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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. True, the worry is if it's Cruz or (God help us) Kasich
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:17 PM
Apr 2016

Unfortunately Sanders doesn't do very well against Kasich either; OTOH he does beat outpoll Cruz head to head more often than Clinton does.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
12. I think we are OK if it's Cruz. Kasich, I agree, would be a problem. But for whatever reason,
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:43 PM
Apr 2016

there doesn't seem to be much sentiment coalescing behind him.

I almost hope that Trump wins the primary, but to have such an idiot that close to the presidency is a horrible and dangerous thing.

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)
3. The problem is,
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:17 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary has a habit of starting with a big lead and then it's all down hill. If she and Trump are the nominees and if this poll is correct we can only hope the General Election comes before that 18 point lead drops to "within the margin of error".

MadBadger

(24,089 posts)
4. That happens with unknowns as Obama and Bernie were
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:19 PM
Apr 2016

People learned about the others and liked them. People know about Trump. He is a known commodity, and a lot of people don't like him either.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
8. Come on, seriously? You never saw this happen before with one well known and one relatively
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:26 PM
Apr 2016

unknown candidate?

Are you guys ALL new to this?

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)
10. Been at it more than 40 years
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:38 PM
Apr 2016

Leads narrow, sometimes they go up and down, but I can't think of anyone who blows big leads the way Hillary has done so often.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
11. So in 40 years you have never seen a well known candidate against an unknown candidate. Bizarre.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:41 PM
Apr 2016

Because this ALWAYS happens.

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)
13. Yes, I've seen unknowns chip away at a well know candidate's lead
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:54 PM
Apr 2016

the most dramatic being Wellstone's race in 1990. But as a rule the unknowns don't over take and beat the well known candidate.




Squinch

(50,950 posts)
14. Honestly I don't know what to say about that. First,I don't know why you think it is relevant here,
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:57 PM
Apr 2016

because the unknown did not beat the well known.

And second, there are plenty of cases where the relatively unknown underdog has gone on to beat the known. I believe one of them was named Obama.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
5. Of course she does.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:20 PM
Apr 2016

The majority of Trump supporters are angry and hateful to the point of being inhinged.
They've had a couple of deades now of listening to hate media
and they've finally gone rabid.

They don't even care if they win. They just want to want to get even with somebody. It doesn't matter who.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
7. Well, that doesn't follow the script! I also heard a pundit yesterday (and I'm sorry, I
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:24 PM
Apr 2016

can't source this because I can't remember exactly who said it) talking about exit polls at the Republican primary in which a high percentage of Republicans were frightened of a Trump presidency. I think those will be a good chunk more votes for Hillary.

She'll do just fine in the GE.

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