Don't expect anything of note getting accomplished during a Dem presidency except small incremental steps, if any. Not with the way congress has been operating, or rather, NOT been operating for going on 6 years now. The Dem platform is a guideline and an ideal to strive for. Reality usually looks a bit different.

party actually act. That's rather disappointing to hear, but I guess not too surprising.

It's that it's not a dictatorship. So if, say, President Sanders wants to implement a $15 minimum wage, the Senate and the House will have a say in it. (and we all know how that'll work out)

But that didn't stop Obama from overriding a majority of the delegates to have a platform that appeased Israel.

But the ugly inner-workings made visible in this cycle may make that psychological trick impossible.

Nothing about what the DNC sponsors can be trusted to serve anything but the party establishment.

It may be revealing to contemplate -who- felt better, but it didn't really change much compared to things under the Cheney administration.

they aren't actually getting what was advertised. Meh.

The platform remains the goal, and sometimes lightning strikes in a bottle and a president, the Senate, and the House can get a major piece of legislation done that is a part of said platform. Think The New Deal, hell, even the Affordable Care Act (even if it was less than we wanted).

supremely doubtful that any of his recommendations will be added, or followed even if they are. (Sorry, but cynicism has become a way of life for me over the last 20 years. Hard not to be like that in this mess of a country. *sigh*)

we've come a long way. Progress has been made, even if it hasn't been at as fast a clip as we would like.

There are many party platforms that do indeed get passed quite successfully in time. They don't always go the traditional routes, some start in states and go through the courts. And sometimes they go in pieces - and still are being fought for. But in time, we will win them. Hearts and minds are a different battle.

Party platform is PR. That's all.

and the candidate will be asked in interviews if he/she agrees with particular points of the platform. That's about it.

so as to trick the voters into thinking they are voting for liberal governance. It is quickly discarded after inauguration in favor of the secret platform worked out in back rooms with Wall Street, Israel and the Oil Industry.

"Give us subpoena power!" before the election immediately became "Impeachment is off the table!" the second the polls closed.

"Mine will be the most transparent Administration in history!" transformed into crackdowns on whistle blowers, a war on investigative journalism, and an exponential increase in classification of routine government documentation.

That so many continue to fall for this scam is disheartening, but this widespread gullibility in the Democratic rank-and-file certainly explains the support for Hillary.

although I do agree with that phenom en masse.

But "conversations" (I use that term advisably) we have here on this forum, has been with party functionaries I strongly suspect. I say that because if they discuss the issues at all, they never ever argue from FDR pov.

Not Ever.

It's Third Way Neo-Liberal Authoritarianism all day long and even at that they engage in defending their objections to policy issues with hubris, arrogance, extremely dismissive of evidence contrary to their talking points, which at best have shown to be intellectually dishonest.

Hard to give them a pass and simply regard it as gullibility, but your points still stand, mon ami.

The first are Team Blue, who don't really dig into politics any deeper than Blue Team vs. Red Team, and who have mastered the talent of DoubleThink (e.g. illegal destruction of Iraq based upon lies = BAD, because Bush, while illegal destruction of Libya based upon lies = GOOD, because Hillary/Obama). They will defend anything a Democrat does, because to even hint that a Democratic Administration might do something evil only helps the hated Red Team.

The second are paid party hacks who receive talking points from a central handler and then regurgitate them here. The main difference between these mercenaries and Team Blue is that the mercenaries are aware that they are peddling propaganda, whereas Team Blue actually believe what they are posting.

did you see RiverLover's post?

Here's my response to it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1806461

It's a well-worn meme, but a very accurate one. Makes me wonder if Democratic Establishment leaders are fucking with us just for fun.

Imaging neither candidate having the required number, and think of the time before stupid super delegates, a relatively new device.

So imagine all these delegates are at the convention and the stronger candidate favors the death penalty, it's a plank in their campaign.

And imagine the weaker candidate refusing to release his or her delegates to the stronger unless some planks are changed.

Eventually, they work things out TOGETHER and build the platform using the best (ideally) planks from each campaign.

This is one of the reasons it's important to take it to the convention.

And it's also why trying to shout down Sanders' fans is kind of undemocratic and poopheaded!

Hope this is helpful.

and how you describing what's going on now as regards shouting down Bernie supporters is their method of upending the first objective.

to achieving what the Dem voters want to accomplish.