If Trump wins, there will be Cruz haters who won't vote for Trump. The fringes always nullify each other. Not a particular concern to me.

Further, that energy invested in them is almost always entirely wasted and could be so much better, and more pleasantly, invested elsewhere. Best to respect that they mean it when they say they will not be changing their minds.

What cancer is to longevity

The answer is: Hillary supporters are to GOTV what Kryptonite is to Superman.

Is that more clear?

Good job!

FIFY

Do you think it's OK to shut up Bernie supporters before he concedes?

What if it was Hillary supporters being asked to shut up...call it for Bernie?

but we will win with or without you.

And yes, I know you think you are legion, but you aren't.

So make up your mind, but spare us the threats and histrionics. No one of us, nor any few of us, decides this. It is the ones who are willing to stick together. Many Sanders supporters have already told us they will not do that. So they have made themselves irrelevant.

So whatever you decide, quit with the drama and get on with it.

You see, I have always said I'd hold my nose and vote for Clinton, but when you cast me out like garbage, mabye that will make me think twice.

Good job.

Aside from her being a corporate shill....of course.

Of what I'm talking about

So yes you are correct. Calling for purges does not GOTV.

Vote for her or don't.

There isn't one thing anyone can do to convince you otherwise. Just admit that. And we can move on.

Right wing does that to people... .

They must thing GOTV means purge voters OUT of the party...

It's all they know...

The post that implied we'd be going elsewhere to post if we are shut out here.

That's not a purge? Not forced purges but forced silence.

How about we wait till a winner is declared before we start kicking each other off the forum.

I know some of you guys would love to see Bernie supporters leave, I just don't know if you'd be happy with the results. A one-sided conversations, and a dead forum isn't much fun to participate in.

party member? Maybe Sanders will start a new party and you can join up. I hear a Unicorn for a mascot is available.

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Right wing and civility do not go hand in hand

Until that happens there will be a stead stream of disgruntled leftists exiting the Democratic party

There is no upside to appeasing them. They have already made it clear that they could never vote for her. So they are now irrelevant.

Deluded right wing Hill-think

We know you will think that is stupid. But the fact that you think that doesn't matter.

Hill-think

the OP is clearly stating that the Bernie or Bust crowd deserve to have their wishes acknowledged. They are a difficult crowd to convince to vote for Hillary, and are very unlikely to turn their vote. So leave them to their own devices. I agree. How is that purging?

considering he was known by 3% of Americans to losing many states? Think Hillary is electrifying the youth vote? Doesn't appear so. Sanders brought youth to the party and it's up to the democrats to keep them interested. With Hillary they won't. They aren't lining up behind sanders because they want more of the same.

a known entity for thirty years compared to a person known by 3% and she can't close this out. Kind of speaks volumes if you ask me.

After all in Hillary's words " Bobby Kennedy got shot in June" with this FBI thing he needs to stay in.

but you should've had a ton of free time ignoring the issues if you are voting for Hillary.

We understand that you hate Hillary. We know you are pledged to never vote for her. But it just doesn't matter.

Do what you have to do, give your last breath for Sanders. But - and this is not snark it's just reality - no one is going to care. The rest of the world has moved on to the General Election.

Your war is over. Your enemy has gone home.

He has already won many things, the message being one of them. we realize he won the message the moment Hillary had amazing evolutions she never held before. They somehow were almost identical to the Sanders campaign platform. You know this, but like research, avoided making the connection.

He also has started a new found activism that Hillary would've never inspired. She and her kind do not want activism, they want subjects. You will find this out with the hard lurch to the right coming soon. Will I be able to tell you I told you so? Possibly, if not though, the continuation of the bubble some reside will then begin making excuses for the flip flop of her newest found platform.

when one refuses to examine things. But you know that. Have a good evening.

Haters are just that, they hate.

GET.OUT THAT VOTE!

I'm pretty sure that is the only party purging gong on here. in fact, I've seen several other posts stating that is exactly what they intend to do.

Just let them stay home. We'll vote.

You can tell why that would make a huge difference.

That should be interesting.

... and crunching the figures, I came up with the appropriate number: zero.

Either you want to see a Democrat elected POTUS, or you don't. It's as simple as that. And those who don't are not worth a minute of anyone's time or effort.

Why waste time on that nonsense.

Am I right in thinking that? I'll be generous and double that for the remaining states. So she has, what, 15 % of votes? You tthink tthat's sufficient?

