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Bluerome

(129 posts)
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:07 PM Apr 2016

Unity? Disunity? Most of my coworkers aren't even following the election

I'm not sure that the population of this website is representative of the general public. The people here are obviously much more tuned in, so the emotions are much higher. When I ask my coworkers what they think of all the tension between the candidates, they get a puzzled look. They aren't even really following it closely. They're just casual spectators and are waiting for November to cast a ballot for the party they usually support.

Anyone else have a similar experience?

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Unity? Disunity? Most of my coworkers aren't even following the election (Original Post) Bluerome Apr 2016 OP
Hence the problem with our country SHRED Apr 2016 #1
I think it will probablly always be this way Bluerome Apr 2016 #5
Until the shit really hits the fan SHRED Apr 2016 #18
lol well I study history, so I think you may be on to something there. Bluerome Apr 2016 #20
Exactly -- most "civilians" I know have no clue about the bitter distractions DU revels in. villager Apr 2016 #2
We fight so bitterly at DU because so very little is a stake. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #6
...which will all be rendered moot by climate change denial, anyway villager Apr 2016 #10
I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #11
Gosh. Now I'm really worried. nt villager Apr 2016 #12
Planet cooks, we all die, JeffHead Apr 2016 #34
So, this was a "it doesn't matter what you say 'cause we're all gonna die"? Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #36
I think it's the Zeuss avatar... you can say anything to a Zeuss character and it sounds.... bettyellen Apr 2016 #41
it is a strange thing to suddenly realize most of the world is unaware Bluerome Apr 2016 #9
Yes all the time griffi94 Apr 2016 #3
Yeah that's pretty much what I have seen Bluerome Apr 2016 #16
I know people who griffi94 Apr 2016 #19
astonishing, right? Bluerome Apr 2016 #21
It astonishes me. griffi94 Apr 2016 #24
well, not everywhere, there are over 100 channels and 90 percent of those are not news channels Bluerome Apr 2016 #29
I guess it all depends on what you pay attention to griffi94 Apr 2016 #30
A lot of Dems are detached, assumed HRC would get the nomination. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #4
Probably the vast majority of people in general are detached. It boggles my mind Bluerome Apr 2016 #15
Yes. I know very smart people who keep up with current events who never heard of the DLC. merrily Apr 2016 #7
LoL that is almost exactly the experience I've been having at work. And they're Bluerome Apr 2016 #13
So you see there is no problem rock Apr 2016 #8
That's why the media is so dangerous, they are script writers, not truth seekers Bluerome Apr 2016 #17
Yep rock Apr 2016 #43
This is why I want only Democrats deciding who our Democratic nominee LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #14
And I insist, you pay for your own party function nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #23
You are free to register as a Democrat, or Republican or Green or Libertarian, etc. LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #25
You run a closed primary, you pay for it nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #26
ANYONE can register to vote as a Democrat, but you have to register LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #28
I don't care what you say, nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #31
Elections aren't private functions. Choose Nadine. Pick a side. LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #37
Parties are... ergo you are a private club and function nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #39
I feel that exact same way about the library griffi94 Apr 2016 #35
YOu are comparing a public facility with a private party? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #38
hmm, tricky issue. I want everyone to care, but those that starting caring at the last minute? Bluerome Apr 2016 #27
On a much bigger picture this country needs top down electoral reforms nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #33
And that is why we get the leaders we get nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #22
Same experience here. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #32
The citizenry is apathetic. Nothing new. But Bernie has energized a lot of them so ... snowy owl Apr 2016 #40
Ignorance IS bliss. Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #42
The average person I know thinks the 5 major candidates are all awful bigwillq Apr 2016 #44
Gee, I wonder why. People hold the most power you know. Joob Apr 2016 #45
 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
18. Until the shit really hits the fan
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:27 PM
Apr 2016

When we are scrambling to survive due to the climate and the disease and suffering it will bring.

Too late then.
I'll probably be dead by then thank goodness but I fear for my grandkids and others.

Bluerome

(129 posts)
20. lol well I study history, so I think you may be on to something there.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:29 PM
Apr 2016

Shit hits the fan=react=some change=pacified=shithitsthefan...

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
2. Exactly -- most "civilians" I know have no clue about the bitter distractions DU revels in.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:11 PM
Apr 2016

And these are the ones prone to vote for the Democratic nominee, regardless.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
10. ...which will all be rendered moot by climate change denial, anyway
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:18 PM
Apr 2016

Sooner or later.

No "politics as usual," regardless.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
36. So, this was a "it doesn't matter what you say 'cause we're all gonna die"?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:47 PM
Apr 2016

Why did he pick my post for that?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
41. I think it's the Zeuss avatar... you can say anything to a Zeuss character and it sounds....
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:59 PM
Apr 2016

rational somehow.

Bluerome

(129 posts)
9. it is a strange thing to suddenly realize most of the world is unaware
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:17 PM
Apr 2016

of the thing you are obsessing over. It was strange for me

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
3. Yes all the time
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:14 PM
Apr 2016

And even among the people I know who are into politics
it's not like most of the members here.

They'll be for or against a particular thing or particular politician
but they never get really angry.
It's never a life or death cause for them.

Most of the people I know IRL watch it and are mildy interested
but they're not passionate about it.

Bluerome

(129 posts)
16. Yeah that's pretty much what I have seen
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:22 PM
Apr 2016

For someone like me who is aware of my world, it is strange to see so many people walking around this earth completely unaware of most of what is going on

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
24. It astonishes me.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:34 PM
Apr 2016

How could you forget to vote.

I mean it's not like it's surprise electio. You have a solid year
where it's everywhere.

