Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
53 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
what has Hillary said she would do about homelessness in America? (Original Post) reddread Apr 2016 OP
I think she said something about giving them a tax credit EndElectoral Apr 2016 #1
Real estate developers in countries in Central America are flooded with Americans Baobab Apr 2016 #19
Make it a felony to be homeless. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #2
There's a business opportunity there: CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #3
It's time we started looking at homelessness as a business opportunity Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #4
Hillary said that about Iraq. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #5
yes she did. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #6
Yup. Just listening to Amy Goodman... CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #7
Interesting you would say that. Listened to a Union rep who jwirr Apr 2016 #42
Nope! JSup Apr 2016 #30
Would they serve their time in private prisons? Ken Burch Apr 2016 #41
So you're saying private prisons are Hillary's idea of Public Housing? Sounds right! cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #50
Senator for 8 years - NY'ers, what did she do for you re homelessness and other things? snowy owl Apr 2016 #8
She will give them more company on the street onecaliberal Apr 2016 #9
I didn't hear her whole pitch, but it was something about them eating a cake. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #10
What did team Bill n Hill do when they were in the WH or when they were in Arkansas? Kalidurga Apr 2016 #11
Bill just finished a book ... Baobab Apr 2016 #20
If it's anything like Melurkyoulongtime Apr 2016 #12
Increase it? nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #13
due to LNG export? Baobab Apr 2016 #21
speech on housing market Baobab Apr 2016 #22
Not a goddamn thing. stranger81 Apr 2016 #14
maybe I should have started with upper middle class? reddread Apr 2016 #15
Export opportunity / baby farming Baobab Apr 2016 #23
Took the time to read both links. Horrible. And this is were jwirr Apr 2016 #46
She has nothing substantive about anything. Just platitudes. On this issue or anything else. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #16
doesnt this merit a reasoned response from a pro-Hillary supporter? reddread Apr 2016 #17
It has to be compliant with our trade ideology Baobab Apr 2016 #18
I don't think homeless people exist in her mind senz Apr 2016 #24
Send them back!! RobertEarl Apr 2016 #25
Tell them to cut it out jberryhill Apr 2016 #26
No answers, not a big problem :( nt slipslidingaway Apr 2016 #27
I doubt she could make things worse reddread Apr 2016 #28
Well you never know, we could invade another country and there would be nothing left ... slipslidingaway Apr 2016 #29
vets have the golden ticket reddread Apr 2016 #32
Older women. jwirr Apr 2016 #47
everywhere reddread Apr 2016 #49
Expansion and then soulless extraction from them in some corporate scam TheKentuckian Apr 2016 #31
Normally resent seeing Trump mentioned in GD-P, but reddread Apr 2016 #33
Draft them into the military. B Calm Apr 2016 #34
According to the totally-not-a-paid-campaigner at my NV caucus precinct LadyHawkAZ Apr 2016 #35
she loves homeless people fluffyclouds Apr 2016 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author AllyCat Apr 2016 #37
Might be good to at least check before making assumptions treestar Apr 2016 #38
what assumptions? reddread Apr 2016 #45
look at the responses that she does not care about the homeless treestar Apr 2016 #52
then reply to them reddread Apr 2016 #53
Fracking will solve all their woes. Or, there's always a hitch in the military... NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #39
I think I can point you to some info on that Tarc Apr 2016 #40
Tell them to "Cut it out." 99Forever Apr 2016 #43
Hide them. Somewhere. ridgenvalley Apr 2016 #44
Bring them to heel. n/t jack_krass Apr 2016 #48
Simple yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #51

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
19. Real estate developers in countries in Central America are flooded with Americans
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:24 AM
Apr 2016

Buying housing, lots of land is being cleared (of inhabitants) to make ready for them.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
4. It's time we started looking at homelessness as a business opportunity
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:16 PM
Apr 2016

That slogan works with just about anything.

like, It's time we started looking at drug addiction as a business opportunity.
 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
7. Yup. Just listening to Amy Goodman...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:30 PM
Apr 2016

What Hillary did to aid the Honduran coup, insist on "fair" elections that legitimized the coup regime...
...it's eerily similar to our current primary process and all of it's bullshit tricks under a guise of fairness.

What she did in Honduras should be a war crime:

AMY GOODMAN: That was Honduran environmental activist Berta Cáceres speaking in 2014. She was murdered last week in her home in La Esperanza in Honduras. Last year, she won the Goldman Environmental Prize. She’s a leading environmentalist in the world. Professor Grandin?