Is my math wrong? It is late at night. What exactly are you objecting to?

It's a waste to try and convince you any differently.

This is something you will have to come to terms with yourself.

It would be a waste of our time and resources to try and bring you into the fold. So we move on.

My vote isn't for sale. Threats won't work. Cries, of "not as bad" are past their shelf date.

I mean no offense when I say that at this point, none of us really cares why you won't vote for her. We don't have any interest in threatening you, and no one seems anxious to expend the effort to try and change your mind, because we believe you. You won't vote for her. You are irrelevant to us. I know that will sound like snark, but it is not. It is simply a statement of how things are now.

You think one thing, we think the other. We have come to a parting of the ways. There is no need for further discussion of it.

Although, your use of "we" a bit grandiose.

But, I'd still vote for him because Trump is a racist bigot.

never going to vote for her anyway.

They'll start to spend more time on other websites trashing her once they can't rat fuck here anymore.

Why other websites? Why not here? Will only praise be allowed? Is this a political discussion site or a cheerleader tryout?

Perhaps, with some examples of "trashing" Hillary.

"Poor Hillary, for a supposedly strong candidate, she seems particularly thin skinned when criticized." Criticism? Commentary? Observation? Trash?

It was you who used the word "trashing".

looking for fodder for argument?

This is a political discussion board. You may notice that arguments often occur between opponents. What do you expect? Only polite applause? No questions? No challenges? Agreement?

Good luck.

Read the TOS and you will see that, yes, agreement is expected with respect to the Democratic candidate.

Is there an Oath involved in this requirement? Contract to be signed? Punishment to be meted out?

Why not just talk about biscuit recipes or the color of tulips? Perhaps...the weather in Sierra Leone? No...too political and it may have something to do with fracking.

are you trying to fight with me about it?

I'm responding to you and your posts.

I've read the TOS and find nothing in it that dictates that we can't criticize Democrats. Even Hillary.

Okay then.

You really seem to want a fight. I don't. You go ahead and rake Hillary over the coals. Or don't. I really don't care.

And, you use circular arguments to defend your threats.

i.e.:

"Don't say that!"

"Say what?"

"Say that!"

"What's 'that""?

"Ask somebody else what "that" is".

And you don't even have a transparency page to look at. Are they winning you over?

And from my perspective, that sets up an interesting observational experiment.

The right wing is gonna vote right wing.

Here on this site, SOME (not all) keep asking 'What does she stand for?' 'I don't know her policy positions?+1???'

So I tried referring people to her web site, which spells out her policy positions very clearly.

Then they ask 'oh no I want to hear it in your own words.' Then I tell them why.

Then they reply with 'I don't believe her or you!!!+++111'

They've been mainlining haterade for so long that they don't believe anything or anyone who doesn't buy all the right wing lies about the Clintons.

It's like talking with a fundamentalist, or a brick wall. Or a troll.

it with you? Why would we care about that opinion you just gave? And for that matter, why would you feel the need to give it?

This may sound like snark, but seriously, it isn't. It's just that we should all acknowledge that we have come to a parting of the ways, and for those of us who want to support the candidate, we should acknowledge this quickly and move on.

Because I never said I wouldn't vote for her.

But I'm not ready to concede before Bernie does.

I wish I could say the same, but I can't. I don't talk to people the way you do. I don't assume things they've never said, and tried to throw them out with the trash.

I've never asked or partied at the thought of Hillary supporters leaving this forum because they don't support my candidate.

I've seen an awful lot of that from Hill camp.

take it back to the Hillary group here where Bernie supporters and Bernie are continuously trashed. Take it to the off-sight Hillary forum that is locked so we can't read the ugly things you all say about us behind our backs...or take it to the absolutely hateful Jackass radicals forum where you mock everyone who finally found a safe and open forum for Bernie supporters. A forum where we can talk about Bernie and Hillary, but topics related to Hillary supporters here are discouraged, strongly, and nothing is locked. It's wide open for all to see. Because our aim was to support Bernie, not tear this forum apart.

You tell me which side is the open and welcoming party. And keep your olive branch. You will need it if Hillary wins.

You have a nice night too.

Because you won't get any votes from us.

We'll handle it.

You can move on.

No deals with or attempt to Pander to the Paul contingent in any way.

But I want as many from the left as possible.

Kicking and screaming, but we will vote for her if we have to.