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2016 Postmortem

riversedge

(70,239 posts) Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:16 PM Apr 2016

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PolitiFact rates Bernie's voter turnout claims 'Mostly False'

PolitiFact rates Bernie's voter turnout claims 'Mostly False'

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/bernie-sanders-voter-turnout-politifact-222138

By Nick Gass

04/19/16 11:08 AM EDT

It is one of Bernie Sanders' most repeated lines on the trail: "We win when voter turnout is high, we lose when it is low," he often says, particularly in the run-up to caucuses and primaries, such as the one in delegate-rich New York on Tuesday.

But that claim is "Mostly False," according to a fact check and analysis by PolitiFact published Tuesday, finding that while the Vermont senator has won several states thanks to large turnout, his overall argument is "pretty thin."

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Sanders also won the contests with the 10 lowest turnouts, all caucuses: Alaska, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Kansas, Maine, Minnesota, Nebraska, Washington state and Wyoming.

"Ignoring the large number of low-turnout caucuses Sanders won would be cherry-picking," the article continues, noting that the average turnout rate for a state Clinton carried is 44 percent, while the average turnout for a Sanders victory is just 31 percent.

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"The statement contains some element of truth but ignores critical facts that would give a different impression, so we rate it Mostly False," the analysis concludes.
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PolitiFact rates Bernie's voter turnout claims 'Mostly False' (Original Post) riversedge Apr 2016 OP

kick and rec... for truth. nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #1

Oh, Another lie from the campaign of integrity? So many. seabeyond Apr 2016 #2

non-stop coast to coast NurseJackie Apr 2016 #5

Yup. This is what really reminds me of the Bushco years and their supporters. Nt. seabeyond Apr 2016 #8

Did you have to dig this one up? northernsouthern Apr 2016 #3

Hillary supporters are to GOTV AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #4

hillary is winning and bernie is losing. GOTV problems in the bernie camp? nt msongs Apr 2016 #10

The turnout at the Washington Caucus was essentially the same as 2008... a record turnout. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #6

uh-oh, UH-OH. You've done it now. Here they come with your stake and the torches. Would you prefer Bill USA Apr 2016 #7

Yup. We knew that...nice to see it getting coverage. He does well in small Lucinda Apr 2016 #9

I can't criticize him about this Dem2 Apr 2016 #11

K&R RandySF Apr 2016 #12

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)

1. kick and rec... for truth. nt

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:17 PM

Apr 2016

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)

2. Oh, Another lie from the campaign of integrity? So many.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:19 PM

Apr 2016

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)

5. non-stop coast to coast

Reply to seabeyond (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:23 PM

Apr 2016

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)

8. Yup. This is what really reminds me of the Bushco years and their supporters. Nt.

Reply to NurseJackie (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:28 PM

Apr 2016

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)

3. Did you have to dig this one up?

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:21 PM

Apr 2016

Already disproved the source yesterday. They even had our statess voter turn out wrong.

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)

4. Hillary supporters are to GOTV

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:23 PM

Apr 2016

What cancer is to longevity

msongs

(67,413 posts)

10. hillary is winning and bernie is losing. GOTV problems in the bernie camp? nt

Reply to AgingAmerican (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:36 PM

Apr 2016

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)

6. The turnout at the Washington Caucus was essentially the same as 2008... a record turnout.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:26 PM

Apr 2016

Caucuses don't experience the same turnout for a simple reason: caucuses take time.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)

7. uh-oh, UH-OH. You've done it now. Here they come with your stake and the torches. Would you prefer

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:27 PM

Apr 2016

an accellerant with your fire? You die quicker. Bernie fans have a special fury for heretics!

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)

9. Yup. We knew that...nice to see it getting coverage. He does well in small

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:31 PM

Apr 2016

caucus states when all Dems can't participate.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)

11. I can't criticize him about this

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:37 PM

Apr 2016

It's always good to promote as much voting as possible, even if it doesn't always indicate whether he'll win or not.

RandySF

(58,884 posts)

12. K&R

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:43 PM

Apr 2016

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