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Renew Deal

(81,860 posts)
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:42 PM Apr 2016

David Plouffe Tweet: "raising $$ stating you have path to nomination is fraud.”

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“Sanders has run a stunningly strong campaign fueled by passionate supporters,” David Plouffe, Mr. Obama’s former campaign manager, wrote on Twitter on Wednesday. “But raising $$ stating you have path to nomination is fraud.”

Mr. Devine of the Sanders campaign responded: “Fraud is a hard word to put out there. I respect David, but I don’t believe we’re lying or being fraudulent in saying we think we still have a path to the nomination.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/21/us/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign.html

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David Plouffe Tweet: "raising $$ stating you have path to nomination is fraud.” (Original Post) Renew Deal Apr 2016 OP
Sending Sanders another donation in AM. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #1
Same here Mnpaul Apr 2016 #24
Staying in it until every state can vote for Bernie also will generate a massive database of us JimDandy Apr 2016 #34
Sanders has no path to the nomination and so he is lying to his supporters Gothmog Apr 2016 #2
We'll see how things go tomorrow Renew Deal Apr 2016 #3
Bullshit, he's gone from 2 to 5 scheduled events since yesterday jfern Apr 2016 #19
Hillary's lies, no biggie. Perceived lie by a Bernie surrogate, oh yeah... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #4
Hillary has no path to the Presidency. dchill Apr 2016 #7
Yeah, I'll believe him over you. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #14
Bernie and his delegates in Philly have a CLEAR path to pushing the Democratic Platform Turn CO Blue Apr 2016 #21
Bernie has a reputation for being extremely honest and trustworthy Samantha Apr 2016 #22
Anything can happen, keep juggling raw eggs and eventually one may drop, make a big mess nc4bo Apr 2016 #5
Hillary cites RFK assassination in explaining why she's still in race - MAY 23 2008 chascarrillo Apr 2016 #6
WOW lmbradford Apr 2016 #8
What are you talking about? Renew Deal Apr 2016 #15
You keep saying that. You're still wrong. Codeine Apr 2016 #18
Still not correcting your misinformed and counterfactual statement? nt Codeine Apr 2016 #35
No he wasn't, and you damned well know it. Codeine Apr 2016 #37
He has no problem with Hillary raising tens of millions from her Wall Street benefactors. imagine2015 Apr 2016 #9
Until all Hillary's investigations are closed, this is not true. dinkytron Apr 2016 #10
++++++++++++++++ nt grasswire Apr 2016 #12
The Clinton Foundation Aerows Apr 2016 #26
MYOB, Plouffe grasswire Apr 2016 #11
David Plouffe is a lying piece of shit Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #13
What is fraud? sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #16
David is the fraud and david is the liar. Csainvestor Apr 2016 #17
Well, you know the old saying ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #20
+++++++ nt nolawarlock Apr 2016 #23
You can take that to the bank! Or banks. You know those Too Big To Fail banks that rigged markets think Apr 2016 #25
Care to comment on the topic being discussed? n/t NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #27
Sure. The issues are very important. Hillary is still having her server investigated by the FBI think Apr 2016 #28
If there was no path, he wouldn't even have commented. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #29
David Plouffe TM99 Apr 2016 #30
TweedleDEEvine and TweedleWEEver gotta get paid. oasis Apr 2016 #31
Thanks for helping to raise more $$$ for Bernie! JimDandy Apr 2016 #32
All It Would Take Would Be One Reporter To Actually Investigate "The Foundation" And It Would Be scottie55 Apr 2016 #33
I want Bernie to keep his message out there til the convention riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #36

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
24. Same here
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:12 AM
Apr 2016

It's worth it just to get his message out and it proves that you don't have to sell out to be competitive. This drives the sellouts crazy.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
34. Staying in it until every state can vote for Bernie also will generate a massive database of us
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:10 AM
Apr 2016

Progressives that can be used to bring us together to undo the systemic damage the corporatists, oligarchs, third-wayers and neo-cons have done to our country. Lots of pluses, besides the obvious ones, for taking it all the way to the convention.

Go Bernie!!

dchill

(38,501 posts)
7. Hillary has no path to the Presidency.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:51 PM
Apr 2016

Except through an FBI investigation. God forbid she gets the nomination before the FBI report comes out.

Turn CO Blue

(4,221 posts)
21. Bernie and his delegates in Philly have a CLEAR path to pushing the Democratic Platform
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:44 AM
Apr 2016

in Philly the entire week of the National Convention -- since they will be there in large numbers. Somewhere between 1200 and 1900 populist progressive Bernie delegates will be there, will be attending every meeting, will be vocal and won't run out for photo ops and cocktail parties, and who will push for more aggressively progressive planks and DNC agendas.