GREG GRANDIN: Yeah, and she criticizes Hillary Clinton’s book, Hard Choices, where Clinton was holding up her actions in Honduras as an example of a clear-eyed pragmatism. I mean, that book is effectively a confession. Every other country in the world or in Latin America was demanding the restitution of democracy and the return of Manuel Zelaya. It was Clinton who basically relegated that to a secondary concern and insisted on elections, which had the effect of legitimizing and routinizing the coup regime and creating the nightmare scenario that exists today.

I mean—and it’s also in her emails. The real scandal about the emails isn’t the question about process—you know, she wanted to create an off-the-books communication thing that couldn’t be FOIAed. The real scandal about those emails are the content of the emails. She talks—the process by which she works to delegitimate Zelaya and legitimate the elections, which Cáceres, in that interview, talks about were taking place under extreme militarized conditions, fraudulent, a fig leaf of democracy, are all in the emails.

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: And particularly what does she say in them?

GREG GRANDIN: Well, she talks about trying to work towards a movement towards legitimating—getting other countries, pressuring other countries to accept the results of the election and give up the demand that Zelaya be returned and basically stop calling it a coup.

http://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/11/before_her_assassination_berta_caceres_singled

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
42. Interesting you would say that. Listened to a Union rep who
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:46 PM
Apr 2016

said that the little house movement is hurting union carpenters.

I beg to differ. The homeless have no money to buy a new house anyhow. So if tiny houses were practical it would have nothing to do with carpenters unions.

I am technically homeless - have been moving in and out of relatives homes for almost 10 years. Dead tired of it and would love a tiny house.

JSup

(740 posts)
30. Nope!
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:54 AM
Apr 2016
Don’t criminalize the homeless
Criminalizing the homeless whose only offense is that they have no home is wrong. Locking people up for a day will not take a single homeless person off the streets for good. It will not make a mentally ill person who should be in an institution any better. It will not help find a job for a responsible person who is willing to work.
Source: CNN.com’s “Talkback Live” , Dec 2, 1999


http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm#Welfare_+_Poverty

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
11. What did team Bill n Hill do when they were in the WH or when they were in Arkansas?
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:05 AM
Apr 2016

IIRC it was to make things worse. No doubt it's the same model Hill will follow if Dog forbid she gets elected.

Melurkyoulongtime

(136 posts)
12. If it's anything like
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:03 AM
Apr 2016

her husband's "welfare reform" was expect a lot more of us citizens living in the streets

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
15. maybe I should have started with upper middle class?
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:21 AM
Apr 2016

worked my way down to impoverished and homeless communities?

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
23. Export opportunity / baby farming
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:31 AM
Apr 2016

send them to other countries and pay governments some flat fee to take them and "assume all responsibility"..

Like baby farming in England, a potential disaster for the poor, (baby farming represents a forgotten Holocaust.)

http://www.loyno.edu/~history/journal/1989-0/haller.htm

http://www.ultimatehistoryproject.com/baby-farmers-and-angelmakers-childcare-in-19th-century-england.html

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
46. Took the time to read both links. Horrible. And this is were
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:54 PM
Apr 2016

our attitudes towards the poor come from. I wonder if the American Orphan Train idea came from the baby farms idea?

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
17. doesnt this merit a reasoned response from a pro-Hillary supporter?
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:56 PM
Apr 2016

it is all I was asking for.
wtf?

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
18. It has to be compliant with our trade ideology
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:20 AM
Apr 2016

Hotels even rent by the hour pod hotels, include foreign hotel firms- As they are significant investors in the US housing is world trade, so whatever we do has to respect their investments and not cause "crowd out" or be "trade distorting".

the core concept you need to understand is a body of economics called competition theory.

the presumption is always that more money buys more and less money must buy less.

Examples:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flophouse#Cage_hotel

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2084971/Hong-Kongs-cage-homes-Tens-thousands-living-6ft-2ft-rabbit-hutches.html

Due to trade liberalisation, there may be some degree of turnover or replacement of current working class residents of the US by temporary workers whose residency is contingent on their corporate employment so if they lose their jobs (or when the period ends, maybe five to seven ears) they rotate out, they will do most of the skilled jobs at the entry level . basically a race to the bottom as jobs dry up.

As far as people currently resident here its likely many will 'voluntarily' relocate due to lack of ability to afford to stay. if they were causing any disturbance i suspect that their care would likely be outsourced to someplace like Nauru which is basically an island that specializes in privatised imprisonment, they specialize in warehousing refugees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauru

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
24. I don't think homeless people exist in her mind
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:49 AM
Apr 2016

but if it becomes an issue, an aide will write up some properly concerned remarks for her.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
29. Well you never know, we could invade another country and there would be nothing left ...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:28 AM
Apr 2016

except more homeless people and some of those are homeless veterans.







