewhere, Ive great respect for her. Her flaw is denial, not dishonesty but her denial runs deep....
Read more:
http://www.salon.com/2016/02/23/its_the_corruption_stupid_hillarys_too_compromised_to_see_what_donald_trump_understands/
By Bill Curry - TUESDAY, FEB 23, 2016 05:00 AM CST
The key 2016 issue is outrage over a rigged system by special interests. There's a reason Hillary doesn't get it
In 1992, James Carville, Bill Clintons senior campaign strategist, scribbled a terse memo containing three instructions. Two are long forgotten. The third may live forever. Its the economy, stupid became a meme because it nailed the issue that drove that election. One overarching issue drives this election, but neither Hillary Clintons campaign nor the Democratic Party got the memo. Any swing voter could tell them what it says: Its the corruption, stupid.
~Snip~
Poorly written and atrociously reasoned, Citizens United rests on three simple, absurd precepts: Money is speech; corporations are people; and corruption is OK so long as it is sanctioned. OK, the third one isnt so simple, but it sure is absurd. It pertains to what Justice Kennedy, the opinions author, calls soft corruption, by which he means the entire system: big donors, lobbyists, lush retreats, revolving doors, exorbitant speaking fees. The whole shebang.
Kennedy says that unlike hard corruption (bribery, mainly), soft corruption harms and offends no one, so Congress cant regulate it. The issue hadnt come up at trial, so there was nothing about it in pleadings. Theres tons of data about how evil it is and how much we hate it, but Kennedy ignored it. He offered no proof to support his finding. He just said it was so and now its the law.
~Snip~
Clinton calls it an artful smear to suggest that she, Obama or any Democrat is influenced by the money they say corrupts every Republican. Her anger is partly a pose. But any card-carrying member of the establishment will take any suggestion that the system is compromised as a personal insult. This is true of elite reporters as well as politicians.
The Times David Brooks recently praised Obamas superior integrity, calling his years in office remarkably scandal free. Its all true, but recall Anthony Kennedys clueless distinction between hard and soft corruption. He said soft corruption was better but its worse really. Soft corruption is systemic corruption; a cancer on the body politic. We kill it or it kills us, and sooner than you may think.
Asked about her Goldman Sachs speaking fees, Hillary offered two rationales. One was the perennial favorite everyone does it. The other was equally flippant. (Thats what they offered.) Since leaving the White House she and Bill have hauled in $153 million in speaking fees. Her deepest flaw is she doesnt know its wrong. As Ive written twice here and said often elsewhere, Ive great respect for her. Her flaw is denial, not dishonesty but her denial runs deep....
Read more:
http://www.salon.com/2016/02/23/its_the_corruption_stupid_hillarys_too_compromised_to_see_what_donald_trump_understands/
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“It’s the corruption, stupid”: Hillary’s too compromised to see what Donald Trump understands (Original Post)
think
Apr 2016
OP
General state of denial in Democratic Party is likely to screw its chances in 2016, if not corrected
highprincipleswork
Apr 2016
#1
Yep. There does seem to be a great deal of denial. And the corruption. It's way too obvious... /nt
think
Apr 2016
#2
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)1. General state of denial in Democratic Party is likely to screw its chances in 2016, if not corrected
think
(11,641 posts)2. Yep. There does seem to be a great deal of denial. And the corruption. It's way too obvious... /nt
peace13
(11,076 posts)3. The speaking fees bother me but...
The donations to the Clinton Foundation that coincided with her SOS negotiations, now that does me in! And money aside, her attitude about killing people that the administration needs removed is really unsettling. But then, I'm against our own death penalty so the thought of actually going into another country to remove err..kill their leaders is nothing I can understand. That being said people say she will be an awesome President.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)4. we're not even allowed to HEAR what she promises the people she's actually working for
think
(11,641 posts)5. That's a great way to put it. /nt
MisterP
(23,730 posts)6. not that we all don't know what she's promising--that's probably the worst of all
that everyone already knows and either ignores it or agrees with it