And of course, I'm glad he said what he did.

He is a patient man, and he takes the long view...unlike some of our members.

So in this household, we are still in primary season!




and just as I find adblockers useful on the web, I find "ignore" well serving the same purpose here!

...on ignore.

Apparently, it makes you less of a person and you're not allowed to learn how to debate or grow as a person when you do that.

I'm thinking of writing a book and wanted to ask you if I could pick your brain off-DU some time about the entire experience. Would that be ok?

...my thoughts/questions.

Again, thanks so much!

now I must head for bed - exhausting day (but a good one!)

I've left just enough of them to avoid being in an echo chamber, but there's a threshold where ZAP, they're gone.

When people are abusive, there is zero reason to keep making yourself available for their abuse.

Will now be my new rally cry!

Some people on this site have been in serious decline. I wish I knew what triggers that kind of thing. I know the issues that do it for me, but obviously it's gonna be different for everyone.

Everyone knows where this is going, everyone understands what is at stake in the general election. It'll all be fine.

So, we'll continue the primary discussion, thanks. And let's try to stick with where we are, not where we may be going.

Obviously, we are going to the convention. Sanders is in it at least that far. Major goal should be overhaul of primary process and changes to the platform.

That is, if he doesn't win outright.

our authoritarian leader." Hey BB, we are in for the fight. We will some day throw out of our government the corruption that you seem to relish. We are fighting for the 99% and you are fighting for the status quo.

This could be sad for Senator Sanders.

As is your relevance...

(six of one, half a dozen of the other... each as petulant and useless as the other)

... generate traffic (which equals revenue), there will be no nominee declared on DU.

I fully expect that Tad Devine will still be collecting donations right up to election night in November, insisting that Bernie still has a shot at the nomination. I also fully expect that DU will continue in "the primary is still ongoing" mode until then as well.

...motive accusation, btw!

BTW, Skinner is a business man and generating traffic is a prime concern.

Why do you think he ditched the suspension rules? Too many Sanders supporters abused the Jury System and traffic was probably way down.

And I hope he thinks long and hard about whether he wants a website that encourages a Leftwing Tea Bag party.

The primary season will be well and truly over once someone (most likely Hillary) gets enough delegates to claim the nomination.

Skinner will then declare that primary season is over.

... which is why I said what I said.

Skinner acknowledged months ago that 85% of DUers are Bernie supporters -- and he's not about to risk losing that much traffic.

Do you think that if things were reversed, and Bernie was ahead by as many votes and delegates as Hillary is right now, Skinner would hesitate to declare the primary contest a done deal?

I believe he has said that we won't have a nominee until one of the candidates has the requisite number of delegates.

I believe him.

It's been over since SuperTuesday. And now, after NY, it's even more obviously over than it already was.

Bernie has NO path to the nomination - and Skinner knows that. But he's not about to piss off 85% of the people who post here. They represent the traffic that generates the site's revenue, and they will be coddled to the last possible moment as a result.

he is waiting for the convention like everyone else, like Hillary herself did last time.

Which is honorable. I expect Sanders to do the same.

I merely pointed out the obvious: With 85% of the posters here being BSers, Skinner is not about to do anything that will piss them off.

Do you think that if Bernie's and HRC's positions were reversed votes/delegates-wise, Skinner would have any problem "calling it" for Bernie?

Traffic, traffic - uber alles!

It's not only star members, but also the percentage of DU posts relative to this primary. The day Skinner declares HRC the winner, this place becomes a mere shadow of its former self - losing much of the 85% of members who oppose Hillary and support Bernie. Yeah, yeah, some unknown portion of Bernie supporters will hold their nose and vote for her if she's the candidate.

But, think about it! Awfully unpleasant and difficult to post while holding your nose! They may show up at the polls, but they won't show up at DU.

He has lost. I can only hope by next week he will come to his senses and start considering the general...she is the nominee...he has no path.

That's the math. So if Bernie lost as you say, why hasn't she won?

is that I believe Hillary will only do what is best for Hillary, the Third Way, the MIC, Wall Street, and corporations. I see no path for me to support her.

I believe Hillary's idea of "the country" is a lot smaller than one would think, if one is a supporter. Her country is the 1%. Maybe even less than that.

resign & enjoy all the money they've gotten peddling influence, or be upfront & change their party association to (R) which is more in line with their true positions.

that if Bernie had as much support as you claim, he would have won the primary.

by the fact that a democratic socialist balding Jew from Vermont could be holding up her coronation with such glee.

People who know how US politics work are aghast. Sanders ran AGAINST the entire established order and now the Clinton people are hoping he'll somehow just decide to quit because he can't achieve the straight forward, clean victory he hoped for. So now HE will try and manipulate the "SuperDuperDelegates" to give him a margin of victory.

These are the same SuperDupers put into place to prevent something like the Sanders campaign from gaining any traction in the first place. Now they provide a major weakness that Sanders can use to have a shot at the nomination.

Will Hillary have enough elected delegates to win outright? Seems like it isn't as cut and dried as our Hillary fans would like it to be. Maybe she should. Certainly, if she was a strong candidate she would.

Yet, the little guy from the NorthEast has put the lie to the "inevitable" claim despite her having the official support of EVERYBODY you can point a finger at.

Doesn't that tell you folks anything?

that there are MANY Democrats who just don't like the Clintons. Hillary Clinton reminds me of Martha Coakley (Lost MA Governor to a Republican a couple years ago). She felt that she was entitled to the office, just like I think Clinton feels like she is entitled to this nomination. I will vote for her over any Republican, but something about that whole family rubs me the wrong way. I wish I didn't feel this way, because i would rather vote for someone I really liked (Like Joe Biden).

I mean, have you ever known anyone who you respect and like, but wouldn't want to spend any time with them (Like at a sit-down dinner)?

very much...how republican of you guys.

Way too many things that can happen between now and the convention. I know the Clinton supporters think the FBI investigation is BS, but there MIGHT be something up with that. I really hope not as charges against Clinton would damage Sanders as well.

He is not involved.

makes all democrats look bad. Guilt by association, while not right, is something that occurs.

I'll foregoe the rofl, but I'm thinking it.

Thanks for the post, and thanks to Skinner for keeping the convo open (not like some other site).

in regards to GD P, that is the message.

on Sanders.