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rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:16 AM Apr 2016

Hillary Rodham Clinton is making HISTORY!!!!

She is the presumptive nominee, which is very historic. The first woman in the History of the United States to be a nominee for President!!! I am so proud to be a woman right now. Also before you say I only voted for her because she is a woman is not true. I voted for he because she has more qualifications than any of the primary candidates had this year.

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Hillary Rodham Clinton is making HISTORY!!!! (Original Post) rbrnmw Apr 2016 OP
Most excellent. oasis Apr 2016 #1
Yes! "It is past time for women to take their rightful place, Hortensis Apr 2016 #78
She would also be the first nominee under FBI investigation jfern Apr 2016 #2
I'm not even the least bit worried about the fantasy indictment rbrnmw Apr 2016 #6
It doesn't matter how often you say this, she is still not under investigation. randome Apr 2016 #25
Well, shit. I guess nobody told the President. Maybe you should call him and let him know. Matt_in_STL Apr 2016 #63
Look up Women Who Ran for President oldandhappy Apr 2016 #3
I said to be the Nominee not first to run rbrnmw Apr 2016 #4
sorry, I that it was fascinating history oldandhappy Apr 2016 #22
Yes I read it rbrnmw Apr 2016 #26
It is, indeed, and I'm proud of all of them. Hortensis Apr 2016 #76
Miss Leading! Baobab Apr 2016 #10
Victoria Woodhull was funded by a Vanderbilt. LisaM Apr 2016 #60
She will make history. The most disliked nominee ever. The highest mistrust of all other rhett o rick Apr 2016 #5
Lol~ sheshe2 Apr 2016 #7
Yes and investigated by the FBI. 840high Apr 2016 #8
Which she is not. Unless you know something the rest of us don't. randome Apr 2016 #27
Ok angrychair Apr 2016 #71
If there are ANY indictments the GOP wins the general AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #75
The most viciously smeared, deliberately mischaracterized, and flat-out lied about... pandr32 Apr 2016 #65
Herstory! Lucinda Apr 2016 #9
She hasn't yet. But she does have a history. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #11
Iraq, Honduras, Syria, Libya Kittycat Apr 2016 #12
First woman to lose a primary AND a general in different elections. Kentonio Apr 2016 #13
I doubt she loses to Trump lancer78 Apr 2016 #14
I doubt Trump will be the nominee. Kentonio Apr 2016 #15
He will be lancer78 Apr 2016 #16
No it doesn't matter what the media says, what matters is what the GOP leaders decide. Kentonio Apr 2016 #17
True lancer78 Apr 2016 #18
Then again there have been polls saying substantial parts of the Dem base wouldn't vote for Clinton Kentonio Apr 2016 #19
Imagine if lancer78 Apr 2016 #69
I'm a Bernie supporter but I believe it should go to whoever gets the most pledged delegates. Kentonio Apr 2016 #74
Why do you all keep saying that... all american girl Apr 2016 #42
I don't think Trump or Cruz will be the GOP nominee. Kentonio Apr 2016 #52
Ooooo, do tell. Do you think they will try and give it to Kasich? all american girl Apr 2016 #54
Kasich or someone else at the convention. Kentonio Apr 2016 #57
Enormous K & R. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #20
You're like a horse with blinders....n/t pantsonfire Apr 2016 #21
k&r bigtree Apr 2016 #23
Zero fucks given. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #24
Thanks for sharing eom...... rbrnmw Apr 2016 #29
What? You can't even give ONE? MineralMan Apr 2016 #36
Right there with you. (And I am a woman). djean111 Apr 2016 #37
I really really wish I could get excited about it. Of all the women. This one. sheesh. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #45
So many wonderful choices...and THIS is what we get?!? Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #47
I refuse to think about November. A lot can happen between time. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #51
Good point! Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #56
well, I am one of those "southern" states so, you know how that goes ... lol Hiraeth Apr 2016 #58
Agreed Amaril Apr 2016 #61
YES! auntpurl Apr 2016 #28
You have voted for perpetual war. VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #30
mmm hmmm rbrnmw Apr 2016 #31
hit.nail.head Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #48
Giving Berniebros a sad. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #32
She certainly is. n/t Orsino Apr 2016 #33
Oh, NOES! You wrote "presumptive!" MineralMan Apr 2016 #34
Oh My rbrnmw Apr 2016 #39
Tremendously qualified ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #35
So did George W Bush LadyHawkAZ Apr 2016 #38
In that respect ONLY, this IS great progress. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #40
Yes, she is!!!! Beacool Apr 2016 #41
That is so touching rbrnmw Apr 2016 #44
In the glass bubble that is DU, Hillary being nominated doesn't seem historical. Beacool Apr 2016 #46
My mom died in 2013 rbrnmw Apr 2016 #49
Same here....... Beacool Apr 2016 #50
aww rbrnmw Apr 2016 #68
I'm Ready for Hillary!!!! hamsterjill Apr 2016 #43
All hail her Royal Exalted Highness. Jester Messiah Apr 2016 #53
I dream Warren agree's to be VP Backwoodsrider Apr 2016 #55
Bernie Sanders is making HISTORY!!!! KPN Apr 2016 #59
Mis-leading? Or leading in money laundering? Or lies told? She sure is. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #62
^This^ GoneOffShore Apr 2016 #64
I agree, her being a woman is one good thing she has going for her. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #66
K&R ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #67
Another historical first is likely...spouses being impeached. libdem4life Apr 2016 #70
"First Jewish president is so wonderful" angrychair Apr 2016 #72
Have I ever said anything like that? rbrnmw Apr 2016 #73
I would have never expected such things here angrychair Apr 2016 #77
It's been a rough primary season rbrnmw Apr 2016 #79
Yes, she has HISTORIC lows, in likeability and trushworthiness. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #80
Go Hillary! workinclasszero Apr 2016 #81

