2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumExperts Agree HRC Indictment "Chatter Is Just Plain Ridiculous; BS fans & Repugnants can still dream
Like I said before, I can't tell many of the Sanders fans posts from those of rabid Right Wingers! (so, how many are Repugnants 'for' Bernie?)
Here are a couple of "Gems":[div class="excerpt" style="border:1px solid #000000;"]
Is Hillary staying in pending indictment: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1794977
If you Hillary people win, and then she is indicted by the Justice Department
Some relevant posts/articles:
Sanders Supporters Must Stop Repeating GOP Lies About Hillary Clinton - a Sanders supporter's appeal
As I have repeatedly stated before, I am a Bernie Sanders supporter, despite our minor differences on science and genetic technology. I switched from No Party Affiliation to Democrat for the first time in years, simply so that I could vote for Bernie.
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Experts Agree Clinton Indictment "Chatter Is Just Plain Ridiculous."
http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/02/01/experts-push-back-against-right-wing-media-clai/208297
TPM's Josh Marshall: Experts Agree Clinton Indictment "Chatter Is Just Plain Ridiculous." As reported by Talking Points Memo editor, Josh Marshall, law professors and former federal prosecutors have told him "to a person" that the chances of an indictment are a "far-fetched" idea and that "on the possibility of an indictment, most of this chatter is just plain ridiculous -- a mix of ignorance and tendentiousness":
[div style="border:1px solid #000000;" class="excerpt"] As a legal matter, the chances of Hillary Clinton facing any kind of indictment are very, very low.
Start with the fact that as far as we know, she is not actually even being investigated for anything, let alone facing a looming indictment. The simple facts, as we know them, just don't put her in line for an indictment. The first reason is the facts, which rest heavily on intent and reckless negligence. The second is tradition and DOJ regulations which make professional prosecutors very leery of issuing indictments that might be perceived or in fact influence an election. This was my thinking. But as the press coverage has become increasingly heated, I started trying to figure out if there was something I was missing - some fact I didn't know, some blindspot in my perception. So I've spoken to a number of law profs and former federal prosecutors - based on the facts we know now even from the most aggressive reporting. Not like, is this theoretically possible? Not, what the penalties would be if it happened. But is an indictment at all likely or is this whole idea very far-fetched. To a person, very far-fetched.
So why the press coverage? I think it's a combination of reasons. The most irreducible and perhaps most significant is simply prestige reporter derp and general ignorance of the legal system. Second is journalists' perennial inability to resist a process story. And third, let's be honest, wingnut page views. (TPM, 2/1/15)
ABC News: "There Doesn't Seem To Be A Legitimate Basis For Any Sort Of Criminal Charge Against Her." In a February 1 article, ABC News' legal analyst Dan Abrams debunked media outlets hyping the claim that Clinton will be indicted over her private server usage. Abrams added that "there is no evidence - not suppositions or partisan allegations but actual evidence - that Clinton knew that using a private email server was criminal or even improper at the time":
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Justice Department: No Criminal Referral Over Clinton Emails
Statement from the Inspectors General of the Intelligence Community and the Department of State Regarding the Review of Former Secretary Clinton's Emails
(NOTE: IC IG: INtelligence Community Inspector General Bill_USA}
IC IG made a referral detailing the potential compromise of classified information to security officials within the Executive Branch. The main purpose of the referral was to notify security officials that classified information may exist on at least one private server and thumb drive that are not in the government's possession. An important distinction is that the IC IG did not make a criminal referral - it was a security referral made for counterintelligence purposes.
[font size="4"] This Rabid Right indictment talk puts me in mind of another bit of Repugnant wishful thinking:[/font]
[center][font size="6"]Birther Bugs[/font][/center]
[font size="4"]Scritch, scritch, scritch, scritch[/font]
jfern
(5,204 posts)Maybe you should have the Hillary campaign take your own advice?
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Bill USA
(6,436 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)I never put much stock in the whole e-mail thing.
Except it was a stupid thing to do.
And Hillary gave the GOP the gift that will keep on giving regarding the things that were on the released e-mails.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)Commercial email providers have hundreds of security personnel employed to protect their system from malware and hackers
[font size=""3"] IN order to do their jobs these security personnel have to have the ability to examine any email on their servers (this doesn't mean that they DO read all the emails, but they have the ability to look at any email on their servers). Powell and Condi Rice had email accounts on Commercial email providers servers. Any classified info in any of their emails (and dept of state has said they had some) is necessarily compromised just by being on a commercial email service providers server. [/font]
State Dept Concludes Past Secretaries Of State "Definitively" Had Classified Info On Private emails
She wasn't the first, but by having, in effect, a Government personnell controlled satellite computer she had a set-up that was more secure than any commercial email account is... UNLESS YOU THINK ALL THOSE COMMERCIAL EMAIL SERVICE PROVIDER CYBER SECURITY EMPLOYEES HAD GOVERNMENT SECURITY CLEARANCES! LOL
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)I hope he lets the FBI know before they waste any more taxpayer money.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)otherizing people is a step towards that. For the record, let me know where the front lines are... flying lead is dangerous for my health and frankly I prefer to avoid live fire exercises.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Maybe if you write out an indictment and put it under your pillow the Indictment Fairy will arrest Secretary Clinton.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)to read outsiders' opinions, "experts" or not.
And, yes, that birther idea came from her
campaign, though not from her directly.
Her choice of Brock shows how well she
values "truth in advertising" though.
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)is pretty sickening. I don't care who wins the nomination, as long as it happens soon. Bernie is a good man and he champions important causes. Hillary is a good woman and I have no doubt she will have Democrats' best interests at heart if/when she becomes president. The candidates' supporters, however, leave a pretty bad taste in my mouth.
angrychair
(8,702 posts)Your article links are 3 months to almost a year old, mostly opinion, mostly opinion based on incomplete public domain information.
Why don't we all wait until actual investigation is completed by the actual FBI and they give their recommendations to the Justice Department.
Your self-righteous indignation and hyperbole aside, I'll wait and see.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts).. they keep hoping repeating it will make it true! LOL!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1810912