Other than that, good list.

He has a great life story.

BTW, I saw him on MSNBC and his contempt for Trump was powerful and he expressed it well.

said he's not interested.

pretty adamant when he said it.

LisaM mentioned him a couple of days ago. Washington state, anti death penalty, strong energy chops, and has worked with all three branches of federal government, in addition to being the current Gov. Plus I like his caucus work hen he was in congress:

Congressional Friends of Animals Caucus
Congressional Internet Caucus
House Medicare and Medicaid Fairness Caucus
House Oceans Caucus
United States Congressional International Conservation Caucus
Congressional Arts Caucus


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Inslee

I'm sitting here going Brown or Booker? Can't choose.

1) Just under 6 out of 10 people don't like her, find her untrustworthy, or to be a liar.

2) Millennials don't think she's any better than the Republicans. They also aren't connected to the party.

3) Bernie supporters, Democrats or not, don't like Hillary. She may get most to vote for her against Trump, but most isn't good enough. She will need all of them.

4) Independents don't like her. They prefer Trump or Bernie.

5) Republicans desperately want to be in the WH again. They will hold their nose and vote for Trump or Cruz over Hillary. It's not even close.

6) She doesn't inspire or create enthusiasm ... compare to Bernie and Obama, or even Trump.

7) She doesn't offer any plan or message for the future. Obama had one of hope and change, and Bernie has one of economic equality.

8) She's part of the establishment. That's not a good place to be in 2016.

9) Much of her message is to be the status-quo President that will continue Obama's Presidency. Not very inspiring when all Republicans, almost all Independents, and quite a few Democrats want big change now.

10) She's not a very good candidate. She keeps things (speeches, etc.) from the public that make her look like she's hiding something. Her and Bill get unnecessarily angry when confronted. And, she changes so many positions on issues that it's hard for people to figure out what she really believes.

and Trump's negatives are TWICE as bad as Clinton.

And, only a fool would think that the Republicans are just going to give this to the Democrats.

Outside of Obama, they've been kicking our ass for years. And, Hillary is no Obama.

I'm not talking about everywhere else.

That's because Republicans skew more affluent and educated and the more affluent and educated you are the more vested in the system you are and consequently more likely to vote. Many of our voters need more motivation. The irony is your local councilperson has as much effect on your life as the president. Intellectually that makes sense. Emotionally it doesn't.

Yet she has a mind numbing 73% chance of winning at the predictions markets:


http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-winner#Link3


and is a remarkable 1-3 favorite at the offshore betting markets:


http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/winner



I think I will go with the wisdom of the crowds and not the wisdom of a value laden poster with an axe to grind. Talk is cheap. I'm not a high flyer like you. Remember, we know each other from this board and had cordial relations before you went over to the dark side, so lets make a small wager with the loser donating $100.00 to the charity of the winner's choice. To prove I'm not fronting we can find a member of this board with a pay pal account to hold the money in escrow until after Secretary Clinton wins the general election.

We can do it this morning.

DemocratSinceBirth
And Always Real

I've been consistently on the left for 40 years. It's the Democratic party, Hillary's party, that left me years ago.

Elections are about mutually exclusive choices. If I have $5.00 to spend on dinner and have to choose between Wendys and Ruth' Chris I am of necessity choosing the former.

We can do much better.

But, that's irrelevant. She will not win.

She will work Drumpf like a mule. Every bully meets his match.

I'll give you this, though. She MIGHT be able to beat Trump. He's pretty bad. But it will be close and it's only because he's the worse possible candidate.

If the Republicans are actually stupid enough to go with him (which I don't think they will), she will be the luckiest Presidential candidate in the history of the United States.

And dont use what percentage of independents they each got in the primary. That's not a real answer

And, most independents that support Bernie don't see her as any better than Trump. They will not vote for either.

Not proof, but it's a pretty good guess.

Also, do you believe Bernie has a better chance of winning in the fall? If so, what tells you that?

1) Bernie is the only candidate left with a high favorability rating (Trump -33.4, Cruz -20.6, Hillary -16.9, Bernie +8.9)

2) Millennials will come out in droves to vote for Bernie.