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
78. Yes! "It is past time for women to take their rightful place,
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:07 PM
Apr 2016

side by side with men, in the rooms where the fates of peoples, where their children's and grandchildren's fates, are decided." - Hillary Clinton

I'm voting for her first because she shares most of my values and goals and is extremely competent, the usual, critical reasons, but that she has already advanced women this far and will finally bring us to the Oval Office are giant steps toward our most important goal of all -- equality of all Americans. We are witnessing and participating in a great advance for all of us now and for the future.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
2. She would also be the first nominee under FBI investigation
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:21 AM
Apr 2016

It's really about time that everyone under investigation got someone to be a trailblazer for them.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
25. It doesn't matter how often you say this, she is still not under investigation.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:32 AM
Apr 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
3. Look up Women Who Ran for President
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:21 AM
Apr 2016

It is history every time! Look up Women Who Ran for President -- impressive. Hillary will be the first to win.

Who was the first woman to run for president?

What woman ran for US president first? And which women have run since?
73208640.jpg - Kean Collection/Hulton Archive/Getty Images
American feminist politician and radical Victoria Claflin Woodhull and her sister Tennessee Claflin attempt to assert their right to vote in New York and are denied, circa 1875. Kean Collection/Hulton Archive/Getty Images
Victoria Woodhull
Equal Rights Party: 1872
Humanitarian Party: 1892

Victoria Woodhull was the first woman to run for president in the United States. Frederick Douglass was nominated as Vice President, but there's no record that he accepted. Woodhull was also known for her radicalism as a woman suffrage activist and her role in a sex scandal involving noted preacher of the time, Henry Ward Beecher. More »

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
60. Victoria Woodhull was funded by a Vanderbilt.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:40 AM
Apr 2016

Last edited Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:12 PM - Edit history (1)