Bluerome

(129 posts)
29. well, not everywhere, there are over 100 channels and 90 percent of those are not news channels
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:41 PM
Apr 2016

But ask my neighbors what the latest development is on a telenovela and they can quote whole scripts

merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. Yes. I know very smart people who keep up with current events who never heard of the DLC.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:16 PM
Apr 2016

I was talking to a relative in December. Bright as heck. Stuyvesant High plus college. Works in supposedly liberal Hollywood show business as a camera operator.

I asked if he was supporting Hillary or Sanders. He said Sanders. I asked him about his SO and he replied she was not thinking about it because the election was a year away. I had to point out to him that the primaries were starting soon and the time to support Sanders was then, if they expected him to make it to the election. No reaction.

Bluerome

(129 posts)
13. LoL that is almost exactly the experience I've been having at work. And they're
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:20 PM
Apr 2016

all highly educated people.

rock

(13,218 posts)
8. So you see there is no problem
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:16 PM
Apr 2016

Except for the ones that want there to be. The news media in particular always likes to make it a close horse race, And politicians like to make every issue a super critical one so you'll contribute money. Now we do have severe problems when we select someone like George w who is just plain old incompetent or Donald Trump can't even reach that bar. Welcome to DU. Hope you stay a while.

LuvLoogie

(7,007 posts)
14. This is why I want only Democrats deciding who our Democratic nominee
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:20 PM
Apr 2016

should be. Not the disinterested. Not the uninterested. Nor those who can't choose a side and hedge until the last minute. The general election is open. The general election is for the actual office. The primary is for a given party's candidate. It's not an eBay auction

If you wan't to remain unaffiliated during the primary, then chose an unaffiliated candidate, or run one if there isn't one.

And if you aren't paying attention, then you might get left in the dust.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
23. And I insist, you pay for your own party function
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:32 PM
Apr 2016

don't make me pay for it. And I mean the full kit and kabbodle. Oh and do not program it during a regular election either.

LuvLoogie

(7,007 posts)
25. You are free to register as a Democrat, or Republican or Green or Libertarian, etc.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:37 PM
Apr 2016

You disenfranchise yourself.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
26. You run a closed primary, you pay for it
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:38 PM
Apr 2016

that includes any other party as well.

I am going to lobby my legislature for that dear. I am tired of gifting private parties.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
31. I don't care what you say,
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:43 PM
Apr 2016

it is a private function from a private party, recognized by the courts. CRITICAL WORD... PRIVATE. Ergo the public should not pay for it. It is that simple, And actually that is in my state constitution. That public money is not used for private functions. It is considered a gift of PUBLIC FUNDS.

And if that forces you to do caucuses everywhere, by all means, please proceed.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
39. Parties are... ergo you are a private club and function
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:54 PM
Apr 2016

pick a lane.

Either the courts are WRONG in finding parties to be a private organization... which they have, or they are not... If you are a private organization as found by the courts. you fund your own primary. For the record, NOWHERE in the US Constitution are Primaries mentioned, nor are parties.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
35. I feel that exact same way about the library
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:47 PM
Apr 2016

I hate that any of my tax money goes to pay for a library.

I tried to check out a book but they wouldn't let me without a library card.

I ask how much the card was and was told it was free
but I really don't think I ahould have to join the library
just to get a book if it were free anyway.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
38. YOu are comparing a public facility with a private party?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:52 PM
Apr 2016

alrightty then. Next you will tell me you do not want to build public roads, or fire stations, I know the type. Here is the rub, the PUBLIC LIBRARY is funded for the use of citizens with TAX money. Political parties have been found to be PRIVATE organizations by the courts. You are trying to have it both ways.

Pick a lane, if you are private, FUND YOUR OWN FUNCTION... I will understand if you own a sports team though why you are confused. For the record, stadia should not be funded either by any tax money.

Bluerome

(129 posts)
27. hmm, tricky issue. I want everyone to care, but those that starting caring at the last minute?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:39 PM
Apr 2016

Should they have all the gates opened to vote however they want, in any primary or party? I honestly haven't thought enough about that question. I'll have to ponder it

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
33. On a much bigger picture this country needs top down electoral reforms
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:45 PM
Apr 2016

there are many reasons people do not vote. And you know what? They make more sense than actually caring.

We have compromised elections. And electoral systems, they vary from state to state, that would not pass muster globally as open and fair elections. Our voting ratios are terrible, and partisans on both sides, want to keep it that way.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
22. And that is why we get the leaders we get
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:32 PM
Apr 2016

but then there is the majority that never votes, and I have talked to many of them. I have been told several variations of it does not matter, why bother, nothing ever changes.

Pro tip, most voters start paying attention six weeks before any election, Why I need to start programing my interviews with local candidates.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
32. Same experience here.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:44 PM
Apr 2016

The vast majority of people I know are barely interested other than to occasionally snark at Trump and all but a few are even marginally interested. The remaining few are mixed between Hillary and Bernie with a few Trumps I leave alone because they work for me.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
40. The citizenry is apathetic. Nothing new. But Bernie has energized a lot of them so ...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:58 PM
Apr 2016

hopefully going forward and given another very good progressive, change will come about. Your circle of friends and acquaintances perhaps are still doing fairly well. It is the lower middle class, poor and young who are most effected by his campaign. I hope they will stay registered/get registered and make a difference eventually. One can only hope. Few of my friends are hurting and most are for the democratic candidate even though they aren't paying a lot of attention. Bernie's candidacy has educated a lot of people.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
44. The average person I know thinks the 5 major candidates are all awful
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 07:46 AM
Apr 2016

And that both parties suck.

Joob

(1,065 posts)
45. Gee, I wonder why. People hold the most power you know.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 07:55 AM
Apr 2016

Keeping people in the dark, not highlighting the importance of our political system in education, pushing it off to the side as a distraction through mainstream media, only to gather our attention for one vote, in the general election.

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