3) Bernie is very popular with independents, and even some Republicans.

4) He creates enthusiasm (rallies, contributions, etc.).

5) He offers a populist message for the future...economic equality.

6) He's not seen as part of the establishment, status-quo, etc.

7) He's a pretty good candidate. He went from 4% when he started to 48% in head to head polling in the primaries.

8) He has very few negatives. There's not a lot of dirt on him, and the "dirt" that is out there is already well-known ("socialist", "raising taxes", etc.).

nm

I was answering a direct question from another DUer.

She isca guaranteed loss for democrats.

Or Mittens.

She wouldn't win the GE anyway.

Thank you in advance.

Coalition-building, ya know?

Smart, experienced, tough and just enough "street" to take on whomever Trump picks for his running mate.

Pulls PA and OH too.

doubt they'll go with someone that old.

But on point for obedience. As I scrolled down the comments I was thinking the vp pick has to be someone obedient. clinton cannot cope with anyone who would ask her hard questions.

and not in jail,

her VP choice had better be a flaming-red mouth-breathing stark-raving liberal commie
whom Hillary would normally find unacceptable,

and whom would call her out on her neoconservative fascist tendencies in Central America
and elsewhere-- since she can't seem to tell the difference between the foreign policies of Ronald Reagan/George W. Bush and a "real progressive" foreign policy, and her vaunted "foreign policy experience" is a stinking pile of neoconservative-fascist shit.

She was with the Sanders camp which could bring many of them to vote for Hillary, plus, she's a passionate, powerful speaker who can help on the campaign trail.

I can can almost hear her now going after Trump.

What are the benefits/potential challenges of a two-woman ticket, in theory?

I think your point is well taken. Two women probably won't fly.

because the qualifications of a person don't rely on his/her gender; however, I agree, the optics aren't quite right, not for 2016. Which is a shame. It'll be amazing when we get there, though! And we might be wrong - it could be that the person is more important than his/her gender to voters.

#goldwomansachs

Kissinger and Blankfein are testifying to everything I don't like about Sanders supporters. If you are not interested in the thread topic, then please leave. We shouldn't have to suffer such fools.

That's a big consideration for me.

I've heard people say they're not thrilled with his level of experience, but then Obama wasn't all that experienced on the national stage and he learned on the job. I'm more comfortable with a VP doing that on-the-job training than a Pres.

Edited to add: also he doesn't take any Dem Senators or Governors away.

He's going to roll a chair right up along side of the desk in the Oval Office. He's going to then pull out a ledger from the Clinton Foundation and get to work paying people back.

Sure, they may parade Julian Castro around but Bill will be in the office.

at least in Washington it's likely he'll be replaced by another Dem. Inslee's not young, though. I'd like someone young enough to run in 8 years.

I'd also like to see someone of color on the ticket, but with so much work to do, I have been primarily looking at experience in one of the big issues that Hillary has said would be a major early focus of her administration.

Obviously it would help with votes, but more so because they are the fastest-growing demographic in the country and it's about time they had some representation at the executive level.

Agree with you re: the issues and having someone with both deep and broad experience, someone who's a "safe pair of hands" would be nice. Might help with older voters who are slightly nervous with a woman on the ticket (idiotic, but probably reality).

But that may not bother Hillary.
And your point about some skittish about a woman heading the ticket makes sense in terms of the Veep age.
There are a lot of variables at play! I am really looking forward to seeing who she chooses!

I trust her to make the right choice.

She is brilliant.

I'm not that familiar with him, but he's a name I have heard was on her short list.

California is his home now, I think, so he brings nothing to the ticket geographically. If his progressive credentials are indeed strong, that coupled with his Latino heritage do help him as a possible VP choice.

And yet they see the need to register with DU and login first as an infringement on their rights.

I also encourage them to start a similar poll for their candidate if they want.

All the ones I know look great. I'll go with whomever Hillary chooses.

i like Castro a lot for VP. sherrod is boring and apparently people need excitement to fulfill their civic responsibilities.