I was just reading a biography of her; she was interesting. She also earned money as a financial advisor.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
5. She will make history. The most disliked nominee ever. The highest mistrust of all other
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:26 AM
Apr 2016

candidates.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
27. Which she is not. Unless you know something the rest of us don't.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:33 AM
Apr 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
71. Ok
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:35 PM
Apr 2016

7-9 FBI agents. HRC has brought her criminal defense attorney up. Comey and the Justice dept have referred to it as an investigation, not a review.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
75. If there are ANY indictments the GOP wins the general
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:44 PM
Apr 2016

How did we get into such a stupid situation?

pandr32

(11,586 posts)
65. The most viciously smeared, deliberately mischaracterized, and flat-out lied about...
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:05 PM
Apr 2016

...for the political ambitions of others.

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
12. Iraq, Honduras, Syria, Libya
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:02 AM
Apr 2016

Arms deals, Fracking Deals, Coal mining Deals, Water Resources Deals, Haitian Hotel Deals for donors, Low Wage Workers. Of course a lot of innocent people had to die during those wars and regime changes - probably in those sweat shops too, but I guess that's just part of contract.

These are just some of her many "accomplishments" that she worked hard on as secretary of state and proxy with Bill to the Clinton Foundation. I'd take the time to put up some more, but I am just so tired. Long day here, and I have a busy one tomorrow. Interesting things for you to be so proud of as a Democrat.

Anyway, she isn't the presumptive nominee yet. Not until she has earned the pledged delegates to claim that right. She had some trouble with that It's okay though. Bernie has agreed to take it to the convention, so they can work it out there. It should be a great night to watch.

Have a great evening. Later.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
16. He will be
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 04:37 AM
Apr 2016

if he gets within 100 pledged delegates of 1237. It doesn't matter what the morons in the MSM say.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
18. True
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:07 AM
Apr 2016

But as I posted earlier on another thread, denying Trump the nomination if he is that close will cost the Nominee 8 million votes.

There was a poll that said that 16% of Republican voters would not vote for the Nominee if the Nominee had not won the pledged delegate count during the primary. Sixteen percent of 50 million is 8 million.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
19. Then again there have been polls saying substantial parts of the Dem base wouldn't vote for Clinton
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:31 AM
Apr 2016

I think those kind of polls are untrustworthy this far out. Both sides would suffer losses to their vote totals if its Clinton vs NotTrump, but I can see the Republicans coalescing around a different candidate if they can find one that ticks enough boxes in enough different camps. It's the nightmare scenario for us if that happens, the only thing that makes Hillary viable right now is the belief that the Republicans will run someone with even worse favorables. That scares me.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
69. Imagine if
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:23 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie came just short of 100 pledged delegates to win the nomination, but the supers gave it to Clinton instead. DU would explode in rage and would probably cease to exist as 85% of people here are Sanders supporters.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
74. I'm a Bernie supporter but I believe it should go to whoever gets the most pledged delegates.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:43 PM
Apr 2016

Anything else would be undemocratic. The only exception to that would be if one of the candidates had to fall out of the race for whatever reason.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
42. Why do you all keep saying that...
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:15 AM
Apr 2016

Let's see, hasn't pretty much pissed off every known group expect white males? You think all those people are going to run to him?

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
54. Ooooo, do tell. Do you think they will try and give it to Kasich?
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:32 AM
Apr 2016

If Trump go more delegates, and they give it to someone else, I think there would be a mass revolt. But who knows.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
57. Kasich or someone else at the convention.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:36 AM
Apr 2016

I think there will be an initial revolt, but I also think they want to win. After 8 years of a Democratic White House I just can't see the party top brass casually allowing a candidate they know can't win.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
24. Zero fucks given.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:31 AM
Apr 2016

As a woman and lifelong feminist, I could give a damn if there's a major-party woman nominee...when said nominee is a corporatist DINO of dubious integrity.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
37. Right there with you. (And I am a woman).
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:49 AM
Apr 2016

Gender is not on my list of what I am looking for as a president. Hillary is just another politician whose policies and issues and past performance and deeds I do not like one little bit.