THAT is what I am interested in.

Read the platform we have now. There is just a sentence or two each about jobs, the economy, civil rights, marriage equality, equal pay, etc -- practically the whole thing is paragraph after paragraph about foreign policy, about having a strong military presence over the world and a global economy.

On balance, it reads like a pro-foreign interventionist and fiscal Republican wrote it.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
22. Bernie has a reputation for being extremely honest and trustworthy
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:48 AM
Apr 2016

Just ask the 25 percent of the Republicans who vote for him in Vermont. It is this reputation the Clinton campaign is ruthlessly trying to attack since her reputation as someone who could be trusted has sunk in the polls. Sinking Sanders' reputation would neutralize that problem. Typical political play but unfortunately it will not work in this case. His reputation has already been established over the long haul.

His supporters know exactly the situation, so we choose to continue our donations.

Sam

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
5. Anything can happen, keep juggling raw eggs and eventually one may drop, make a big mess
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:50 PM
Apr 2016

The fox comes in, cleans up the mess and lives to keep up the fight.

At least no one from Camp Sanders brought up Kennedy's assassination. I'd REALLY be horrified.




lmbradford

(517 posts)
8. WOW
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:52 PM
Apr 2016

Obama was farther behind at this same point in the election and managed to make up the deficit. What has happened to this man? Sick sick sick. I know because I was there raising money for Obama and fighting Clinton then in the same way that I am now. This statement puts me in shock......totally pathetic.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
26. The Clinton Foundation
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:19 AM
Apr 2016

is Hillary's Pandora's box, and once it is opened, she's done. I've said this all along.

I hope for the sake of our party that I am wrong, but going into the GE with that and the other albatross of the insecure email server around her neck, it won't be a walk in the park if she's our nominee.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
16. What is fraud?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:57 PM
Apr 2016

Desinfrenchasing thousands of voters?

Making sure that the 'so called" clean voting machines
either don't work or are not functioning?

Sending misleading cards out to send them to
a wrong voter station?

Not opening those sites, but two hours later?

We know what is happening, and what happened
during the whole process in this caucus/ primary
election. Unfortunately the general public does
not even know, what caging means.

Csainvestor

(388 posts)
17. David is the fraud and david is the liar.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:59 PM
Apr 2016

Down by 30 with 30 minutes to go - is the game over?

Does the losing team just quit? Until a team is mathematically eliminated there is no quiting.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
20. Well, you know the old saying ...
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:43 AM
Apr 2016
"A fool and his $27 are soon parted."

And as long as the money keeps coming in, there's no way Devine is going to end this farce.

Is he deliberately lying to people in order to bilk them out of their cash? Absolutely.

But he's now in the same realm as TV evangelists who promise eternal salvation in exchange for donations. In other words, if there are people willing to hand over money to snake-oil salesmen promising them miracles, those salesmen stay in business.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
25. You can take that to the bank! Or banks. You know those Too Big To Fail banks that rigged markets
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:18 AM
Apr 2016

but still had time to give Hillary Clinton millions of dollars to speak to them.

You know. The ones like Goldman Sachs that admitted defrauding their clients.

Ya. Those banks....

 

think

(11,641 posts)
28. Sure. The issues are very important. Hillary is still having her server investigated by the FBI
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:30 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie represents the issues I care about. Hillary represents Goldman Sachs.

Anything can still happen. David Plouffe is an establishment hack with bullshit for an opinion. He's lying by calling it fraud. The path may be very unlikely but Bernie isn't out yet.

I'll keep donating. thank you for your concern....

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
30. David Plouffe
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:50 AM
Apr 2016

is a fucking asshole.

Hillary must have been a fraud in 2008 because she ran many months after Obama had it sewn up. She was still spewing racist (Bobby Kennedy died!) comments right up to the bitter end.

Wasn't she a fraud too? Did she not raise money when there was obviously no way she was going to win?

Hypocrisy must be a virtue and a job prerequisite in the upside-down world of the Clinton Machine.

 

scottie55

(1,400 posts)
33. All It Would Take Would Be One Reporter To Actually Investigate "The Foundation" And It Would Be
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:04 AM
Apr 2016

Game over.

But that isn't going to happen.

The media is actually part of HRC's campaign.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
36. I want Bernie to keep his message out there til the convention
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:09 AM
Apr 2016

He'll get my financial support as long as he's able to keep getting in front of people willing to hear it.

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