"There is no intermediate step between a final Supreme Court decision and a violent revolution. what was best for the country, the answer was very simple, to respect the rule of law and avoid undermining it and dragging the court into a partisan squabble where the outcome would not change in any case. So I am going to stand by my decision to respect the judiciary,"

Al Gore respected the rule of law and did not choose not to move to violent revolution.

He did not concede for unity. He conceded because there was no other recourse after the Supreme Court made its terrible decision.

by not requesting a total recount which would have changed e everything. Thanks for the fact check.

He betrayed future generations, in order to preserve his own "electability" at some later date (which did not come).

He should have forced them to take from him by running all the options. He asked the Congressional Black Caucus to step back.

He was wrong.

Never again.

In Gore's own words, there simply was not recourse once the Supreme Court ruled.

He may not have PLANNED to run again, but part of the Bushie taunts to him were that he needed to concede to "be a statesman" and protect his legacy. That struck him deeply.

Do you remember "Sore Loserman"?? Wingnuts gathered outside the VP residence for days and hollered that at him, and "Get out of Cheney's house!!!" And beat drums and pots and pans.

He should not have capitulated.

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As he said, there was no other recourse.

Yes, I do remember.

It was one of the more unpleasant moments in our history.

You really aren't one of the more unpleasant moments in our history. I think for the most part you are pretty pleasant.

(sorry, that typo struck me as hilarious)

Pity the Supreme Court didn't.

Gore, coaxed by Warren Christopher and others, wound up legitimizing one of the worst Presidents in U.S. history.

been thrown to the US Congress.

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He was a coward and let the country down. He respected those in power and not the system that was being destroyed.

The longer you hold us down the more violent the revolution.

have a good night.

He was part of the corrupt culture that we must overthrow. I hope violence isn't needed but that hope is fading. You can't beat us down forever.

being in office, right?

coward's way of rationalizing the 8 fucking years we had under Bush. And even now, some Democrats choose to live under the thumb of the Ruling Class because they are afraid to fight for their freedoms. Gore knew that if we didn't do something then to address the stealing of the presidency, it would only get worse and worse. But he is one of the Ruling Class and the consequences didn't hurt him one bit. His wealth probably like the Clintons. Profiting on the suffering of others.

We have 16 million children living in poverty and another 16 million living in low income homes. We have 2.5 million homeless American children. We have more infants die before the age of 1 year than any other modern country. We have over 1.5 million people incarcerated and millions more felons out of prison that cant find employment.

How bad must it get before you are willing to stand up and fight?

had the election been thrown to the US Congress.

In Bush v. Gore, Justice Breyer told the nation -- and Gore -- exactly what needed to happen. As he noted in his dissent, the Electoral Count Act makes it the duty of Congress to ultimately resolve such a situation. In quoting the legislative history, he cites that:

They can only count legal votes, and in doing so must determine, from the best evidence to be had, what are legal votes…

The power to judge of the legality of the votes is a necessary consequent of the power to count. The existence of this power is of absolute necessity to the preservation of the Government."

Bush v. Gore, J.Breyer dissent (11) December 12, 2000

If no candidate for President has enough electoral votes to reach the magic number, the election of the President goes to the House of Representatives, but not before March 1st. Republicans controlled the House on March 1st 2001. Bush would have been elected by Republicans in the House.

Of course, all that hinged on the notion that no candidate had won the requisite numbers in the electoral college. Bush V. Gore handed the Presidency to George W. Bush that majority. Had it actually gone to a vote in the House, Bush would have been elected by Republicans in the House.

The whole notion that Gore could have somehow fought and been elected is absolutely false. It has no Constitutional or historical basis. It is a fantasy.

Gore, of course, knew that. His only recourse to lead a violent revolution, which would have failed and led to the needless death, and would still have failed.

Nothing to do with "magic number." When the appointment of a slate of electors is rejected as unlawful, they are no longer counted among the "appointed."

Talk to Barbara Boxer about it. She stood with Stephanie Tubbs Jones to object to the Ohio electors in 2004.

The final outcome is irrelevant. In the face of such colossal evil, we must stand and do what conscience demands, as Gore should have.

bastardization of such to justify inaction.

another thread on the insidiousness of the "can't win, so don't fight" meme.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1810499

Bush would have been elected anyway.

And, now, I am out of here.

After Hillary Clinton disrespects the 1st and 4th amendments with respect to encryption and digital privacy via domestic surveillance, things will most definitely be worse.

This is going to be a summer like no other in recent history. The Benghazi committee is releasing its report on July 18.

You're on record as not caring though, so I understand there's not much progress to be made here. Indeed, you're for the regressive candidate in this regard.

But it's ok, my knowledge of what you believe in and don't believe in tells me everything I need to know about how to value your opinions in the future.

in my place by splaining to me what I value. Bye

The Clinton Family has put a lot of emphasis on amassing wealth.

Clinton supporters embrace. Your Rich Fat Cats may push Clinton into the nomination but we will fight on against the corrupt culture.

going to be eye opening, I'm sure. We will fund Bernie's lawsuit(s). Calling it now.

50,000,000 Americans living in poverty.

16,000,000 children living in poverty

16,000,000 children living in low income homes

over 2.5 million children homeless

1.5 million Americans incarcerated with millions more felons on the street unable to get work.

But to some none of that matters as long as we have a Clinton Aristocracy where their wealth grows and grows. $150,000,000 and climbing.

Mammon: The greedy pursuit of wealth. And at the expense of those struggling among us.

Not a general.

Jesus, it's like it's everyone's first time in an election.

The one who is ahead in delegates and votes, that the one who will win.

...otherwise, this is just more bluster.