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
61. Agreed
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:50 AM
Apr 2016

Also a woman and lifelong feminist, and much as I would love to be excited about the prospect of a female POTUS, I just can't get excited about this one.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
30. You have voted for perpetual war.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:38 AM
Apr 2016

For the continued corporate screwing of the low and middle classes via voting for a candidate who doesn't seem to want to restore Glass-Steagall.
For the continued corporate screwing of the earth via fracking and inefficient fossil fuels.
For the continued corporate screwing of the workforce via H-1B visas and the TPP.
For the continued corporate screwing of the entertainment business via voting for a candidate who doesn't seem to care that the media is monopolized by six companies.
For the continued alphabet soup agency screwing of we the people by voting for a candidate who supported SOPA, the PATRIOT Act, and has spoken outright on "needing a Manhattan Project against personal encryption".

I believe your vote to be unethical. It doesn't matter whether you know better or not anymore. To me, your vote appears callous and uncaring.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
48. hit.nail.head
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:24 AM
Apr 2016

Anyone who thinks that symbolism overrides the matters you list (and many more), isn't someone whose opinion (or thought process) I can remotely respect.

Beacool

(30,249 posts)
41. Yes, she is!!!!
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:11 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary has a long list of "firsts", but none tops being the first woman to be nominated by a major party. Hopefully, she'll break the final glass ceiling and become our first woman president.







Here's to all the sisters who came before, from Abigail Adams, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Lucretia Mott, Susan B. Anthony to Betty Friedan, Gloria Steinem and every woman who fought for women's rights, including my mother.

This one is for all of you.



Beacool

(30,249 posts)
46. In the glass bubble that is DU, Hillary being nominated doesn't seem historical.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:22 AM
Apr 2016

In the real world it's a huge step for our country. One of the few world powers to have never had a woman in the top job. In 2008 my mother voted for Hillary in the Florida primary. She died unexpectedly in 2009.

I will vote this year for Hillary in her honor.



KPN

(15,646 posts)
59. Bernie Sanders is making HISTORY!!!!
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:39 AM
Apr 2016

Can we please hold the celebration either oin the Hillary Group or until HRC has actuall been nominated?

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
66. I agree, her being a woman is one good thing she has going for her.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:12 PM
Apr 2016

It is historic.

She still has bad decision making amd leadership skills however.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
70. Another historical first is likely...spouses being impeached.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:27 PM
Apr 2016

It will potentially end up like Bill's...keeping the presidency while under the cloud.

She is a seriously flawed candidate. I'm sure the papers are already drawn up for maybe Day 2, if she accedes to the office.

Also, not my choice for the first woman president or Democratic nominee. What message are the young women getting...marry well, carpet bag into a Big State, get appointed somehow to SOS, start a Big Foundation, figure out how to get rich in office, and you, too, can earn $300,000 per speech. Oh, and don't worry about silly ethics or even laws with workarounds. Just hire the right people to do it for you.

See? It's simple. The message to young women...I did, it, and so can you.

Voila...there goes the glass ceiling, while raining glass on those further down the rungs.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
72. "First Jewish president is so wonderful"
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:38 PM
Apr 2016

Would not be a phrase that many on here would ever say given the comments, slander and anti Semitic and neo-Nazi hate sites used here on DU.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
77. I would have never expected such things here
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:07 PM
Apr 2016

None the less, they happen far to frequently.
It's hard to celebrate the accomplishments of others when Clinton supporters here have lived up to their 2008 reputation and exceeded it.
If she wins and takes office it would be a mile stone for women but how you get there is as important as who.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
79. It's been a rough primary season
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:17 PM
Apr 2016

I am sorry that it was that way. We are all Democrats in this together. We can disagree without all the vitriol.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
80. Yes, she has HISTORIC lows, in likeability and trushworthiness.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 02:24 PM
Apr 2016

You go girl.




And candidates with that low number don't win. Oops!


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