 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
32. vets have the golden ticket
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:42 AM
Apr 2016

they can access assistance. its the elderly people in their 70's on the streets
who werent veterans that have a tough time finding some give a damn.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
49. everywhere
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:08 PM
Apr 2016

surviving when nobody cares.
the human race isnt fit to kiss the feet of their castaways.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
33. Normally resent seeing Trump mentioned in GD-P, but
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:18 AM
Apr 2016

I wonder how he would respond to the same question?

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
35. According to the totally-not-a-paid-campaigner at my NV caucus precinct
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:18 AM
Apr 2016

(paraphrased)

I understand your concern, this is an important issue and she understands that there's a homelessness problem, and of course we need to make sure people aren't going to work every day and can't afford to pay rent, as President she will make sure shelters get the funding they need and if you look at her record, she's always been a big supporter of families, children and families, and she'll fund programs like Head Start that help needy children, you know in the 90s her husband was responsible for the biggest increase in Head Start funding, she's always supported families and she will do everything she can to you know, get this issue solved.

No joke. According to that guy, she'll solve the problem by throwing a little money at shelters and Head Start.

Campaign patter notwithstanding, I think the guy is probably right; throw a little more money at solutions that are supposed to be for emergencies (and don't work, and in many cases are downright dangerous) so she can present it as funding a permanent solution. I'm not down on Head Start, it's a good program, but what's really needed is universal child care, universal health care, and paid sick leave. Funding shelters is a good thing; funding them in lieu of real housing without lockout times unreasonable for working people, bedbugs, theft and drugs doesn't actually help when what's needed is real, stable housing, real, stable jobs, drug treatment that isn't "cold turkey in prison" and health care- physical and mental.

AKA "free stuff" and "unrealistic" in this "wrong political climate".

But, what do I know, I'm just a "Bro".

Response to fluffyclouds (Reply #36)

treestar

(82,383 posts)
38. Might be good to at least check before making assumptions
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:40 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Hillary_Clinton_Welfare_+_Poverty.htm

Establish a National Affordable Housing Trust Fund.

Clinton co-sponsored the National Affordable Housing Trust Fund Act
Establishes the National Affordable Housing Trust Fund in the Treasury to promote the development of affordable low-income housing through grants to States and local jurisdictions.
Source: Bill sponsored by 22 Senators 03-S1411 on Jul 15, 2003
Tax credits to promote home ownership in distressed areas.

Clinton co-sponsored the Community Development Homeownership Tax Credit Act
Amends the Internal Revenue Code to permit a community homeownership tax credit based upon an applicable percentage of each qualified residence's eligible basis. Makes such credit available to residences (including factory built homes) located:
in a census tract with a median gross income not exceeding 80 percent of the greater area or statewide median gross income;
in a rural area;
on an Indian reservation; or
in an area of chronic economic distress.
Prohibits a buyer's income from exceeding 80 percent (70 percent for families of less than three) of the area gross median income and requires owner occupancy.
Source: Bill sponsored by 45 Senators 03-S875 on Apr 10, 2003

Don’t criminalize the homeless

Criminalizing the homeless whose only offense is that they have no home is wrong. Locking people up for a day will not take a single homeless person off the streets for good. It will not make a mentally ill person who should be in an institution any better. It will not help find a job for a responsible person who is willing to work.
Source: CNN.com’s “Talkback Live” , Dec 2, 1999


and others at source

treestar

(82,383 posts)
52. look at the responses that she does not care about the homeless
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:29 AM
Apr 2016

the shallow posts above making jokes assuming her position on them is Marie Antoinette's. They've created a fictional Hillary and go from there.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
53. then reply to them
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:31 AM
Apr 2016

Last edited Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:21 PM - Edit history (1)

or better yet, show us how she will improve one of the greatest travesties in our modern society.
I am sincere here. this is an important topic that impacts us disproportionately here.

If you could link me to some video clips of her this year discussing homelessness issues I would
greatly appreciate it.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
39. Fracking will solve all their woes. Or, there's always a hitch in the military...
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:42 PM
Apr 2016

see the world, well the parts with sand and oil anyway.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
43. Tell them to "Cut it out."
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:51 PM
Apr 2016

Problem solved, Hillary Goldman Sachs Clinton style.

Now, quit asking silly questions.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»what has Hillary said she...